Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:41
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Standford has its own extension school called Standford Continuing Studies that serves more than 16,000 on-campus/off-campus students each year. Not sure what this dude’s issue is. Sounds like a hard reject from Columbia general studies.
You continue to call Stanford, which like Harvard is a superior school to Columbia, Standford. I’m not sure you’re being facetious or just too dumb to realize your mistake. In the meantime, extension schools are recognized as extension degrees. Most of the learning is off campus and they certainly do not carry the same cachet as a regular degree from Stanford of Harvard. Columbia University doesn’t not consider its students in the SGS getting an extension degree, as well they shouldn’t. They couldn’t charge full tuition if they were and wouldn’t allow students to take all of there coursework along with the rest of the student body.
Lol, my own kid did Standford EPGY that serves k-12 gifted kids, on-campus/off-campus. Standford doesn’t get dumpted on for that. My kid thought it was a good experience.
My kid did EPGY. It’s a good program. And if it’s Standford that hurt you to rage against the world, you have to wonder why go there.
Thanks for proving you’re a troll.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:30
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Columbia submits and fully advertises the GPA and test scores for each of its undergraduate divisions. There is no skullduggery. Anyone can read these.
How USNWR and other tabulators use the data is up to them.
You can easily look up the statistics for each division, take a calculator to add these total numbers, and divide by the number of all of the undergraduates to arrive at some pan-university numbers for all undergraduates. But these are not the numbers representing each undergraduate division which has a life and culture of its own. The College is in significant ways very different as a culture an institution from SEAS, from Barnard and from GS.
No one is hiding any numbers for any division, nor hiding any aspect of educational programming.
How USNWR and other tabulators use the data is up to them.
You can easily look up the statistics for each division, take a calculator to add these total numbers, and divide by the number of all of the undergraduates to arrive at some pan-university numbers for all undergraduates. But these are not the numbers representing each undergraduate division which has a life and culture of its own. The College is in significant ways very different as a culture an institution from SEAS, from Barnard and from GS.
No one is hiding any numbers for any division, nor hiding any aspect of educational programming.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:27
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Columbia is excellent, but Harvard is Harvard. Go to Harvard unless you absolutely do not like it for whatever reasons.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:25
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Anonymous wrote:Hello. Thank you for your comments.
In any event, I would go to Columbia as an undergraduate over all the other Ivy League Colleges except Harvard, Yale and Princeton; and Stanford.
It is better in the detailed programs it offers for rigorous study as an undergraduate than by far most places.
Harvard is too major a name to pass up, but after that and Yale and Prinecton, Columbia seems next as a choice.
Agree with the bolded.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:25
Subject: Re:Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Anonymous wrote:17% or a little higher say no to Harvard each year. In my time it was about 22 % said no to Harvard, leaving Harvard a 78% yield rate. Now, it is about an 82% yield rate.
People turn down Harvard for all sorts of valid reasons. So, never automatically say yes without a prudent consideration of all the knowable factors.
The yield rate for Columbia is 63%. That is very good, but nowhere near the yield of Harvard. You get into Harvard, chances are very high that you go to Harvard. If financials are/were not taken into consideration, Harvard would be my pick.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:21
Subject: Re:Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
17% or a little higher say no to Harvard each year. In my time it was about 22 % said no to Harvard, leaving Harvard a 78% yield rate. Now, it is about an 82% yield rate.
People turn down Harvard for all sorts of valid reasons. So, never automatically say yes without a prudent consideration of all the knowable factors.
People turn down Harvard for all sorts of valid reasons. So, never automatically say yes without a prudent consideration of all the knowable factors.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:20
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Standford has its own extension school called Standford Continuing Studies that serves more than 16,000 on-campus/off-campus students each year. Not sure what this dude’s issue is. Sounds like a hard reject from Columbia general studies.
You continue to call Stanford, which like Harvard is a superior school to Columbia, Standford. I’m not sure you’re being facetious or just too dumb to realize your mistake. In the meantime, extension schools are recognized as extension degrees. Most of the learning is off campus and they certainly do not carry the same cachet as a regular degree from Stanford of Harvard. Columbia University doesn’t not consider its students in the SGS getting an extension degree, as well they shouldn’t. They couldn’t charge full tuition if they were and wouldn’t allow students to take all of there coursework along with the rest of the student body.
Lol, my own kid did Standford EPGY that serves k-12 gifted kids, on-campus/off-campus. Standford doesn’t get dumpted on for that. My kid thought it was a good experience.
Thanks for proving you’re a troll.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:20
Subject: Re:Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
17% or a little higher say no to Harvard each year. In my time it was about 22 % said no to Harvard, leaving Harvard a 78% yield rate. Now, it is about an 82% yield rate.
People turn down Harvard for all sorts of valid reasons. So, never automatically say yes without a prudent consideration of all the knowable factors.
