Anonymous
01/29/2022 05:47
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Why didn’t Mirabel have a gift? It wasn’t explained enough.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 11:07
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?
She did not. My wife thinks, and I agree, that the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because Mirabel is going to be like Abuela, and is the next generation of leader for the family, the one who “runs the show”. The same way Abuela led them to safety, Mirabel led them to their new home (emotional safety).
I think that the magic door “reads” the person’s personality and decides what the gift is going to be (that’s why the door is all squiggly and undefined before they touch it). When Mirabel touched the door knob it “read” her and saw that she was going to be the new leader and so didn’t give her a gift. Her gift, which was already inside her, was the ability to lead the family.
Love this read, makes perfect sense!
I was thinking something similar, like the house/family needed her to not have an all-consuming gift so that she would be the one who "sees" ("mira" in Spanish) what needs to be done to keep the family and village from fracturing, ultimately bringing them closer together.
+1
Her gift seemed to be that the house heard or listened to her more than other family members. Also some of the other gifts weren’t really that useful- the flower thing is pretty but not particularly practical and shape shifting is really useful in X-Men but goes to waste in this small village. But I digress.
Agree that her gift in many ways was the casita. Being in tune with it in a way none of the others were. I disagree on Isabella's gift though. When she grows and her powers with it she becomes someone who can grow ANYTHING. And I imagine a small village would greatly benefit from a person who can make any valuable or food bearing or protective plant spring from the ground instantaneously.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 10:56
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the point of the shape shifting cousin? I don’t feel like he added anything to the story.
The sketchbook had many more characters and family members as well. It got too much and even as it stands now it was very many “main” characters to try to develop. They certainly focused on a few and let songs color in others and the family overall.
I found the pacing slow for the first third, then suddenly the perfect girl song quickly changed things and then Abuela telling off maribel and vice versa, then a big Coming to Jesus and humbling house rebuild over weeks (but 1 minute).
Where can I find the sketchbook that your reference? It would be fun to watch.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 20:48
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?
She did not. My wife thinks, and I agree, that the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because Mirabel is going to be like Abuela, and is the next generation of leader for the family, the one who “runs the show”. The same way Abuela led them to safety, Mirabel led them to their new home (emotional safety).
I think that the magic door “reads” the person’s personality and decides what the gift is going to be (that’s why the door is all squiggly and undefined before they touch it). When Mirabel touched the door knob it “read” her and saw that she was going to be the new leader and so didn’t give her a gift. Her gift, which was already inside her, was the ability to lead the family.
Love this read, makes perfect sense!
I was thinking something similar, like the house/family needed her to not have an all-consuming gift so that she would be the one who "sees" ("mira" in Spanish) what needs to be done to keep the family and village from fracturing, ultimately bringing them closer together.
+1
Her gift seemed to be that the house heard or listened to her more than other family members. Also some of the other gifts weren’t really that useful- the flower thing is pretty but not particularly practical and shape shifting is really useful in X-Men but goes to waste in this small village. But I digress.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 19:51
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?
She did not. My wife thinks, and I agree, that the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because Mirabel is going to be like Abuela, and is the next generation of leader for the family, the one who “runs the show”. The same way Abuela led them to safety, Mirabel led them to their new home (emotional safety).
I think that the magic door “reads” the person’s personality and decides what the gift is going to be (that’s why the door is all squiggly and undefined before they touch it). When Mirabel touched the door knob it “read” her and saw that she was going to be the new leader and so didn’t give her a gift. Her gift, which was already inside her, was the ability to lead the family.
Love this read, makes perfect sense!
I was thinking something similar, like the house/family needed her to not have an all-consuming gift so that she would be the one who "sees" ("mira" in Spanish) what needs to be done to keep the family and village from fracturing, ultimately bringing them closer together.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 19:29
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?
She did not. My wife thinks, and I agree, that the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because Mirabel is going to be like Abuela, and is the next generation of leader for the family, the one who “runs the show”. The same way Abuela led them to safety, Mirabel led them to their new home (emotional safety).
