Anonymous wrote:Jobs tend to be local to an extend, all employers have to hire from schools in their locality. A quick search on LinkedIn shows 462 of 956 employees at Jane Street are in New York City, and the schools attended by most number of employees are along this order: 1. Princeton 2. Harvard 3. MIT 4. CMU 5. Cornell 5. NYU 6. Columbia. Three out of the top 6 are in NY/NJ, and out of the rest 2 are in Boston. Similarly a quick hit on Google shows 300 employees out of 1000 in Greater Pittsburgh area are from CMU, the city where the school is located, who is the second, 150 from Pitt, another local school, although if you go to Silicon Valley office that changes to Stanford, and Berkley. Where the employers are located matters, they can't always go out of their way to hire from top schools alone, San Jose State Univ employs a fair amount of graduates at Silicon Valley startups because they are right at the door step. That school is ranked anywhere near top.

I don't really understand this post, if anything it proves the point that top-paying companies tend to restrict hiring to a select top schools.

Cornell, which is in the NY/NJ area as you state, is 4 hours away from NYC, the same length away as Boston. So while its in NY the state, its certainly no where close to the NYC metro area where Jane Street is based.

There are plenty of universities in the NYC area who are far larger than the ones you listed (except NYU), namely CUNY, Stony Brook, Rutgers, UConn, and similar sized privates like Fordham, Hofstra, Stevens Institute of Technology. Universities like Syracuse, University of Rochester and Binghamton are a similar length away from NYC as Cornell/MIT/Harvard and are also not well represented.

That's the rather obvious point being made here. The top schools tend to dominate the top-compensating jobs, which is in-turn why they are considered top schools. If you don't want top-compensating jobs and have other priorities, these rankings are not made for you.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

You should contact the San Jose graduates from linkedin and ask their salaries. Post back here.

I’ll take this as SJS graduates do as well as code monkeys graduating from coding boot camps.

No one cares what your believe.

Anyone thinking about 4 years of SJU should consider a 12-week book camp.

Anyone who thinks you can learn what you need for a successful tech career in a 12 week boot camp with no other tech experience is so far off the reservation they don't deserve a reply.

So why did I reply?

I don't know. I feed the trolls like people feed pigeons I guess.

Supposedly there is no difference between MIT vs SJU. So some posters say, choose SJU. By their logic, there’s no discernible difference between SJU vs a 12-week - or longer - boot camp. So by their logic, choose the boot camp. I believe the pay might be competitive without the 4 years of meaningless distribution requirements in basketweaving “cultural” classes.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

You should contact the San Jose graduates from linkedin and ask their salaries. Post back here.

I’ll take this as SJS graduates do as well as code monkeys graduating from coding boot camps.

No one cares what your believe.

Anyone thinking about 4 years of SJU should consider a 12-week book camp.

NP. Just to clarify some of these PPs, first PP is not referring to SJU. They were referring to SJSU, San Jose State U.

Also get the sense that some of the prestige-hound PPs really don't know much about the workings of SV.

Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

But Cisco and Adobe do not pay anywhere close to Facebook, Google, etc.

Although its correct that going to school in a top job market helps.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

You should contact the San Jose graduates from linkedin and ask their salaries. Post back here.

I’ll take this as SJS graduates do as well as code monkeys graduating from coding boot camps.

No one cares what your believe.

Anyone thinking about 4 years of SJU should consider a 12-week book camp.

Anyone who thinks you can learn what you need for a successful tech career in a 12 week boot camp with no other tech experience is so far off the reservation they don't deserve a reply.

So why did I reply?

I don't know. I feed the trolls like people feed pigeons I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

You should contact the San Jose graduates from linkedin and ask their salaries. Post back here.

I’ll take this as SJS graduates do as well as code monkeys graduating from coding boot camps.

No one cares what your believe.

Anyone thinking about 4 years of SJU should consider a 12-week book camp.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

You should contact the San Jose graduates from linkedin and ask their salaries. Post back here.

I’ll take this as SJS graduates do as well as code monkeys graduating from coding boot camps.

No one cares what your believe.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

You should contact the San Jose graduates from linkedin and ask their salaries. Post back here.

I’ll take this as SJS graduates do as well as code monkeys graduating from coding boot camps.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

You should contact the San Jose graduates from linkedin and ask their salaries. Post back here.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

You are pointing to San Jose as an example of a non-elite who has arrived. So, it's a fair question to see if firms pay them the same salary they pay elite graduates. I am sure silicon valley also hires code monkeys out of boot camps, and coders from India. I doubt they get the same salary as elite college grads even if they work for the same firms.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

What is your salary?

Anonymous wrote:PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

What are their salaries?

PP here. Couple more examples to show why the overreliance on rankings and prestige is wrong. Continuing on San Jose State example, who are the top Tech employers located in the city of San Jose, Adobe and Cisco are two of the most prominent. Where they went to school? a hit on LinkedIn shows Adobe top 3 are 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Berkeley. What about Cisco? 1. San Jose State Univ 2. Santa Clara Univ. Go figure, local schools matters to employers.

Jobs tend to be local to an extend, all employers have to hire from schools in their locality. A quick search on LinkedIn shows 462 of 956 employees at Jane Street are in New York City, and the schools attended by most number of employees are along this order: 1. Princeton 2. Harvard 3. MIT 4. CMU 5. Cornell 5. NYU 6. Columbia. Three out of the top 6 are in NY/NJ, and out of the rest 2 are in Boston. Similarly a quick hit on Google shows 300 employees out of 1000 in Greater Pittsburgh area are from CMU, the city where the school is located, who is the second, 150 from Pitt, another local school, although if you go to Silicon Valley office that changes to Stanford, and Berkley. Where the employers are located matters, they can't always go out of their way to hire from top schools alone, San Jose State Univ employs a fair amount of graduates at Silicon Valley startups because they are right at the door step. That school is ranked anywhere near top.

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By the time someone is ready to get 400k the work experience and degree matters not where you went to school. I was discussing this with MIT graduated senior manager and he/she said usually they prefer not big school as some of the kids are snobs. Might be one individual opinion.

Wrong. There are students graduating from Stanford next month with an undergrad degree in CS that have accepted job offers making $400K. The interview process for these jobs was brutal, but the starting salaries are incredible.

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