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Anonymous wrote:Black NCS mom here. One graduate and one still there. Both girls had amazing experiences. This year was hard for any black person in the country and I am proud of the ladies at NCS for using their voice to identify bias, racism and microaggressions. Could the school do more? Yes. They are trying. NCS is much much more progressive than STA. NCS has had a Black Student Union for years, STA has forbidden it until this year. NCS has a special ceremony at the end of year for black graduates called the Kente ceremony that the very active Black Alumnae Association participates in. So to OP's question, it really depends on what school you are looking at because they are quite different.

Many of my friends with black daughters ar NCS say their daughters are happy at NCS and they are pleased with the school. We have very candid conversations about many things so I know they would be honest with me.

NCS mom here and I would agree. It's a more diverse and progressive school. STA has bipolar admissions: ultra wealthy preps and then financial aid kids. NCS has far more families in the middle which helps immensely with daily harmony.

From my perspective STA's problems have more to deal with who they admit than who they don't. They have the diversity piece down (they have quite a large percentage of diversity kids). Now they have to stop admitting the Chevy Chase crowd. I'm white and this crowd completely snubs me too. It's not just black people that they're toxic towards. Why the school continues to preferentially admit them I don't understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Black NCS mom here. One graduate and one still there. Both girls had amazing experiences. This year was hard for any black person in the country and I am proud of the ladies at NCS for using their voice to identify bias, racism and microaggressions. Could the school do more? Yes. They are trying. NCS is much much more progressive than STA. NCS has had a Black Student Union for years, STA has forbidden it until this year. NCS has a special ceremony at the end of year for black graduates called the Kente ceremony that the very active Black Alumnae Association participates in. So to OP's question, it really depends on what school you are looking at because they are quite different.

Many of my friends with black daughters ar NCS say their daughters are happy at NCS and they are pleased with the school. We have very candid conversations about many things so I know they would be honest with me.

Anonymous wrote:Black NCS mom here. One graduate and one still there. Both girls had amazing experiences. This year was hard for any black person in the country and I am proud of the ladies at NCS for using their voice to identify bias, racism and microaggressions. Could the school do more? Yes. They are trying. NCS is much much more progressive than STA. NCS has had a Black Student Union for years, STA has forbidden it until this year. NCS has a special ceremony at the end of year for black graduates called the Kente ceremony that the very active Black Alumnae Association participates in. So to OP's question, it really depends on what school you are looking at because they are quite different.

Anonymous wrote:Amazing. STA such a bad school with horrible unhappy students. The place is a ghost town. I hope they’re able to fill all of those empty spaces.

Anonymous wrote:Black NCS mom here. One graduate and one still there. Both girls had amazing experiences. This year was hard for any black person in the country and I am proud of the ladies at NCS for using their voice to identify bias, racism and microaggressions. Could the school do more? Yes. They are trying. NCS is much much more progressive than STA. NCS has had a Black Student Union for years, STA has forbidden it until this year. NCS has a special ceremony at the end of year for black graduates called the Kente ceremony that the very active Black Alumnae Association participates in. So to OP's question, it really depends on what school you are looking at because they are quite different.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone or any school that makes decisions based on anonymous posts deserves what they get. I read some of the posts. Even the former head of Diversity at NCS gets tossed under the bus. While some of the older posts are plausible do you really believe a current student told another that if this was a few years ago I’d lynch you?

You're talking about a school where kids photoshopped black faces onto holocaust corpses in 2019. So yes, I believe these posts are plausible. Good grief.

What was so grotesque and troublesome about this event which happened TWO year ago is:

Not only did the kids do it but they felt confident enough to do it openly at school. Clearly they didn't fear repercussions or expulsion for doing this. They assumed the school would have their back or that it would just be laughed off.
It really shows how intrenched racism is in parts of this school community.

And yet they keep on admitting some of these families, despite the fact that the kids or the parents or both have records that make quite clear how they view these issues and how they have mistreated others on the basis of race, national origin, or sexual orientation. And for what? Seriously, for what?

4 years ago and they were expelled . There were those who said “ first offense “ and “ but they are young and they fell into an internet dark web parents didn’t know about “

That argument lost and they were expelled

Yeah schools have a role to set a high moral standard and educate young people , including socially, but ultimately kids comes from families and morals are learned at home - or not unlearned at home - and to blame a school - like some posters seem to relish doing is kinda unrealistic. A bad apple or two can get in . The school expelled them - the only one gloating over what they did is YOU

So, do you want improvement or more opportunities to gloat ?

