Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 18:27     Subject: Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:As I type this I’m sitting here watching my kids soccer coach facilitate a socially distanced soccer practice with masks and outdoor practice and all kids are staying 6 feet apart. My soccer coach is showing more resilience and creativity and commitment than my overpriced school...


How long is soccer practice? Is it 8 hours? Do the kids take off their masks to eat 30 minutes of lunch next to them? Do they use any materials beyond a soccer ball? Are there other adults around to help supervise? Do they have a large open outdoor area to spread out? Is soccer cancelled with it is dangerous weather? Does the soccer coach teach them from 6 feel away how to hold a pencil? This is ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 18:19     Subject: Re:Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone who has school-age children is trying to manage remote learning this year. I can understand not wanting to pay $35k for online learning that you can get through your county for free — I would not pay that either. So withdraw. But teachers do not have to risk dying because you do not want to balance working, children at home, and their education. You are not special.



Funny how the rest of the country stepped up. Grocery store workers, cleaners, hospital custodians, daycare providers, warehouse workers, delivery truck drivers etc, all showed up during a pandemic.


Funny how none of these types of jobs, with the exception of daycare providers, work intimately with small children whom they cannot social distance from. If you are going to post terrible things about teachers, at least make an attempt to compare similar jobs types. Teachers did show up. It is the rest of the people who cannot follow simple rules and keep driving up the case of COVID that didn't.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:34     Subject: Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Under any circumstance this fall, teachers are basically having to completely re-train themselves. All the years of student teaching and advanced degrees did not train them to be online teachers or in-person teachers to students who are supposed to adhere to the mitigation strategies.“

Didn’t you have all summer to “re-train”? Isn’t the school providing resources to attend classes and seminars, etc. to train you how to teach online? Why would you have to re-train yourself this fall?


Teachers aren’t contacted to work in the summer.


Teachers often engage in professional development during the summer that is funded by the school. Is that not true at Burgundy?
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:31     Subject: Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Under any circumstance this fall, teachers are basically having to completely re-train themselves. All the years of student teaching and advanced degrees did not train them to be online teachers or in-person teachers to students who are supposed to adhere to the mitigation strategies.“

Didn’t you have all summer to “re-train”? Isn’t the school providing resources to attend classes and seminars, etc. to train you how to teach online? Why would you have to re-train yourself this fall?


Teachers aren’t contacted to work in the summer.


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Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:30     Subject: Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Under any circumstance this fall, teachers are basically having to completely re-train themselves. All the years of student teaching and advanced degrees did not train them to be online teachers or in-person teachers to students who are supposed to adhere to the mitigation strategies.“

Didn’t you have all summer to “re-train”? Isn’t the school providing resources to attend classes and seminars, etc. to train you how to teach online? Why would you have to re-train yourself this fall?


Teachers aren’t contacted to work in the summer.


OMG get me out of this school!!
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:27     Subject: Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:“Under any circumstance this fall, teachers are basically having to completely re-train themselves. All the years of student teaching and advanced degrees did not train them to be online teachers or in-person teachers to students who are supposed to adhere to the mitigation strategies.“

Didn’t you have all summer to “re-train”? Isn’t the school providing resources to attend classes and seminars, etc. to train you how to teach online? Why would you have to re-train yourself this fall?


Teachers aren’t contacted to work in the summer.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:27     Subject: Burgundy Farm

As I type this I’m sitting here watching my kids soccer coach facilitate a socially distanced soccer practice with masks and outdoor practice and all kids are staying 6 feet apart. My soccer coach is showing more resilience and creativity and commitment than my overpriced school...
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:21     Subject: Burgundy Farm

“Under any circumstance this fall, teachers are basically having to completely re-train themselves. All the years of student teaching and advanced degrees did not train them to be online teachers or in-person teachers to students who are supposed to adhere to the mitigation strategies.“

Didn’t you have all summer to “re-train”? Isn’t the school providing resources to attend classes and seminars, etc. to train you how to teach online? Why would you have to re-train yourself this fall?
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:21     Subject: Re:Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone who has school-age children is trying to manage remote learning this year. I can understand not wanting to pay $35k for online learning that you can get through your county for free — I would not pay that either. So withdraw. But teachers do not have to risk dying because you do not want to balance working, children at home, and their education. You are not special.