I think that the magic door “reads” the person’s personality and decides what the gift is going to be (that’s why the door is all squiggly and undefined before they touch it). When Mirabel touched the door knob it “read” her and saw that she was going to be the new leader and so didn’t give her a gift. Her gift, which was already inside her, was the ability to lead the family.
Love this read, makes perfect sense!
+1 I really enjoyed the movie and watched it with my son and again by myself.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 18:56
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that there is so much debate and so many interpretations proves that the movie was convoluted. We are all left wondering “huh?”
…because all good movies have a single straightforward interpretation? Okay then.
The plot was simple but the meaning is complex and open to discussion. That’s what makes it such a good movie, and why a bunch of presumed adults are all enjoying discussing it. A real jewel for Disney’s crown.
Ugh. Disney movie fans are insufferable.
Thank you for your valuable input, which will be given all the consideration it is due.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 18:37
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that there is so much debate and so many interpretations proves that the movie was convoluted. We are all left wondering “huh?”
…because all good movies have a single straightforward interpretation? Okay then.
The plot was simple but the meaning is complex and open to discussion. That’s what makes it such a good movie, and why a bunch of presumed adults are all enjoying discussing it. A real jewel for Disney’s crown.
Ugh. Disney movie fans are insufferable.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 17:13
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Meant slow for the first two thirds!
Anonymous
01/26/2022 17:12
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:What was the point of the shape shifting cousin? I don’t feel like he added anything to the story.
The sketchbook had many more characters and family members as well. It got too much and even as it stands now it was very many “main” characters to try to develop. They certainly focused on a few and let songs color in others and the family overall.
I found the pacing slow for the first third, then suddenly the perfect girl song quickly changed things and then Abuela telling off maribel and vice versa, then a big Coming to Jesus and humbling house rebuild over weeks (but 1 minute).
Anonymous
01/26/2022 12:31
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?
She did not. My wife thinks, and I agree, that the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because Mirabel is going to be like Abuela, and is the next generation of leader for the family, the one who “runs the show”. The same way Abuela led them to safety, Mirabel led them to their new home (emotional safety).
I think that the magic door “reads” the person’s personality and decides what the gift is going to be (that’s why the door is all squiggly and undefined before they touch it). When Mirabel touched the door knob it “read” her and saw that she was going to be the new leader and so didn’t give her a gift. Her gift, which was already inside her, was the ability to lead the family.
🤯
Anonymous
01/26/2022 12:28
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?
She did not. My wife thinks, and I agree, that the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because Mirabel is going to be like Abuela, and is the next generation of leader for the family, the one who “runs the show”. The same way Abuela led them to safety, Mirabel led them to their new home (emotional safety).
I think that the magic door “reads” the person’s personality and decides what the gift is going to be (that’s why the door is all squiggly and undefined before they touch it). When Mirabel touched the door knob it “read” her and saw that she was going to be the new leader and so didn’t give her a gift. Her gift, which was already inside her, was the ability to lead the family.
Love this read, makes perfect sense!
Anonymous
01/26/2022 12:13
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:The grandmother didn’t have any powers, did she?
She did not. My wife thinks, and I agree, that the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because Mirabel is going to be like Abuela, and is the next generation of leader for the family, the one who “runs the show”. The same way Abuela led them to safety, Mirabel led them to their new home (emotional safety).
I think that the magic door “reads” the person’s personality and decides what the gift is going to be (that’s why the door is all squiggly and undefined before they touch it). When Mirabel touched the door knob it “read” her and saw that she was going to be the new leader and so didn’t give her a gift. Her gift, which was already inside her, was the ability to lead the family.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 12:08
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Anonymous wrote:What was the point of the shape shifting cousin? I don’t feel like he added anything to the story.
yes he definitely should’ve been left on the cutting room floor! I almost got the sense that they wanted to take the character out and then realized they couldn’t at the last minute. He has a couple of lines establishing that he’s an annoying teenager, but other than that he doesn’t add to the story at all. They had to do it all over they’d axe his character.
Anonymous
01/26/2022 11:30
Subject: Is there no Encanto thread?!
Love the Luisa character and the fact that she is actually the middle child although many people assume she’s the oldest.