Anonymous wrote:Divorce! Shocker! 🙄

https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/entertainment/golden-bachelor-gerry-turner-wife-theresa-nist-to-divorce-after-3-months-of-marriage/

I totally called that - Theresa seemed so unhappy at the Bachelor finale last month.

This makes me think that the Golden Bachelorette is going to have an even harder time creating a long term relationship. Old guys aren't willing to move. And the numbers (more older ladies than older men) -- mean that the old guys don't have to look far for attention. If they are walking and have either teeth or hair, that'll be good enough for the older ladies.

I think they BOTH got caught up in the show-biz thing and what producers were telling them.

To Him: You are HOT! You are the DREAM! Women want YOU!

To Her: You have to be vulnerable -- SHOW HOW MUCH you want him. If you hold back, you'll lose your chance at finding love.

They both got swept away with the excitement of the show and finding someone who was willing to cuddle and who had been through the loss of a spouse. Kind of like 22 yr olds-- they figured all the details would work out when the excitement settled down. But, the details about how hard it would be to give up friends and family connections wasn't really appreciated until they were looking at homes to buy. And when push came to shove, the value of those connections outweighed the day-to-day of being with someone.

It's ironic that Joey and Kelcey (who are about 1/3rd the age of Gerry and Theresa) -- have a much more mature plan to get to know each other for several years, to live together, and then get married.

I'm still kind of surprised that Theresa wasn't willing to go wherever -- it seems like she was always saying she was head over heels for him -- and women tend to prioritize love. I'm not as surprised that a 70+ yr old man was unwilling to uproot his life.

I guess neither one is bothered by sleeping single in a double bed.

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Anonymous wrote:Theresa won, SHE WON!!!

Um.

She did win. She won the competition. They had a prenuptial agreement, so her assets are safe and she got to enjoy the ride.

Are any of the bachelor couples still together other than Trista and Ryan?

How many times have they trotted out Sean Lowe and Catherine Lowe? If you haven't seen them, you have NOT been watching Bachelor/Bachelorette at ALL!

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Anonymous wrote:What if, in the fantasy suite, she said, "Listen, this is a potential revenue generator for both of us as we hit retirement years. Let's milk it until the $$ runs dry." Which is now.

If it was only that, they could have sustained a marriage of convenience for a good while and enjoyed a fun trip to Italy.

She was always grabbing and kissing him. He never seemed to initiate. I think it was too one-sided. I also think he was angry she wouldn't quit her job to give them more freedom to travel and so on (from Shandy podcast). My guess is she had her reasons, mainly not trusting in the relationship. But he did travel to NJ a few times, and she only want to Indiana once and seemed to be put off by the cultural differences. I don't think it's entirely on him.

I agree it's probably these two things: her lack of confidence in the relationship led to her refusing to quit her job (as she clearly promised on the show). His anger about that grew and he became even less loving toward her. Vicious cycle then kaboom.

Anonymous wrote:What if, in the fantasy suite, she said, "Listen, this is a potential revenue generator for both of us as we hit retirement years. Let's milk it until the $$ runs dry." Which is now.

THAT's a good fantasy, except it hasn't run dry yet, and she's bailing even before Italy. It would be nice if this were a 6 dimensional chess thing, but it's more of a broken Candyland.

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Anonymous wrote:Theresa won, SHE WON!!!

Um.

She did win. She won the competition. They had a prenuptial agreement, so her assets are safe and she got to enjoy the ride.

Are any of the bachelor couples still together other than Trista and Ryan?

She "won" the "prize." He's no prize, and that ride was not anything to brag about. Sorry.

Anonymous wrote:What if, in the fantasy suite, she said, "Listen, this is a potential revenue generator for both of us as we hit retirement years. Let's milk it until the $$ runs dry." Which is now.

If it was only that, they could have sustained a marriage of convenience for a good while and enjoyed a fun trip to Italy.