Different poster. Sorry but your post is factually incorrect. It was 2.5 years ago to be exact. It was spring of 2018. Yes the boys were expelled but they received a lot of support by parents and kids. Victims received zero support. In fact a few boys put the names of the boys that did this on their helmets to honor them.

Did the school insist they take those off the helmets?

I don’t think they knew. That came out after the fact.

I am a different poster and I so not think STA encourages racism or elitism in the least. I really don’t.

I and many others think where they have failed is by admitting too many families that don’t want diversity or inclusion and who are vocally and publicly against BLM and against DEI and some against LGBTQ openly. So now they are left with a mess which will takes years to clean up after these families graduate from the Close.

I'm white from upper NW and everyone I Know at STA comes from one social group (I could even say clique). The rest of us (the normal Joe's) know not to even apply. Why? Because these families have been turning their nose up at us for years in preschools, sports teams, etc.
Pick the coldest/most distant parents on your kid's team and they're bound to be STA parents. Plus we (the journalists, the government workers, the public school families) know we're not getting into STA. The school will follow the money and prestige every time. We know our place and STA knows what they want. The stupid thing
is that they keep wondering why they have such issues with race and class. Well, duh. It's obvious to anyone who has any contact with STA. Stop preferentially admitting the wealthy assholes of Washington and their friends and your problem will be reduced by half overnight.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone or any school that makes decisions based on anonymous posts deserves what they get. I read some of the posts. Even the former head of Diversity at NCS gets tossed under the bus. While some of the older posts are plausible do you really believe a current student told another that if this was a few years ago I’d lynch you?

You're talking about a school where kids photoshopped black faces onto holocaust corpses in 2019. So yes, I believe these posts are plausible. Good grief.

What was so grotesque and troublesome about this event which happened TWO year ago is:

Not only did the kids do it but they felt confident enough to do it openly at school. Clearly they didn't fear repercussions or expulsion for doing this. They assumed the school would have their back or that it would just be laughed off.
It really shows how intrenched racism is in parts of this school community.

And yet they keep on admitting some of these families, despite the fact that the kids or the parents or both have records that make quite clear how they view these issues and how they have mistreated others on the basis of race, national origin, or sexual orientation. And for what? Seriously, for what?

4 years ago and they were expelled . There were those who said “ first offense “ and “ but they are young and they fell into an internet dark web parents didn’t know about “

That argument lost and they were expelled

Yeah schools have a role to set a high moral standard and educate young people , including socially, but ultimately kids comes from families and morals are learned at home - or not unlearned at home - and to blame a school - like some posters seem to relish doing is kinda unrealistic. A bad apple or two can get in . The school expelled them - the only one gloating over what they did is YOU

So, do you want improvement or more opportunities to gloat ?

Different poster. Sorry but your post is factually incorrect. It was 2.5 years ago to be exact. It was spring of 2018. Yes the boys were expelled but they received a lot of support by parents and kids. Victims received zero support. In fact a few boys put the names of the boys that did this on their helmets to honor them.

Did the school insist they take those off the helmets?

I don’t think they knew. That came out after the fact.

I am a different poster and I so not think STA encourages racism or elitism in the least. I really don’t.

I and many others think where they have failed is by admitting too many families that don’t want diversity or inclusion and who are vocally and publicly against BLM and against DEI and some against LGBTQ openly. So now they are left with a mess which will takes years to clean up after these families graduate from the Close.

I'm white from upper NW and everyone I Know at STA comes from one social group (I could even say clique). The rest of us (the normal Joe's) know not to even apply. Why? Because these families have been turning their nose up at us for years in preschools, sports teams, etc.
Pick the coldest/most distant parents on your kid's team and they're bound to be STA parents. Plus we (the journalists, the government workers, the public school families) know we're not getting into STA. The school will follow the money and prestige every time. We know our place and STA knows what they want. The stupid thing
is that they keep wondering why they have such issues with race and class. Well, duh. It's obvious to anyone who has any contact with STA. Stop preferentially admitting the wealthy assholes of Washington and their friends and your problem will be reduced by half overnight.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone or any school that makes decisions based on anonymous posts deserves what they get. I read some of the posts. Even the former head of Diversity at NCS gets tossed under the bus. While some of the older posts are plausible do you really believe a current student told another that if this was a few years ago I’d lynch you?

