Anonymous
04/18/2020 09:42
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Girls
Nostradamus here with a fearless prognostication. A long 3 months of hand wringing for all elite players and clubs. ECNL MA stays as is at 13 with FCV, Arl, and MU left out. exDA clubs scramble to retain players to play in either EDP or some form of DPL east coast extension. Top 2/3rds of exGDA players opt to test the waters at ECNL tryouts. Plenty of politicking and back channel discussions occur. 8-12 players across the 3 exDA clubs are slam dunks to get onto an ECNL roster without a good look especially where there are coaching changes. ECNL clubs make advance offers in May to attempt to secure these players, as well as their current top players. exDA clubs make advance offers as well in an attempt to stop the bleeding.
Tryouts begin in July, and even then are limited. Of ~60 exDA players avbl (MU, FCV, Arl), exDA clubs retain ~20, leaving ~40 distributed between VDA, BRYC, McLean, Loudoun, Bethesda. Varies across ages, but ECNL rosters take on average of 8-10 exDA players each, Bethesda takes on less due to proximity. Rosters grow to 23-24, bottom ~6-8 players drop down to RL teams. Each ECNL team fields RL team to retain as many players as possible.
Tryouts begin in July, and even then are limited. Of ~60 exDA players avbl (MU, FCV, Arl), exDA clubs retain ~20, leaving ~40 distributed between VDA, BRYC, McLean, Loudoun, Bethesda. Varies across ages, but ECNL rosters take on average of 8-10 exDA players each, Bethesda takes on less due to proximity. Rosters grow to 23-24, bottom ~6-8 players drop down to RL teams. Each ECNL team fields RL team to retain as many players as possible.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 08:31
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Keep barking at your shadow you scared EX-DA puppy.
Coming on this board and telling everyone how great your kid and FCV are will not earn your kid a roster spot on a ECNL team.
You obviously have a big chip on your shoulder with the, "I'll show you!" mentality.
Who exactly are you trying to impress?
You don't even know who to direct your anger at. I assure you, the ECNL parents had zero impact on USSF shutting down your precious league.
Only a weak man lives vicariously through his teenage daughter. Man up
Lmao. VDA 04. Just looked it up. 6 wins out of 20 games. Negative goal differential. Just the best!!!! Bring on Tophat. Btw VDA dad, no ex GDA players coming there anyway. Worst choice of all the local ecnl clubs. You may be begging for 6 wins next season if there is one.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 06:06
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:So here's the list of the top national DA teams that currently have not been accepted into ECNL, based on the stupid Soccer Wire rankings. Let's take a quick poll of who from this list will get accepted for ECNL:
1. Top Hat (GA)
5. FC Dallas (TX)
8. Legends (CA)
9. Beach (CA)
10. SJ Earthquakes (CA)
16. FC Virginia (VA)
25. NEFC (MA)
26. Sporting Blue Valley (KS)
28. Cincinnati DA (OH)
29. Lonestar (TX)
32. South Shore Select (MA)
35. LA Galaxy (CA)
37. Nationals (MI)
*ex-DA
Anonymous
04/18/2020 06:02
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That would be a YES. Making moves already.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of DA kids who will not make ECNL teams becasue not all DA players are what they seem to be.
This is where the parents will start berating coaches and spreading bad rumors about clubs because their superstar kid doesn't make it.
Chemistry on a team is vital to the success of a team, even if the DA kids are better, many coaches will not mess with the chemistry.
Amen. Also stands to reason that of the DA players that might compete to get on an ECNL team, it might not be the ones those parents think -- per PP comment, there are a lot of "top" players who aren't top -- they are just favorites and do get better through being given the opportunity. Maybe fresh eyes benefits the ones who weren't given those chances, and don't have prima donna complexes but just want to be a solid part of a good team.
In this area, DA doesn't equal "top" players for many of the teams due to dillusion. Some teams/some age groups.some players sure, but just because they are on a DA doesn't automatically mean they are elite (and same can be said for the ECNL teams). Too many "top" teams, so the consolidation is what this area desperately needed....
top 15 players on FCV teams 05 and older would start on any Ecnl team in the area except for BRYC 03 and McLean 01/02 - and even those two teams would have room for multiple fcv starters.
Take the top 6 players at FCV and plug them with any of the Top 6 players within the ECNL and you have one powerful team. Except at BRYC any team younger then that 03 team is awful!
So should we expect FCV's top players leaving the club for various ECNL programs? With the demise of DA, ECNL is by far the best platform for college recruitment.
Important to note here that this is a two way street with ecnl staff reaching out to DA players.
