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Anonymous wrote:I had not heard of Savannah before this. And she was a year ahead of me at law school, apparently!

She was an nbc White House correspondent, the anchor (not a lower anchor), the top co-host of the Today show for ~14 years.

I know because her first name was in the running for my child.

I thought everyone knew Savannah Guthrie, even if you’ve watched the Today Show 2 times, or NBC nightly news when Brian Williams was host.

A lot of people don't watch either. This isn't like 40+ years ago when we all watched the same things and had shared cultural experiences through television.

Right, but the Olympics and Thanksgiving Day parade are shared experiences that well more than half of Americans watch or have watched at some point in the last 10 years.

I watch those but I have no idea who the studio host is for the Macy's parade or the Olympics opening ceremony.

OK.

I don’t know what the point is of sharing that you didn’t know who she was. Clearly a lot of people do. It’s been 13 days and this has grabbed the nation’s attention. Tons of podcasts and digital creators are following this and all the major news outlets update on the hour.

You might not have heard of her, but plenty of people have.

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Anonymous wrote:Stating the obvious, but if the backpack is “key” we’re in trouble.

This. It’s Walmart. Walmarts are everywhere. Without a receipt who knows what day it was purchased. Black Ozark backpacks were probably purchased everyday or every other day for years at the local Walmart.

It’s a tourist town. People hike.

It’s not a great clue to lead to a specific person.

Agree, it’s pretty much worthless. The dude was zipped up. Contained. Everything generic. I suspect he/she even wore a mask under the balaclava to disguise face structure and features. I agree about the aimless nature of the person once there, but they were prepared in dress.

I suspect someone paid them to do this.

The person was acting as if it was aimless but he knew exactly what he was doing and where the cameras where located. He wanted to appear haphazard and unprepared. I believe he was not the only person. He had to have a getaway driver.someone had to handle Nancy and someone else had to drive Who’s that person? What vehicle was the getaway vehicle?

The sheriff is cagey about who dropped Nancy off that night. At first, it was mentioned Annie dropped her off then it was suggested that Tommaso dropped her off. It’s possible the front door wasn’t even locked. Whoever dropped her off left the front door unlocked on purpose for the perp. They just didn’t disable the camera because they weren’t masked or concealed. That was the job of the perp

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Anonymous wrote:Stating the obvious, but if the backpack is “key” we’re in trouble.

This. It’s Walmart. Walmarts are everywhere. Without a receipt who knows what day it was purchased. Black Ozark backpacks were probably purchased everyday or every other day for years at the local Walmart.

It’s a tourist town. People hike.

It’s not a great clue to lead to a specific person.

The backpack could’ve belonged to some random high school kid who lost their backpack. The backpack means nothing. The perp probably stole it. Do they think a perp smart enough to hide their face with a mask and exaggerate their walk, instantly identify and toss the doorbell camera in the bushes, and get an old woman to answer the door at 2am was dumb enough to go to Walmart the day of the crime shopping for a backpack? This was obviously well thought out and not done on a whim.

The blood evidence on the front porch was the obvious hint not the freaking backpack but the idiot cops didn’t close that off as a crime scene so it ie now contaminated with DNA from onlookers, neighbors, national media, YouTubers, and plenty of others. The house should’ve been closed off to family and everyone else as an active crime scene.

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Anonymous wrote:Stating the obvious, but if the backpack is “key” we’re in trouble.

This. It’s Walmart. Walmarts are everywhere. Without a receipt who knows what day it was purchased. Black Ozark backpacks were probably purchased everyday or every other day for years at the local Walmart.

It’s a tourist town. People hike.

It’s not a great clue to lead to a specific person.

Agree, it’s pretty much worthless. The dude was zipped up. Contained. Everything generic. I suspect he/she even wore a mask under the balaclava to disguise face structure and features. I agree about the aimless nature of the person once there, but they were prepared in dress.

