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Anonymous wrote:Is this really a shock? That 18 months of virtual schooling would put kids at a disadvantage long term?
Congrats to those not struggling. Have they learned anything? Or are they simply not struggling with what is currently being asked of them?

I'm the PP with the 6th grader, upthread. She absolutely learned, and learned a lot. Her 4th grade teachers were exceptional, and although their directive was to not teach new material, they did, in the hour or so they had with the kids daily. 5th grade teachers were very good as well, so DL was not terrible.

Where my kid is struggling this year, is with the small things. Remembering not to talk/be disruptive in class (especially difficult since they have SO much to share), how to stay organized, how to take notes by hand, how to deal with kids that aren't exactly nice, that sort of thing.

I posted above about my kids who are doing ok too. If there is one area where they are struggling, it's with fatigue after the day. They spent so much time locked up at home that to be at school at day with people and being "on" and having extracurriculars (which they really wanted to do again), that they are overstimulated and just spent at the end of the day. It's been a long time since we had this much activity.

Same- my third grader is having trouble with fatigue and not being used to not having a lot of down time since he has sports and then its homework, dinner, bed. But he did learn last year because his teacher did amazing teaching virtually. My first grader is another story- he is currently learning both kindergarten and first grade material at once and lost all the playing etc that happens in a K classroom. Theyve definitely been effected in different ways. My current first grader I feel lost a year, my third grader just needs time to adjust.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Yeah, definitely the parents’ fault that young kids are having trouble with behaving appropriately in a classroom setting after being deprived of one for 18 months.

These kids are having trouble behaving in every setting including at home. Parents sometimes bring in their kids for conferences and then you can see who rules the roost at home (hint: it's not the parents).

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Anonymous wrote:Is this really a shock? That 18 months of virtual schooling would put kids at a disadvantage long term?
Congrats to those not struggling. Have they learned anything? Or are they simply not struggling with what is currently being asked of them?

I'm the PP with the 6th grader, upthread. She absolutely learned, and learned a lot. Her 4th grade teachers were exceptional, and although their directive was to not teach new material, they did, in the hour or so they had with the kids daily. 5th grade teachers were very good as well, so DL was not terrible.

Where my kid is struggling this year, is with the small things. Remembering not to talk/be disruptive in class (especially difficult since they have SO much to share), how to stay organized, how to take notes by hand, how to deal with kids that aren't exactly nice, that sort of thing.

I posted above about my kids who are doing ok too. If there is one area where they are struggling, it's with fatigue after the day. They spent so much time locked up at home that to be at school at day with people and being "on" and having extracurriculars (which they really wanted to do again), that they are overstimulated and just spent at the end of the day. It's been a long time since we had this much activity.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this really a shock? That 18 months of virtual schooling would put kids at a disadvantage long term?
Congrats to those not struggling. Have they learned anything? Or are they simply not struggling with what is currently being asked of them?

I'm the PP with the 6th grader, upthread. She absolutely learned, and learned a lot. Her 4th grade teachers were exceptional, and although their directive was to not teach new material, they did, in the hour or so they had with the kids daily. 5th grade teachers were very good as well, so DL was not terrible.

Where my kid is struggling this year, is with the small things. Remembering not to talk/be disruptive in class (especially difficult since they have SO much to share), how to stay organized, how to take notes by hand, how to deal with kids that aren't exactly nice, that sort of thing.

DP. I have a 3rd and 6th grader. Academically, they're fine. But socially and behaviorally, they are way behind. Like PP, they seem to have forgotten how to be at school, how to be students, cand how to be in a group.

Anonymous wrote:Is this really a shock? That 18 months of virtual schooling would put kids at a disadvantage long term?
Congrats to those not struggling. Have they learned anything? Or are they simply not struggling with what is currently being asked of them?

I'm the PP with the 6th grader, upthread. She absolutely learned, and learned a lot. Her 4th grade teachers were exceptional, and although their directive was to not teach new material, they did, in the hour or so they had with the kids daily. 5th grade teachers were very good as well, so DL was not terrible.

Where my kid is struggling this year, is with the small things. Remembering not to talk/be disruptive in class (especially difficult since they have SO much to share), how to stay organized, how to take notes by hand, how to deal with kids that aren't exactly nice, that sort of thing.

This is what my sister has told us about her class of second graders.

She said they are behind and most should be repeating 1st grade.

Is this really a shock? That 18 months of virtual schooling would put kids at a disadvantage long term?
Congrats to those not struggling. Have they learned anything? Or are they simply not struggling with what is currently being asked of them?

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Anonymous wrote:A friend who is teaching second grade in an all FARMS school (her first year there after relocating) described her class as feral—they just didn’t do school last year.

If your friend is calling kids names, then she shouldn’t be a teacher. Go work at Walmart, they’re hiring.

That’s not name calling. It’s descriptive. Look it up in a dictionary, maybe you’ll learn something.

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

I would like to know how many kids are having the same experience as PP's kid. (My kids are not.) I would also like to know more about those who are struggling. We all have theories. Some hard data is needed. As much as the teachers complain about standardized testing, I hope that this will shed some light on this question.

My kids are not struggling -- it's a combination of privileged circumstances (parents who can work from home), their personalities, their teachers' efforts, and just some damn luck. I don't think I am a better parent than anyone else. Really, there by the grace of God go I. I often wanted to cry last year and I am completely exhausted. I did drop the ball many times during their remote schooling and they spent too much time on screens and eating junk food. Much of the reason why my kids weren't that affected is that they were privileged to begin with -- if they were in any way behind, they would have fallen more behind.

I cannot believe the lack of empathy being shown to parents here whose kids are struggling. Maybe it explains a lot about our society now.

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Anonymous wrote:Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

I would like to know how many kids are having the same experience as PP's kid. (My kids are not.) I would also like to know more about those who are struggling. We all have theories. Some hard data is needed. As much as the teachers complain about standardized testing, I hope that this will shed some light on this question.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

Yeah, definitely the parents’ fault that young kids are having trouble with behaving appropriately in a classroom setting after being deprived of one for 18 months.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

Yeah. Its sad when the discipline of the children is left up to the parents for 18 months, and this is the result. Previous generations of parents at least had behavioral expectations for their kids, and would have been upset at the child if they misbehaved at school, rather than blame the school.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

My 6th grade DD is 100% fine academically as well. It's been a rough transition for the whole school behaviorally, per the principal.

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Anonymous wrote:The first graders are going to be fine. Yes, last year sucked but catching up K and 1st grade work isn’t going to be a big problem. I’m thankful I didn’t have an older child that was missing more advanced classes.

-parent of a 1st grader

The older kids are fine. Their teachers actually taught their full curriculum last year. And they already know how to function in a school environment.

Lmao! No one taught or learned the “full curriculum” last year, and no one learned anything for the last 1/3rd of 2020. No grade is fine.

My 8th grader is 100% fine, not behind, not struggling.

Fewer than. It’s early… 😀