-Signed, the parent of the mediocre DA kid
Try again with that top 15, It’s a nice thought though. I will give you this, it does all depends which age group as well as which club. Truly, except for the 03 FCV team all other teams are subpar. Here is a crazy idea,pair your standouts at FCV with the ECNL kids that keep the teams competitive and you have one hell of a team. Who’s the top ECNL team at the 04, 05 and 06 level in the DMV? Ask yourself why? Then ask what you could do to make that team even better. Plug up the holes with the top players from FCV and you no longer have a team that win you have a team that dominates the top platforms within the ECNL because the teams aren’t watered down anymore. There’s a reason why as good as the front line is on the 04FCV team they aren’t winning everything at the top levels. Same goes for 05’s and 06’s however you take the top 06FCV kids and pair them with the top players at VDA and then you have top talent representing you and dominating without weak players on the bench. I am sure the one FCV dad thumping his chest will try to say, but, but, but we are winning. Listen your conference was watered down crap and beating Metro 10-0 isn’t awesome it’s expected. Top 15 will not get spots on the Top ECNL teams in the DMV that will be reserved for your starting 6-7. Keep hope alive though.
05 (FCV) would beat any 05 ECNL team in this area by 5 goals. 04(FCV) would beat any 04 ecnl team in this area by five goals. 03 (FCV) would have tough games against Braddock Road and maybe McLean. 01 (FCV) would be a great game against McLean 01 and throttle any other 01 ECNL team in the area by eight goals.
Then they’ll have no problem earning ECNL spots.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 00:22
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Friendly - January 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Won 1-0 (penalty)
FCV 04 DA vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 3-0
Penn Fusion Showcase - February 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Maryland United Showcase – February 2020
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs PDA BLUE ECNL: Tie 0-0
VDA 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 4-0
Bwahahahahahah BUT BUTTTT it was a scrimmage and andddd DAMIT we are the best and andddd we will beat any ECNL 04 team BY 5... shut the F up! The team wasn’t anything big! And YES! WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES. Top 4-6 have a chance everyone else go to BRYC and McLean.
Bethesda and Maryland United were coming off their HS season at this time and had yet to play their ECNL season...and still got these results vs a Tier 1 DA team.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 00:19
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
The MA division will not be broken into two sub groups like the NE division. Here's why
The NE division is ONE SINGLE CONFERECNE that is broken down into 2 subgroups. Its ONE Conference that covers the ENTIRE NE region of the United States from Maryland to Maine. It has major population areas like Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, etc. The SE portion of the US doesn't not have the population to support this.
The Mid-Atlantic /SE conference covers the entire Southeast portion of the east coast. Its ALREADY broken down into TWO separate conference so you don't need subgroups like the NE.
The new teams added to MA conference will knock out the South Carolina teams. The SC teams will be added to the SE conference with the addition of Tophat (without a doubt be added)
You guys are doing addition without the subtraction. The teams that make up the conference will be redone. You have to wait and let it play out.
With that said, the MA conference will be VA/NC
The NE division is ONE SINGLE CONFERECNE that is broken down into 2 subgroups. Its ONE Conference that covers the ENTIRE NE region of the United States from Maryland to Maine. It has major population areas like Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, etc. The SE portion of the US doesn't not have the population to support this.
The Mid-Atlantic /SE conference covers the entire Southeast portion of the east coast. Its ALREADY broken down into TWO separate conference so you don't need subgroups like the NE.
The new teams added to MA conference will knock out the South Carolina teams. The SC teams will be added to the SE conference with the addition of Tophat (without a doubt be added)
You guys are doing addition without the subtraction. The teams that make up the conference will be redone. You have to wait and let it play out.
With that said, the MA conference will be VA/NC
Anonymous
04/18/2020 00:13
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Friendly - January 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Won 1-0 (penalty)
FCV 04 DA vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 3-0
Penn Fusion Showcase - February 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Maryland United Showcase – February 2020
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs PDA BLUE ECNL: Tie 0-0
VDA 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 4-0
Bwahahahahahah BUT BUTTTT it was a scrimmage and andddd DAMIT we are the best and andddd we will beat any ECNL 04 team BY 5... shut the F up! The team wasn’t anything big! And YES! WELCOME TO THE BIG LEAGUES. Top 4-6 have a chance everyone else go to BRYC and McLean.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 00:06
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Keep barking at your shadow you scared EX-DA puppy.
Coming on this board and telling everyone how great your kid and FCV are will not earn your kid a roster spot on a ECNL team.
You obviously have a big chip on your shoulder with the, "I'll show you!" mentality.
Who exactly are you trying to impress?
You don't even know who to direct your anger at. I assure you, the ECNL parents had zero impact on USSF shutting down your precious league.
Only a weak man lives vicariously through his teenage daughter. Man up
Coming on this board and telling everyone how great your kid and FCV are will not earn your kid a roster spot on a ECNL team.
You obviously have a big chip on your shoulder with the, "I'll show you!" mentality.
Who exactly are you trying to impress?
You don't even know who to direct your anger at. I assure you, the ECNL parents had zero impact on USSF shutting down your precious league.