I suspect someone paid them to do this.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems very bleak at this point. They have hardly any forensic evidence. No clues that we are aware of. All we have is that video. And a random glove far from the crime scene. It’s been 12 days. Everyone makes fun of the kidnapper for looking like an amateur, well, he seems to have done the job and not left a trace. I am so sorry this has happened and my heart goes to the Guthrie family. I will say the FBI, led by Kash Patel, is probably a disaster and bungled it.

I have seen a couple of interviews with experts this morning, and they actually seem hopeful. The backpack is key. They believe the suspect is from Tucson, so he probably purchased it locally. They will look at everyone who purchased it and pull driver’s license info to eliminate everyone who does not fit the height and facial features. This will narrow it down a lot. Sure, there is a chance that he borrowed it, stole it, or purchased second-hand. But it seems less likely. Even if he purchased with cash, they can pull surveillance video. Somebody will recognize him from the video. I am convinced that they are already closing in.

The cops sure seem to be operating from the 1800s. Who doesn’t shop online nowadays? Good god, they’re really hoping Walmart will solve this crime?

How are they sure the backpack is brand new?

Well they aren’t shopping online with cash. So they will have credit card info for purchases made online and shipped to Tucson.

Apparently it is the latest version of the backpack so they know it was purchased fairly recently.

Also, me. I don’t like to buy everything online. I am no Olympic athlete, but I do have the energy to walk into the Wal-Mart down the road. For something like a backpack, I would prefer to check out the size, quality, storage compartments in person.

Are they sure what body part the blood came from? Her hands, her legs?

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Anonymous wrote:Stating the obvious, but if the backpack is “key” we’re in trouble.

I thought they said it was from Walmart. It isn’t some rare special made item.

It’s $10 not even the $15 version

https://www.walmart.com/ip/1471296137?sid=e9cb368c-d4a8-4879-90c6-da1631933610


I even see one on Poshmark right now - same color and style.

Anonymous wrote:Stating the obvious, but if the backpack is “key” we’re in trouble.

This. It’s Walmart. Walmarts are everywhere. Without a receipt who knows what day it was purchased. Black Ozark backpacks were probably purchased everyday or every other day for years at the local Walmart.

It’s a tourist town. People hike.

It’s not a great clue to lead to a specific person.

Anonymous wrote:Stating the obvious, but if the backpack is “key” we’re in trouble.

I thought they said it was from Walmart. It isn’t some rare special made item.

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Anonymous wrote:This does not seem to be a crazed fan nor a kidnapping - they could’ve easily acquired her vehicle instead of mysteriously (no tire tracks) disappearing with her. Assuming she wasn’t slung over their shoulder, how did this happen without a vehicle?!

To solve this, they need to determine what crime is it exactly. Was it a murder with the body removed? Those are rare too. Was it a kidnapping?

Why does everyone keep focusing on fire tracks? I’ve never seen fire tracks on gravel.

The Sheriff focused on this detail numerous times.

Stating the obvious, but if the backpack is “key” we’re in trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems very bleak at this point. They have hardly any forensic evidence. No clues that we are aware of. All we have is that video. And a random glove far from the crime scene. It’s been 12 days. Everyone makes fun of the kidnapper for looking like an amateur, well, he seems to have done the job and not left a trace. I am so sorry this has happened and my heart goes to the Guthrie family. I will say the FBI, led by Kash Patel, is probably a disaster and bungled it.

I have seen a couple of interviews with experts this morning, and they actually seem hopeful. The backpack is key. They believe the suspect is from Tucson, so he probably purchased it locally. They will look at everyone who purchased it and pull driver’s license info to eliminate everyone who does not fit the height and facial features. This will narrow it down a lot. Sure, there is a chance that he borrowed it, stole it, or purchased second-hand. But it seems less likely. Even if he purchased with cash, they can pull surveillance video. Somebody will recognize him from the video. I am convinced that they are already closing in.

