Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 14:40     Subject: Re:FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:You meant to say Frederick County.


Now that's funny! Not much of an inside joke at this point anymore.....
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 14:22     Subject: Re:FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming things look roughly the same in rankings next year this is how FCV GA teams will look like:

05 - 3rd
06 - 2nd
07 - 2nd
08 - 4th
09 - 13th
10 - 15th
11 - Pre GA Unranked in both Youth Soccer Rankings AND GotSoccer. Is there even a 11 team. I can't find any record of them playing in NCSL, EDP or ODSL


11 - FCV still has a team in NCSL http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F102100997%2F96395329-102101159%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1632938728146
The EDP team moved to ECNL-R and plays as Villarreal https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/flightstandings.aspx?eid=2384&fid=12598


Reliance on soccer rankings especially for anything pre-11v11 is really inaccurate. Rosters at these ages are fluid and players can be quite different from game to game. And with pre-GA (10,11) teams playing as Villarreal none of their games will be factored into the rankings. But if it makes you feel better to study these rankings, you do you. Nobody but you cares about these cross league rankings and certainly not the clubs. The only ranking that matters is in your league's conference standings because that's how you get entry to the national tournaments and showcases.



They are inaccurate until they aren’t. The reality is they are not ranked because there is very little playing history on them or what does exist is very poor results. The reality is none of the older FCV teams were ever ranked as low as these younger teams are being ranked and certainly none have ever been un-ranked before. It is pretty difficult to get placed in higher level brackets at tournaments without a higher ranking.

When a parent is looking for a team to put their DD on they want a team they A. can find and B. Looks to be somewhat successful. So you may not think they are useful or accurate but that is not the sentiment of parents or tournament coordinators, for whom the rankings exist.

Bottom line, FCV NEEDS to win to draw players. They are not Loudoun with 10,000 kids in a player pool. FCV NEEDS results to succeed as a club. They aren’t getting results at these younger ages because they aren’t getting the players. Loudoun is retaining players with ECNL and GA is not a draw otherwise.


I'm not following your Loudoun logic. Didn't some of the best Loudoun 07s leave a winning Loudoun 07 team this year?


Some players left a lot of different clubs this year. Nothing burger.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 14:08     Subject: Re:FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming things look roughly the same in rankings next year this is how FCV GA teams will look like:

05 - 3rd
06 - 2nd
07 - 2nd
08 - 4th
09 - 13th
10 - 15th
11 - Pre GA Unranked in both Youth Soccer Rankings AND GotSoccer. Is there even a 11 team. I can't find any record of them playing in NCSL, EDP or ODSL


11 - FCV still has a team in NCSL http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F102100997%2F96395329-102101159%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1632938728146
The EDP team moved to ECNL-R and plays as Villarreal https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/flightstandings.aspx?eid=2384&fid=12598


Reliance on soccer rankings especially for anything pre-11v11 is really inaccurate. Rosters at these ages are fluid and players can be quite different from game to game. And with pre-GA (10,11) teams playing as Villarreal none of their games will be factored into the rankings. But if it makes you feel better to study these rankings, you do you. Nobody but you cares about these cross league rankings and certainly not the clubs. The only ranking that matters is in your league's conference standings because that's how you get entry to the national tournaments and showcases.



They are inaccurate until they aren’t. The reality is they are not ranked because there is very little playing history on them or what does exist is very poor results. The reality is none of the older FCV teams were ever ranked as low as these younger teams are being ranked and certainly none have ever been un-ranked before. It is pretty difficult to get placed in higher level brackets at tournaments without a higher ranking.

When a parent is looking for a team to put their DD on they want a team they A. can find and B. Looks to be somewhat successful. So you may not think they are useful or accurate but that is not the sentiment of parents or tournament coordinators, for whom the rankings exist.

Bottom line, FCV NEEDS to win to draw players. They are not Loudoun with 10,000 kids in a player pool. FCV NEEDS results to succeed as a club. They aren’t getting results at these younger ages because they aren’t getting the players. Loudoun is retaining players with ECNL and GA is not a draw otherwise.


I'm not following your Loudoun logic. Didn't some of the best Loudoun 07s leave a winning Loudoun 07 team this year?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 13:16     Subject: Re:FCV 2007

You meant to say Frederick County.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 10:50     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to bash Loudoun Soccer for not giving out refunds. I find it shocking you would do so, calling it criminal, while supporting a club that also didn't give out refunds.


FCV travel didn’t give out refunds, but I think their rec program did.


FCV DA/GA gave out refunds in the form of credit for the next season.


Loudoun did the same.


Loudoun FORCED you to accept their keeping of your money and ask that you call it a donation. Big difference. However, nobody expects a Fool who buys into that place to understand.


This is the FCV dad origin story! He and his family eat ramen and Mac and cheese for a year to save up for Loudoun soccer. Covid hits and no soccer and no refund. Rage! He moves kids to the other local team FCV and his rage transforms him into an overcarb’d crusader known as FCV Dad! Everyday he dons his xxxl stretchy pregnancy pants, two bags of Doritos and goes to work on DCUM to extract revenge for his lost $3k. During the day, a simple data center desktop support technician working in a dark cubicle. On breaks and at night, he emerges as FCV dad on his iPhone 6 and 12’ wide townhome w 1 garage in a sea of planned communities in Loudoun county.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 10:18     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to bash Loudoun Soccer for not giving out refunds. I find it shocking you would do so, calling it criminal, while supporting a club that also didn't give out refunds.