Only a weak man lives vicariously through his teenage daughter. Man up
Anonymous
04/17/2020 23:54
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Friendly - January 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Won 1-0 (penalty)
FCV 04 DA vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 3-0
Penn Fusion Showcase - February 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Maryland United Showcase – February 2020
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs PDA BLUE ECNL: Tie 0-0
VDA 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 4-0
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Won 1-0 (penalty)
FCV 04 DA vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 3-0
Penn Fusion Showcase - February 2020
FCV 04 DA vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Maryland United Showcase – February 2020
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 0-0
Loudoun 04 ECNL vs PDA BLUE ECNL: Tie 0-0
VDA 04 ECNL vs Maryland United ECNL: Tie 1-1
VDA 04 ECNL vs Bethesda 04 ECNL: Won 4-0
Anonymous
04/17/2020 23:53
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL just added another one ... not from VA:
https://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2020/04/17/charlotte-soccer-academy-join-ecnls-girls-for-2020-21-season/?fbclid=IwAR1qPNZsZAXE_eWo7EKRrm1NKoBJFWQ3zImE2EkjojZFwr4TVKLhC1DQ4BE
This brings the mid-Atlantic number of teams per age group to 13. Would make sense to add one more from NOVA, then have a North South division. Basically NC/SC (South) and NOVA/Richmond (North)
Would make even more sense to bring in three northern clubs to make 8 for VA and 8 for NC,SC,GA. And also a lot more $$$ and everyone wins.
GA clubs won't be added to Mid-Atlantic. If anything the South Carolina clubs would joint the Southeast Division.
United Futbal Academy is in Midatlantic Division and is in Georgia? Any ECNL team that is happy about going to Georgia over playing Arlington and FCV is nuts. Enjoy your weekend trip to Georgia when you could just drive 20 minutes to Arlington or Leesburg.
Anonymous
04/17/2020 23:11
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:MA conference only having 13 clubs this year. Time for EDP
You have no idea what will happen, with clubs still being added as of today.
Anonymous
04/17/2020 23:05
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
MA conference only having 13 clubs this year. Time for EDP
Anonymous
04/17/2020 23:00
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL just added another one ... not from VA:
https://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2020/04/17/charlotte-soccer-academy-join-ecnls-girls-for-2020-21-season/?fbclid=IwAR1qPNZsZAXE_eWo7EKRrm1NKoBJFWQ3zImE2EkjojZFwr4TVKLhC1DQ4BE
This brings the mid-Atlantic number of teams per age group to 13. Would make sense to add one more from NOVA, then have a North South division. Basically NC/SC (South) and NOVA/Richmond (North)
Would make even more sense to bring in three northern clubs to make 8 for VA and 8 for NC,SC,GA. And also a lot more $$$ and everyone wins.
GA clubs won't be added to Mid-Atlantic. If anything the South Carolina clubs would joint the Southeast Division.
That's a fair point. SE adding the two SC teams, plus maybe Tophat, would give the SE division 14 teams and more reasonable travel. It'd also leave the MA with 11 teams, which is the same as it was currently this year, but without the trip to SC.
Anonymous
04/17/2020 22:10
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL just added another one ... not from VA:
https://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2020/04/17/charlotte-soccer-academy-join-ecnls-girls-for-2020-21-season/?fbclid=IwAR1qPNZsZAXE_eWo7EKRrm1NKoBJFWQ3zImE2EkjojZFwr4TVKLhC1DQ4BE
This brings the mid-Atlantic number of teams per age group to 13. Would make sense to add one more from NOVA, then have a North South division. Basically NC/SC (South) and NOVA/Richmond (North)
Would make even more sense to bring in three northern clubs to make 8 for VA and 8 for NC,SC,GA. And also a lot more $$$ and everyone wins.
GA clubs won't be added to Mid-Atlantic. If anything the South Carolina clubs would joint the Southeast Division.
Anonymous
04/17/2020 21:04
Subject: Post-DA future - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL just added another one ... not from VA:
https://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2020/04/17/charlotte-soccer-academy-join-ecnls-girls-for-2020-21-season/?fbclid=IwAR1qPNZsZAXE_eWo7EKRrm1NKoBJFWQ3zImE2EkjojZFwr4TVKLhC1DQ4BE
This brings the mid-Atlantic number of teams per age group to 13. Would make sense to add one more from NOVA, then have a North South division. Basically NC/SC (South) and NOVA/Richmond (North)
Would make even more sense to bring in three northern clubs to make 8 for VA and 8 for NC,SC,GA. And also a lot more $$$ and everyone wins.
Ding Ding Ding
This is not happening. You can keep hoping it happens, but, at this point, it is like hoping that US Soccer changes it mind and brings back DA.
You said no more clubs will be added. That didn’t even make it till close of business.
I never said that. I have always said that ECNL would add a couple more teams. Tophat much more likely to get a spot than FCV. Much better program, and helps the SE conference.
There is a reason FCV is staying silent on ECNL. They are not getting it.
I’m sure Tophat is silent too. Yet Charlotte, CHARLOTTE got in before Tophat.
This is more about determining divisions now.
What does Charlotte have that Tophat doesn’t have? A former DA boys side that is also joining ECNL.
What does Arlington have that FCV and Metro don’t have? A former DA boys side that could also join ECNL.
So if the boys new mls league is u15 and u17 maybe it makes more sense(dollar wise ) to join ENCL. MLS boys is two teams per club vs ECNL’s what? pre u12 through u19? Much easier sell to the parents and more money(not that that matters).
Charge double for MLS and more “prestige.” Wonder which Arlington will go for....