The cops sure seem to be operating from the 1800s. Who doesn’t shop online nowadays? Good god, they’re really hoping Walmart will solve this crime?

How are they sure the backpack is brand new?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is crazy that some person might be obsessed with Savannah. Even some regular people get stalkers. It wouldn’t be surprising at all if someone who’s job it is to be relatable on TV everyday has someone who gets weirdly obsessed.

I don’t think Savannah is a household name and if a stalker was obsessed, wouldn’t they wait to kidnap her in NY? Why would they want her mom?

I get the feeling Annie and tomasso are bad seeds who were stewing about Savannah’s success for quite a long time

There is no debating that Savannah Guthrie is well known. She has been on a show daily that has millions of daily viewers for 14 years. Obsessed people aren’t rational, who knows why. Do you remember the singer Christina Grimmie who was murdered back in 2016? That man shot her because he thought she would never date him. These people are nuts.

Has the mom appeared on the Today show? How would a stalker know where her mom lives

Yes, her mom was on the Today show in 2025. Here is a link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUtXm2ucCZE

Brian Entin interviewed a retired local official who said most people in Tucson know Savannah Guthrie grew up there and went to school there. He said the town in general is very proud of their local girl who became a success. He also said while people generally know her mom and family still live there, most people wouldn't know the mom's name or remember what she looks like.

Her mom has been on the Today show several times in the last decade, most recently in the link above from a few months ago.

If someone wanted to find Savannah's mom, it is very easy as the house is titled to a trust in the mother's name.

This is why California doesn’t have public searching of property records—too many famous people who don’t want crazies to know where they live. I posted this a million pages ago but Tucson has very few famous sons/daughters. Linda Ronstadt, Garry Shandling, Linda McCarthy, Savannah Guthrie, Gabbie Giffords. That’s about it.

Regarding the reported power struggle between local LE and the FBI, the latest involved a glove found inside the house (different from the glove/s found on the side of the road). The FBI wanted the glove to send to Quantico and LE refused to give it to them and sent it to their usual lab in FL.

But when I heard LE's explanation, I agree with them. All the other evidence that needs DNA testing has been sent to this FL lab, as well as all the collected DNA profiles that are being used for elimination (family, regular household workers). So this piece of evidence should go to the same place where the professionals have access to the other DNA items and profiles.

In a future trial, it is much simpler if one technician testifies about the chain of command and the lab procedures used to make findings.

That said, I think the local Sheriff Nanos is on a little power trip and with the kidnapping concern and the notoriety of the victim's family which has brought in high media interest, perhaps it's better to turn the whole investigation over to the FBI. At least they used to be very qualified.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is crazy that some person might be obsessed with Savannah. Even some regular people get stalkers. It wouldn’t be surprising at all if someone who’s job it is to be relatable on TV everyday has someone who gets weirdly obsessed.

I don’t think Savannah is a household name and if a stalker was obsessed, wouldn’t they wait to kidnap her in NY? Why would they want her mom?

I get the feeling Annie and tomasso are bad seeds who were stewing about Savannah’s success for quite a long time

There is no debating that Savannah Guthrie is well known. She has been on a show daily that has millions of daily viewers for 14 years. Obsessed people aren’t rational, who knows why. Do you remember the singer Christina Grimmie who was murdered back in 2016? That man shot her because he thought she would never date him. These people are nuts.

Has the mom appeared on the Today show? How would a stalker know where her mom lives

This has been asked and answered many times. You figure it out genius.

I’m not reading every single post by the minute.

Posting asking for general updates is weird, do your own homework. People should just ignore these posts.

NP here, but maybe take your own advice and ignore if you are not willing to help..? After a busy few days, I am skimming through dozens of posts. I am seeing more “do your homework” type replies to questions than the actual questions. So it is you who is cluttering the thread with useless posts. On a thread this long, an occasional summary of events thus far or answers to common questions is actually quite helpful, so it does not bother me when someone asks.