Anonymous
04/14/2021 13:06
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it weird that the vast majority of men who have been shot by police recently have 1) physically resisted arrest, AND 2) have criminal records for violence (often against women). What are the chances of that?
That's a pretty idiotic statement (and you know that). First, violence against women isn't a statistic that is led by Black men. It's all too common among all races. The common thread here is that Black men are more likely to be shot by police during a traffic stop. Resisting arrest and having a criminal record are crimes that should be punished by the legal system (in court)...not on the street by a racist cop.
Follow the law, comply with police orders, and don't resist arrest or attempt to flee. You're almost certain to live. Simple.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Nope, not true.
What comes just after the end of that video is Daniel Shaver being executed by a rageful cop for ABSOLUTELY NO ACCEPTABLE REASON.
This problem with violence in American policing transcends racism, although racism is certainly a huge factor. Bottom line is that we have far too many violent cops who are ridiculously trigger happy and think of us as targets.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/a-police-killing-without-a-hint-of-racism/546983/
Anonymous
04/14/2021 13:04
Subject: Re:MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Daunte Wright committing armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious. Stop trying to minimize his criminal past.
Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.
There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.
Stop trying to minimize the fact that the color of his skin is why it even escalated to him being tased.
So the alternative is let him drive off?
YES. Apprehend him later. No one needed to die over any of this.
Huh. And what happens the next time - any reason to believe he won’t resist a third time? So we should just sit around and wait from criminals to turn themselves in when they feel like it?
No, you're right. We should just kill them. 🙄
No, we should use force to apprehend them. Which is what she tried to do, but made a tragic mistake which she should be punished for. But the idea that you should just let a resistant subject flee and get them another time is naive and dangerous.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 13:03
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how we expect a 20 year old to make all the correct moves while in an extremely stressful situation, but we can make excuses for a 26 year veteran of the police force who "made a mistake" in the same situation that she's probably been in a few dozen times, and has been trained to handle it.
Thank you for this point, which should be abundantly obvious to anyone capable of rational thought.
I should add that I very much hope she is convicted of manslaughter and serves every one of the ten years maximum term, but my quarter century in the system leaves me with the certainty that she is likely to not be convicted, and even if she is, to serve a piddling sentence just like Oscar Grant's killer did.
Will she also be sued by the victim’s family? Not only should she not benefit from her pension but it would be nice to keep her forever tied up in court, spending money on legal fees and not letting her “walk”.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 13:01
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it weird that the vast majority of men who have been shot by police recently have 1) physically resisted arrest, AND 2) have criminal records for violence (often against women). What are the chances of that?
That's a pretty idiotic statement (and you know that). First, violence against women isn't a statistic that is led by Black men. It's all too common among all races. The common thread here is that Black men are more likely to be shot by police during a traffic stop. Resisting arrest and having a criminal record are crimes that should be punished by the legal system (in court)...not on the street by a racist cop.
Follow the law, comply with police orders, and don't resist arrest or attempt to flee. You're almost certain to live. Simple.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Nope, not true.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:59
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it weird that the vast majority of men who have been shot by police recently have 1) physically resisted arrest, AND 2) have criminal records for violence (often against women). What are the chances of that?
That's a pretty idiotic statement (and you know that). First, violence against women isn't a statistic that is led by Black men. It's all too common among all races. The common thread here is that Black men are more likely to be shot by police during a traffic stop. Resisting arrest and having a criminal record are crimes that should be punished by the legal system (in court)...not on the street by a racist cop.
Follow the law, comply with police orders, and don't resist arrest or attempt to flee. You're almost certain to live. Simple.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:57
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how we expect a 20 year old to make all the correct moves while in an extremely stressful situation, but we can make excuses for a 26 year veteran of the police force who "made a mistake" in the same situation that she's probably been in a few dozen times, and has been trained to handle it.
Thank you for this point, which should be abundantly obvious to anyone capable of rational thought.
I should add that I very much hope she is convicted of manslaughter and serves every one of the ten years maximum term, but my quarter century in the system leaves me with the certainty that she is likely to not be convicted, and even if she is, to serve a piddling sentence just like Oscar Grant's killer did.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:55
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how we expect a 20 year old to make all the correct moves while in an extremely stressful situation, but we can make excuses for a 26 year veteran of the police force who "made a mistake" in the same situation that she's probably been in a few dozen times, and has been trained to handle it.
Thank you for this point, which should be abundantly obvious to anyone capable of rational thought.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:54
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
It's interesting how we expect a 20 year old to make all the correct moves while in an extremely stressful situation, but we can make excuses for a 26 year veteran of the police force who "made a mistake" in the same situation that she's probably been in a few dozen times, and has been trained to handle it.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:51
Subject: Re:MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:A white kid with an airsoft gun was shot according to news today. just throwing that out there.
Yes, we all saw that in the news so don't act like it wasn't covered. Not even close to the same situation. He was pointing the gun at the police and they fired their weapons to defend themself. They thought they were in immediate danger. Pointing a gun at the police will (and probably should) get you shot.
Nice try though.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:49
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Is it weird that the vast majority of men who have been shot by police recently have 1) physically resisted arrest, AND 2) have criminal records for violence (often against women). What are the chances of that?
That's a pretty idiotic statement (and you know that). First, violence against women isn't a statistic that is led by Black men. It's all too common among all races. The common thread here is that Black men are more likely to be shot by police during a traffic stop. Resisting arrest and having a criminal record are crimes that should be punished by the legal system (in court)...not on the street by a racist cop.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:48
Subject: Re:MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
A white kid with an airsoft gun was shot according to news today. just throwing that out there.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:44
Subject: MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Is it weird that the vast majority of men who have been shot by police recently have 1) physically resisted arrest, AND 2) have criminal records for violence (often against women). What are the chances of that?
It’s a problem with how parole works.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:42
Subject: Re:MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Daunte Wright committing armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious. Stop trying to minimize his criminal past.
Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.
There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.
Stop trying to minimize the fact that the color of his skin is why it even escalated to him being tased.
So the alternative is let him drive off?
YES. Apprehend him later. No one needed to die over any of this.
Huh. And what happens the next time - any reason to believe he won’t resist a third time? So we should just sit around and wait from criminals to turn themselves in when they feel like it?
There are division in the police that pick people up on warrants. That is literally their whole job.
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:39
Subject: Re:MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Daunte Wright committing armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious. Stop trying to minimize his criminal past.
Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.
There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.
Stop trying to minimize the fact that the color of his skin is why it even escalated to him being tased.
So the alternative is let him drive off?
YES. Apprehend him later. No one needed to die over any of this.
Huh. And what happens the next time - any reason to believe he won’t resist a third time? So we should just sit around and wait from criminals to turn themselves in when they feel like it?
No, you're right. We should just kill them. 🙄
Anonymous
04/14/2021 12:34
Subject: Re:MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Daunte Wright committing armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious. Stop trying to minimize his criminal past.
Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.
There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.
Stop trying to minimize the fact that the color of his skin is why it even escalated to him being tased.
So the alternative is let him drive off?
YES. Apprehend him later. No one needed to die over any of this.
Huh. And what happens the next time - any reason to believe he won’t resist a third time? So we should just sit around and wait from criminals to turn themselves in when they feel like it?