She was always grabbing and kissing him. He never seemed to initiate. I think it was too one-sided. I also think he was angry she wouldn't quit her job to give them more freedom to travel and so on (from Shandy podcast). My guess is she had her reasons, mainly not trusting in the relationship. But he did travel to NJ a few times, and she only want to Indiana once and seemed to be put off by the cultural differences. I don't think it's entirely on him.

What if, in the fantasy suite, she said, "Listen, this is a potential revenue generator for both of us as we hit retirement years. Let's milk it until the $$ runs dry." Which is now.

They seemed happy on the Dear Shandy podcast recently. Something must have happened, I suppose a big fight about where to settle.

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Anonymous wrote:They both got caught up in the fantasy, had a brief infatuation but there was no there there in the cold hard light of day.

Btw he’s a more convincing actor than she is. BS that they love each other and are best friends. She does not like him as a person.

Their body language has been off almost since the beginning, and their holding hands during this interview was SO awkward. My guess: it quickly became clear neither was willing to compromise in the end. And that they had both not been truthful with each other, some bait and switch on both sides. Pretty clear he is a my way of the highway kind of person and a narcissist who love bombs but with no real substance behind his feelings. It must have been pretty bad if they wouldn't hang in there a while longer, at least for the free Italy trip. She must have realized, so glad she didn't quit her job and move for him!!

If they had in fact been in love, they would have figured out a way to compromise. They weren't in love, period. And he never was, not even for a second. That's what I think she realized, poor thing.

I think she got caught up in wanting to win because it meant winning. She wasn't really thinking about what that truly meant long-term. Odd for someone who does financial planning, but maybe it was all so exciting she couldn't help it.

She seemed so giddy and excited after the fantasy suites night and during ATFR. I feel bad for her, she really did think this could be a big romance. Then she got to know him for real.

He's a good actor when the camera's on. When it's off, probably a different story. Kind of glad it means they won't appear on Golden Bachelorette. But now the pressure is on that show to have a genuine success story.

It's fine for people to be set in their ways, want to stay near kids and grand kids and community. What's not fine, and completely immature and stupid, is to get married knowing this. Unless there is even more to the story given how fast this divorce came.

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Anonymous wrote:Theresa won, SHE WON!!!

Um.

She did win. She won the competition. They had a prenuptial agreement, so her assets are safe and she got to enjoy the ride.

Are any of the bachelor couples still together other than Trista and Ryan?

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Anonymous wrote:They both got caught up in the fantasy, had a brief infatuation but there was no there there in the cold hard light of day.

Btw he’s a more convincing actor than she is. BS that they love each other and are best friends. She does not like him as a person.

Their body language has been off almost since the beginning, and their holding hands during this interview was SO awkward. My guess: it quickly became clear neither was willing to compromise in the end. And that they had both not been truthful with each other, some bait and switch on both sides. Pretty clear he is a my way of the highway kind of person and a narcissist who love bombs but with no real substance behind his feelings. It must have been pretty bad if they wouldn't hang in there a while longer, at least for the free Italy trip. She must have realized, so glad she didn't quit her job and move for him!!

If they had in fact been in love, they would have figured out a way to compromise. They weren't in love, period. And he never was, not even for a second. That's what I think she realized, poor thing.

I think she got caught up in wanting to win because it meant winning. She wasn't really thinking about what that truly meant long-term. Odd for someone who does financial planning, but maybe it was all so exciting she couldn't help it.

She seemed so giddy and excited after the fantasy suites night and during ATFR. I feel bad for her, she really did think this could be a big romance. Then she got to know him for real.

Anonymous wrote:I think I commented very very early in this thread, that the big elephant in the room is how difficult it would be for anyone to give up their community, their FRIENDS, their activities, their family proximity, their access to grandchildren, their doctors, etc.

The only option was for both of them to move to Florida or some new state where they would BOTH have to learn the lay of the land and make a new life together. At 70-ish, it's pretty much the very end of the age where anyone would want to do that. It takes time to make new friends, and get comfortable building a new life.

Maybe neither one is willing to give up their current life.

Yes, they need to do what Love is Blind does, with everyone from the same area. Very few people want to uproot their lives for a tv romance. Or even if they are up for it initially, they may come to regret it.