You're talking about a school where kids photoshopped black faces onto holocaust corpses in 2019. So yes, I believe these posts are plausible. Good grief.

What was so grotesque and troublesome about this event which happened TWO year ago is:

Not only did the kids do it but they felt confident enough to do it openly at school. Clearly they didn't fear repercussions or expulsion for doing this. They assumed the school would have their back or that it would just be laughed off.
It really shows how intrenched racism is in parts of this school community.

And yet they keep on admitting some of these families, despite the fact that the kids or the parents or both have records that make quite clear how they view these issues and how they have mistreated others on the basis of race, national origin, or sexual orientation. And for what? Seriously, for what?

4 years ago and they were expelled . There were those who said “ first offense “ and “ but they are young and they fell into an internet dark web parents didn’t know about “

That argument lost and they were expelled

Yeah schools have a role to set a high moral standard and educate young people , including socially, but ultimately kids comes from families and morals are learned at home - or not unlearned at home - and to blame a school - like some posters seem to relish doing is kinda unrealistic. A bad apple or two can get in . The school expelled them - the only one gloating over what they did is YOU

So, do you want improvement or more opportunities to gloat ?

Different poster. Sorry but your post is factually incorrect. It was 2.5 years ago to be exact. It was spring of 2018. Yes the boys were expelled but they received a lot of support by parents and kids. Victims received zero support. In fact a few boys put the names of the boys that did this on their helmets to honor them.

Did the school insist they take those off the helmets?

I don’t think they knew. That came out after the fact.

I am a different poster and I so not think STA encourages racism or elitism in the least. I really don’t.

I and many others think where they have failed is by admitting too many families that don’t want diversity or inclusion and who are vocally and publicly against BLM and against DEI and some against LGBTQ openly. So now they are left with a mess which will takes years to clean up after these families graduate from the Close.

Anonymous wrote:There are many wierdly STA-obsessed people on this messageboard that come out of the woodwork on ANY subject concerning STA. Lacrosse, racism, dating, academics, admissions--you name it, there is a group here that has an opinion on absolutely everything about the school...and likely no connection whatsoever to the place.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone or any school that makes decisions based on anonymous posts deserves what they get. I read some of the posts. Even the former head of Diversity at NCS gets tossed under the bus. While some of the older posts are plausible do you really believe a current student told another that if this was a few years ago I’d lynch you?

You're talking about a school where kids photoshopped black faces onto holocaust corpses in 2019. So yes, I believe these posts are plausible. Good grief.

What was so grotesque and troublesome about this event which happened TWO year ago is:

Not only did the kids do it but they felt confident enough to do it openly at school. Clearly they didn't fear repercussions or expulsion for doing this. They assumed the school would have their back or that it would just be laughed off.
It really shows how intrenched racism is in parts of this school community.

And yet they keep on admitting some of these families, despite the fact that the kids or the parents or both have records that make quite clear how they view these issues and how they have mistreated others on the basis of race, national origin, or sexual orientation. And for what? Seriously, for what?

4 years ago and they were expelled . There were those who said “ first offense “ and “ but they are young and they fell into an internet dark web parents didn’t know about “

That argument lost and they were expelled

Yeah schools have a role to set a high moral standard and educate young people , including socially, but ultimately kids comes from families and morals are learned at home - or not unlearned at home - and to blame a school - like some posters seem to relish doing is kinda unrealistic. A bad apple or two can get in . The school expelled them - the only one gloating over what they did is YOU

So, do you want improvement or more opportunities to gloat ?

Different poster. Sorry but your post is factually incorrect. It was 2.5 years ago to be exact. It was spring of 2018. Yes the boys were expelled but they received a lot of support by parents and kids. Victims received zero support. In fact a few boys put the names of the boys that did this on their helmets to honor them.

Did the school insist they take those off the helmets?

I don’t think they knew. That came out after the fact.

I am a different poster and I so not think STA encourages racism or elitism in the least. I really don’t.

I and many others think where they have failed is by admitting too many families that don’t want diversity or inclusion and who are vocally and publicly against BLM and against DEI and some against LGBTQ openly. So now they are left with a mess which will takes years to clean up after these families graduate from the Close.