FCV travel didn’t give out refunds, but I think their rec program did.


FCV DA/GA gave out refunds in the form of credit for the next season.


Spring of 2020 was our last season with FCV and we got a refund.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 09:10     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to bash Loudoun Soccer for not giving out refunds. I find it shocking you would do so, calling it criminal, while supporting a club that also didn't give out refunds.


FCV travel didn’t give out refunds, but I think their rec program did.


FCV DA/GA gave out refunds in the form of credit for the next season.


Loudoun did the same.


Loudoun FORCED you to accept their keeping of your money and ask that you call it a donation. Big difference. However, nobody expects a Fool who buys into that place to understand.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 07:59     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to bash Loudoun Soccer for not giving out refunds. I find it shocking you would do so, calling it criminal, while supporting a club that also didn't give out refunds.


FCV travel didn’t give out refunds, but I think their rec program did.


FCV DA/GA gave out refunds in the form of credit for the next season.


Loudoun did the same.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2021 07:21     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to bash Loudoun Soccer for not giving out refunds. I find it shocking you would do so, calling it criminal, while supporting a club that also didn't give out refunds.


FCV travel didn’t give out refunds, but I think their rec program did.


FCV DA/GA gave out refunds in the form of credit for the next season.
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 21:56     Subject: FCV 2007

You’re also forced to take a scholarship to VMI
Anonymous
Post 10/01/2021 19:43     Subject: FCV 2007

Good for them. The cost is much more for the travel players, but the expectations are different I think.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2021 21:31     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to bash Loudoun Soccer for not giving out refunds. I find it shocking you would do so, calling it criminal, while supporting a club that also didn't give out refunds.


FCV travel didn’t give out refunds, but I think their rec program did.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2021 18:26     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to bash Loudoun Soccer for not giving out refunds. I find it shocking you would do so, calling it criminal, while supporting a club that also didn't give out refunds.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 14:56     Subject: FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Hint: it’s related to that heist pulled off in Spring of 2020


FCV didn't give out refunds either.


Did FCV also wait until the 91st day (bypassing credit card companies standard 90 day for reimbursement deadline) until they came out with their lame and sorry azz note about how they “couldn’t” refund because “incurred expenses” (nothing was incurred for rec btw as coaches are parents working for free and fields allocation can be reimbursed) but somehow managed to get over $500,000 from the federal government precisely to offset those alleged covid losses?

Lmao please stfu. Your constant trying of bashing FCV with no tangible arguments other than they’re niche club and other mediocre reasoning is just pathetic.

Loudoun soccer has a track record of operating close to illegality. Let alone morally or ethically.


So FCV didn't give refunds either and LS took PPP loans in accordance to the rules set by the gov't for those loans and this is "close to illegality". Sure. I'll have what you're having.


I wouldn't waste your time responding to that clown. 10 years from now he'll still be spouting off on the great heist of 2020. Probably tell stories to his grandkids too.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 14:53     Subject: Re:FCV 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assuming things look roughly the same in rankings next year this is how FCV GA teams will look like:

05 - 3rd
06 - 2nd
07 - 2nd
08 - 4th
09 - 13th
10 - 15th
11 - Pre GA Unranked in both Youth Soccer Rankings AND GotSoccer. Is there even a 11 team. I can't find any record of them playing in NCSL, EDP or ODSL


11 - FCV still has a team in NCSL http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/_element_display/#%2F80738%2Fteams%2F102100997%2F96395329-102101159%2FTEAM.html%3Frnd%3D1632938728146
The EDP team moved to ECNL-R and plays as Villarreal https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/flightstandings.aspx?eid=2384&fid=12598


Reliance on soccer rankings especially for anything pre-11v11 is really inaccurate. Rosters at these ages are fluid and players can be quite different from game to game. And with pre-GA (10,11) teams playing as Villarreal none of their games will be factored into the rankings. But if it makes you feel better to study these rankings, you do you. Nobody but you cares about these cross league rankings and certainly not the clubs. The only ranking that matters is in your league's conference standings because that's how you get entry to the national tournaments and showcases.



They are inaccurate until they aren’t. The reality is they are not ranked because there is very little playing history on them or what does exist is very poor results. The reality is none of the older FCV teams were ever ranked as low as these younger teams are being ranked and certainly none have ever been un-ranked before. It is pretty difficult to get placed in higher level brackets at tournaments without a higher ranking.

When a parent is looking for a team to put their DD on they want a team they A. can find and B. Looks to be somewhat successful. So you may not think they are useful or accurate but that is not the sentiment of parents or tournament coordinators, for whom the rankings exist.

Bottom line, FCV NEEDS to win to draw players. They are not Loudoun with 10,000 kids in a player pool. FCV NEEDS results to succeed as a club. They aren’t getting results at these younger ages because they aren’t getting the players. Loudoun is retaining players with ECNL and GA is not a draw otherwise.