Funny how the rest of the country stepped up. Grocery store workers, cleaners, hospital custodians, daycare providers, warehouse workers, delivery truck drivers etc, all showed up during a pandemic.


yeah teaching a group of 15 kids all day is exactly like driving a truck or cleaning somewhere. How often are truck drivers having to actually interact with people? Or cleaners or even grocery store workers? Those jobs you listed are JUST like teaching...and doing those jobs in a pandemic is TOTALLY different then how they are done during a non-pandemic just like teaching. Teachers are just whining and just want to stay home. because they LOVE working 12 hour days to try to make a bunch of pissed off parents happy and figure out some way to reach kids and educate them despite the problems...yeah pretty lazy

I don't know a single teacher that would not prefer in-person. They just don't want to risk their lives to deliver drastically inferior educational product, especially if they are trained as progressive educators. Maybe it works ok at a school where it's lecture, textbook, and worksheet based...

Under any circumstance this fall, teachers are basically having to completely re-train themselves. All the years of student teaching and advanced degrees did not train them to be online teachers or in-person teachers to students who are supposed to adhere to the mitigation strategies.

It's not just a matter of slapping on a mask and doing your job the same way as before, as it is with the other careers you listed. Give teachers a break. And no one entered teaching for the $$$...most entered for the children so yeah, they want things to be back to normal too.


BURGUNDY teachers are supposed to be creative innovative progressive and committed to outdoor and nature based education. While much more traditional schools like congressional are finding a way to make it work, Burgundy teachers Are abandoning this philosophy (and their students) in favor of all day screen time.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:12     Subject: Re:Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone who has school-age children is trying to manage remote learning this year. I can understand not wanting to pay $35k for online learning that you can get through your county for free — I would not pay that either. So withdraw. But teachers do not have to risk dying because you do not want to balance working, children at home, and their education. You are not special.



Funny how the rest of the country stepped up. Grocery store workers, cleaners, hospital custodians, daycare providers, warehouse workers, delivery truck drivers etc, all showed up during a pandemic.


yeah teaching a group of 15 kids all day is exactly like driving a truck or cleaning somewhere. How often are truck drivers having to actually interact with people? Or cleaners or even grocery store workers? Those jobs you listed are JUST like teaching...and doing those jobs in a pandemic is TOTALLY different then how they are done during a non-pandemic just like teaching. Teachers are just whining and just want to stay home. because they LOVE working 12 hour days to try to make a bunch of pissed off parents happy and figure out some way to reach kids and educate them despite the problems...yeah pretty lazy

I don't know a single teacher that would not prefer in-person. They just don't want to risk their lives to deliver drastically inferior educational product, especially if they are trained as progressive educators. Maybe it works ok at a school where it's lecture, textbook, and worksheet based...

Under any circumstance this fall, teachers are basically having to completely re-train themselves. All the years of student teaching and advanced degrees did not train them to be online teachers or in-person teachers to students who are supposed to adhere to the mitigation strategies.

It's not just a matter of slapping on a mask and doing your job the same way as before, as it is with the other careers you listed. Give teachers a break. And no one entered teaching for the $$$...most entered for the children so yeah, they want things to be back to normal too.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:04     Subject: Re:Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
learning that you can get through your county for free — I would not pay that either. So withdraw. But teachers do not have to risk dying because you do not want to balance working, children at home, and their education. You are not special.


I mean, no clearly I am not special, because I cannot tell my job that I refuse to come in and just keep my job indefinitely working from home. I've been told I have to start coming into work.


Exactly.


I cannot imagine refusing to go to work and not getting fired.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:03     Subject: Re:Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Everyone who has school-age children is trying to manage remote learning this year. I can understand not wanting to pay $35k for online learning that you can get through your county for free — I would not pay that either. So withdraw. But teachers do not have to risk dying because you do not want to balance working, children at home, and their education. You are not special.


I wouldn't disagree that withdrawal is a good option at this point.


We are planning to withdraw.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:01     Subject: Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:Tuition at Burgundy is 35 K? What a ripoff!


35K for remote learning. Yippee
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 17:00     Subject: Re:Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone who has school-age children is trying to manage remote learning this year. I can understand not wanting to pay $35k for online learning that you can get through your county for free — I would not pay that either. So withdraw. But teachers do not have to risk dying because you do not want to balance working, children at home, and their education. You are not special.



Funny how the rest of the country stepped up. Grocery store workers, cleaners, hospital custodians, daycare providers, warehouse workers, delivery truck drivers etc, all showed up during a pandemic.


Exactly. Teachers are basically advocating for their own irrelevance.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 16:40     Subject: Re:Burgundy Farm

Anonymous wrote:
learning that you can get through your county for free — I would not pay that either. So withdraw. But teachers do not have to risk dying because you do not want to balance working, children at home, and their education. You are not special.


I mean, no clearly I am not special, because I cannot tell my job that I refuse to come in and just keep my job indefinitely working from home. I've been told I have to start coming into work.


Exactly.