Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appointed judge issued order confirming her intention to appoint a Special Master even before DOJ had the opportunity to respond to the “motion” with regard to the supplemental brief filed yesterday. The putative lawsuit hasn’t even been served in accordance with Rule 4.
You write so many words
Yet I understand so few of them.
Not that PP and IANAL but I thought the Federalist/RWNJ Trump appointee judge is giving Trump access to stuff for his defense that shouldn’t be granted.
Other than President Obama, there likely isn't an available attorney available who has the clearance to review said materials.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appointed judge issued order confirming her intention to appoint a Special Master even before DOJ had the opportunity to respond to the “motion” with regard to the supplemental brief filed yesterday. The putative lawsuit hasn’t even been served in accordance with Rule 4.
You write so many words
Yet I understand so few of them.
Not that PP and IANAL but I thought the Federalist/RWNJ Trump appointee judge is giving Trump access to stuff for his defense that shouldn’t be granted.
Other than President Obama, there likely isn't an available attorney available who has the clearance to review said materials.
Now wouldn't THAT be a sight.Anonymous wrote:I will offer a contrarian view. Trump suffers from a form of narcissistic personality disorder. He was the president and who was anyone else to tell him that he wasn’t allowed to keep “his documents” relating to something he may have considered to be a success of his presidency. So he started to hoard things — including classified materials — with the thought that successive administrations would not give him the credit he thought he deserved. Was it unlawful? Yes. Was it incredibly irresponsible? Yes. Did he put US secrets at risk? Almost certainly. Has he improperly shared classified information in the past? No doubt. But do I think he was selling national intelligence secrets? No.
Has this been the case, DOJ would not have handled the matter with the care and patience it did. It would come as no surprise to anyone that Trump did not turn over presidential records that became the property of NARA on 1/20/21. Something like the infamous Sharpie hurricane map. It was no secret he had aides remove boxes from the West Wing to the residence during the course of January. And senior staff attempted to discuss his legal obligations to surrender documents during that same period.
After repeated efforts to recover the documents, a grand jury was empaneled to subpoena the missing presidential records. Only then was there a recognition that Trump had taken voluminous classified material. And it would subsequently be discovered that his attorneys lied about the possession of such material all-the-while there was no meaningful effort to secure material tossed in boxes with raincoats and golf balls. But Trump was fully aware of the importance of some of the material. It’s the reason that boxes continued to be moved in and out of the storage area and some were found in the closet of his private office suite.
But we still have no indication that Trump was seeking to affirmatively misuse the material for personal or political gain. The time allowed to pass between May and August doesn’t seem to support this was the case. Nonetheless the counterintelligence professionals couldn’t have been happy about Orban visiting MAL earlier in the month and other foreign contacts that have not been made public. Let’s hope this was ultimately more a matter of securing positive control over the material and not something more sinister.
Anonymous wrote:
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT TRUMP THOUGHT.
FOREIGN AGENTS HAVE BEEN FOUND AT MAR-A-LAGO.
TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS WERE NOT SECURE.
TRUMP IS GUILTY OF PUTTING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AT RISK. Possibly killing some agents.
IGNORANCE IS NOT A DEFENSE.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appointed judge issued order confirming her intention to appoint a Special Master even before DOJ had the opportunity to respond to the “motion” with regard to the supplemental brief filed yesterday. The putative lawsuit hasn’t even been served in accordance with Rule 4.
You write so many words
Yet I understand so few of them.
Not that PP and IANAL but I thought the Federalist/RWNJ Trump appointee judge is giving Trump access to stuff for his defense that shouldn’t be granted.
Anonymous wrote:Trump appointed judge issued order confirming her intention to appoint a Special Master even before DOJ had the opportunity to respond to the “motion” with regard to the supplemental brief filed yesterday. The putative lawsuit hasn’t even been served in accordance with Rule 4.
Anonymous wrote:I will offer a contrarian view. Trump suffers from a form of narcissistic personality disorder. He was the president and who was anyone else to tell him that he wasn’t allowed to keep “his documents” relating to something he may have considered to be a success of his presidency. So he started to hoard things — including classified materials — with the thought that successive administrations would not give him the credit he thought he deserved. Was it unlawful? Yes. Was it incredibly irresponsible? Yes. Did he put US secrets at risk? Almost certainly. Has he improperly shared classified information in the past? No doubt. But do I think he was selling national intelligence secrets? No.
Has this been the case, DOJ would not have handled the matter with the care and patience it did. It would come as no surprise to anyone that Trump did not turn over presidential records that became the property of NARA on 1/20/21. Something like the infamous Sharpie hurricane map. It was no secret he had aides remove boxes from the West Wing to the residence during the course of January. And senior staff attempted to discuss his legal obligations to surrender documents during that same period.
After repeated efforts to recover the documents, a grand jury was empaneled to subpoena the missing presidential records. Only then was there a recognition that Trump had taken voluminous classified material. And it would subsequently be discovered that his attorneys lied about the possession of such material all-the-while there was no meaningful effort to secure material tossed in boxes with raincoats and golf balls. But Trump was fully aware of the importance of some of the material. It’s the reason that boxes continued to be moved in and out of the storage area and some were found in the closet of his private office suite.
But we still have no indication that Trump was seeking to affirmatively misuse the material for personal or political gain. The time allowed to pass between May and August doesn’t seem to support this was the case. Nonetheless the counterintelligence professionals couldn’t have been happy about Orban visiting MAL earlier in the month and other foreign contacts that have not been made public. Let’s hope this was ultimately more a matter of securing positive control over the material and not something more sinister.
Anonymous wrote:
It's potentially a good move. The Master looks at the information seized, and then declares none of it can be kept by Trump. His passports were already returned promptly.
Then all his supporters look even dumber.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appointed judge issued order confirming her intention to appoint a Special Master even before DOJ had the opportunity to respond to the “motion” with regard to the supplemental brief filed yesterday. The putative lawsuit hasn’t even been served in accordance with Rule 4.
You write so many words
Yet I understand so few of them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just witnessed my 70 year old father have a mini angry meltdown about the “FBI is out of control”. He’s not full blown trumplican, but an exclusive watch fox viewer.
Anybody else seeing this type of angry reaction to recent developments? His reaction was a little surprising and reminded me of Kubler-Ross a bit.
Can you send him the Karl Rove clip from above?
I tried to bring that and that’s what got me shouted down. It shocked me and I just dropped what I thought was just the normal teasing banter we usually engage in.
Could he be starting dementia? Any other signs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another incompetent legal filing from the Trump team last night. They want a special master to review for executive privilege (no mention of any AC privilege), which doesn't make any sense since the FBI is part of the executive and ignores the PRA requirement that disputes under the PRA have be filed in DC. Also no motion to expedite and they still have not served the US. Unless the judge helps them out, they'll still be briefing this in November.
Worst. Lawyers. Ever.
Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if any foreign based informants were killed or jailed, if that's how the US government knew their information was compromised?