People turn down Harvard for all sorts of valid reasons. So, never automatically say yes without a prudent consideration of all the knowable factors.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:19
Subject: Re:Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Anonymous wrote:The Columbia College diplomas have been written in Latin at least since 1758, with the first full four-year graduating class; if not earlier following 1754. The internal divisions within the university are clear. The philosophy at the university is to : think critically, share ideas, work hard and each day be kind.
The College students certainly are not bothered in the slightest about GS students on campus or in their classroom ( not often noticeable except for the good insights they provide), so why on earth should you be bothered ? Clearly over 60,000 17-year-olds this year, and over 40,000 last year, are running with their applications to the College and SEAS, along with their parents, and do not see the GS education arrangement as any impediment.
The few GS students I met were fantastic individuals: veterans, interesting job experience ex-career people, journalists, and an artist or two who wanted to return to education. No College student ever felt 'flooded' and often did not notice or care. We were thrilled and too busy at the College to think anything other than about our college lives.
I’m sure they are all wonderful. All 3,000 of them with the vast majority not good enough to be admitted into Columbia as freshman. It’s fine. It’s also fine to point out that this huge amount/percentage of students, have helped Columbia to a lofty ranking within the top five at USNWR that frankly they don’t deserve. That’s my point of contention. The admittance rate and scores posted don’t truly represent the overall Columbia student body. Too many students taking classes are basically unaccounted for and this gives the wrong impression that Columbia is more elite than it actually is. Nice again, Columbia is an exceptional university, I just take exception to the way their student body is represented. It’s not entirely Columbia’s fault, USNWR is the culprit here.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:15
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Standford has its own extension school called Standford Continuing Studies that serves more than 16,000 on-campus/off-campus students each year. Not sure what this dude’s issue is. Sounds like a hard reject from Columbia general studies.
You continue to call Stanford, which like Harvard is a superior school to Columbia, Standford. I’m not sure you’re being facetious or just too dumb to realize your mistake. In the meantime, extension schools are recognized as extension degrees. Most of the learning is off campus and they certainly do not carry the same cachet as a regular degree from Stanford of Harvard. Columbia University doesn’t not consider its students in the SGS getting an extension degree, as well they shouldn’t. They couldn’t charge full tuition if they were and wouldn’t allow students to take all of there coursework along with the rest of the student body.
Lol, my own kid did Standford EPGY that serves k-12 gifted kids, on-campus/off-campus. Standford doesn’t get dumpted on for that. My kid thought it was a good experience.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:10
Subject: Re:Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
This should not be a debate. There is only one right answer. You can always move to NYC after college but you'll never be able to get a Harvard UG degree again.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:10
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
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Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:09
Subject: Re:Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
The Columbia College diplomas have been written in Latin at least since 1758, with the first full four-year graduating class; if not earlier following 1754. The internal divisions within the university are clear. The philosophy at the university is to : think critically, share ideas, work hard and each day be kind.
The College students certainly are not bothered in the slightest about GS students on campus or in their classroom ( not often noticeable except for the good insights they provide), so why on earth should you be bothered ? Clearly over 60,000 17-year-olds this year, and over 40,000 last year, are running with their applications to the College and SEAS, along with their parents, and do not see the GS education arrangement as any impediment.
The few GS students I met were fantastic individuals: veterans, interesting job experience ex-career people, journalists, and an artist or two who wanted to return to education. No College student ever felt 'flooded' and often did not notice or care. We were thrilled and too busy at the College to think anything other than about our college lives.
The College students certainly are not bothered in the slightest about GS students on campus or in their classroom ( not often noticeable except for the good insights they provide), so why on earth should you be bothered ? Clearly over 60,000 17-year-olds this year, and over 40,000 last year, are running with their applications to the College and SEAS, along with their parents, and do not see the GS education arrangement as any impediment.
The few GS students I met were fantastic individuals: veterans, interesting job experience ex-career people, journalists, and an artist or two who wanted to return to education. No College student ever felt 'flooded' and often did not notice or care. We were thrilled and too busy at the College to think anything other than about our college lives.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 10:09
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Anonymous wrote:Standford has its own extension school called Standford Continuing Studies that serves more than 16,000 on-campus/off-campus students each year. Not sure what this dude’s issue is. Sounds like a hard reject from Columbia general studies.
You continue to call Stanford, which like Harvard is a superior school to Columbia, Standford. I’m not sure you’re being facetious or just too dumb to realize your mistake. In the meantime, extension schools are recognized as extension degrees. Most of the learning is off campus and they certainly do not carry the same cachet as a regular degree from Stanford of Harvard. Columbia University doesn’t not consider its students in the SGS getting an extension degree, as well they shouldn’t. They couldn’t charge full tuition if they were and wouldn’t allow students to take all of there coursework along with the rest of the student body.
Anonymous
03/29/2021 09:59
Subject: Harvard or Columbia - Where would you go?
Standford has its own extension school called Standford Continuing Studies that serves more than 16,000 on-campus/off-campus students each year. Not sure what this dude’s issue is. Sounds like a hard reject from Columbia general studies.