Anonymous
04/22/2020 09:10
Subject: Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous
04/22/2020 09:06
Subject: Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:I hope they stop sharing “this could work” ideas with him because he’s so fcking stupid he doesn’t know how to handle that information.
+1
Anonymous
04/22/2020 09:05
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Trump’s trusts have invested in it and he stands to profit.
But someone has told him to stop talking about it.
Are they still using this drug on COVId patients?
Is the drug company helping to push this drug for unproven purposes?
trump is a fraudster and a con man. He literally does not care if what he says is true. He’ll say it, then say the opposite, then deny he every said anything, then accuse Hilary of saying it. Wash, rinse, repeat until something catches on in Magaland.
Well said. MAGA in a nutshell.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 09:00
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Because Trump’s trusts have invested in it and he stands to profit.
But someone has told him to stop talking about it.
Are they still using this drug on COVId patients?
Is the drug company helping to push this drug for unproven purposes?
Yes now he says “therapeutics” referring to a few different possible drugs
Anonymous
04/22/2020 08:57
Subject: Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turns out, it makes things worse
https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2
"do no harm"
Well, we have known for decades the GOP doesn't care about our veterans or really the troops in general, just pawns on a chessboard, but this is an abomination.
How can military families support this party?
Results were not peer reviewed, no data on how two groups were matched for age, severity or underlying conditions, 368 people in trial. No p values, statistical analysis. Not enough data. there should be several other starting points and endpoints discussed, such as avoiding intubation, time between symptoms and initiating drug, time when symptoms resolved, severity of illness when therapy was initiated, viral load, as well as mortality. This data is just as bad the initial trials supporting use. AND You’re the same as trump for spreading this kind of study garbage. There should be many, robust data trials coming out soon, where n is > 10,000.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 08:29
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Because Trump’s trusts have invested in it and he stands to profit.
But someone has told him to stop talking about it.
Are they still using this drug on COVId patients?
Is the drug company helping to push this drug for unproven purposes?
trump is a fraudster and a con man. He literally does not care if what he says is true. He’ll say it, then say the opposite, then deny he every said anything, then accuse Hilary of saying it. Wash, rinse, repeat until something catches on in Magaland.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 08:19
Subject: Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
I hope they stop sharing “this could work” ideas with him because he’s so fcking stupid he doesn’t know how to handle that information.
Anonymous
04/22/2020 07:55
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Because Trump’s trusts have invested in it and he stands to profit.
But someone has told him to stop talking about it.
Are they still using this drug on COVId patients?
Is the drug company helping to push this drug for unproven purposes?
But someone has told him to stop talking about it.
Are they still using this drug on COVId patients?
Is the drug company helping to push this drug for unproven purposes?
Anonymous
04/22/2020 07:44
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases recommends against doctors using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19 patients because of potential toxicities.
"The combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was associated with QTc prolongation in patients with COVID-19," the panel said.
QTc prolongation increases the risk of sudden cardiac death.
The recommendation against their combined use would seem to fly in the face of comments made by President Trump suggesting the combination might be helpful. On March 21, for example, the president described them in a tweet as having a "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."
Wow. Higher death rate for patients taking Hydroxychloroquine. Very sad for the patients
Anonymous
04/21/2020 21:43
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases recommends against doctors using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19 patients because of potential toxicities.
"The combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was associated with QTc prolongation in patients with COVID-19," the panel said.
QTc prolongation increases the risk of sudden cardiac death.
The recommendation against their combined use would seem to fly in the face of comments made by President Trump suggesting the combination might be helpful. On March 21, for example, the president described them in a tweet as having a "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."
Anonymous
04/21/2020 21:42
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are shortages of the drug that people like your SIL need because of Trump hyping it.
Only anecdotal, but my SIL has had no trouble getting it.
As for the study, go find the abstract and read it. It was only tried in the very, very sick and almost all had serious comorbidity. Go read the discussion. Yes, the results were not promising with these people--many of whom had pulmonary disease and/or diabetes. Most were African American where this disease has been most deadly.
The studies in France said it is best used early.
Sadly, we don’t have enough testing here to catch cases early. One of the pitfalls of not prioritizing testing.
+1.
+1
There are plenty of people who know they have it before they are hospitalized.
Suspect. Not know.
Just like we can suspect that the upswing in elderly pneumonia deaths is covid 19, but they’re not all being counted.
At any rate, how the heck would they be counted in a study if they can’t even get a test to find out if they have covid 19 or seasonal allergies until they’re in distress and hospitalized? For the purposes of drug testing, hordes of people thinking they might have a disease means little. For disease spread, it means a lot.
Anonymous
04/21/2020 17:53
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are shortages of the drug that people like your SIL need because of Trump hyping it.
Only anecdotal, but my SIL has had no trouble getting it.
As for the study, go find the abstract and read it. It was only tried in the very, very sick and almost all had serious comorbidity. Go read the discussion. Yes, the results were not promising with these people--many of whom had pulmonary disease and/or diabetes. Most were African American where this disease has been most deadly.
The studies in France said it is best used early.
Sadly, we don’t have enough testing here to catch cases early. One of the pitfalls of not prioritizing testing.
+1.
+1
There are plenty of people who know they have it before they are hospitalized.
Anonymous
04/21/2020 17:38
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are shortages of the drug that people like your SIL need because of Trump hyping it.
Only anecdotal, but my SIL has had no trouble getting it.
As for the study, go find the abstract and read it. It was only tried in the very, very sick and almost all had serious comorbidity. Go read the discussion. Yes, the results were not promising with these people--many of whom had pulmonary disease and/or diabetes. Most were African American where this disease has been most deadly.
The studies in France said it is best used early.
Sadly, we don’t have enough testing here to catch cases early. One of the pitfalls of not prioritizing testing.
+1.
+1
Anonymous
04/21/2020 17:32
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are shortages of the drug that people like your SIL need because of Trump hyping it.
Only anecdotal, but my SIL has had no trouble getting it.
As for the study, go find the abstract and read it. It was only tried in the very, very sick and almost all had serious comorbidity. Go read the discussion. Yes, the results were not promising with these people--many of whom had pulmonary disease and/or diabetes. Most were African American where this disease has been most deadly.
The studies in France said it is best used early.
Sadly, we don’t have enough testing here to catch cases early. One of the pitfalls of not prioritizing testing.
+1.
Anonymous
04/21/2020 17:29
Subject: Re:Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?
Anonymous wrote:There are shortages of the drug that people like your SIL need because of Trump hyping it.
Only anecdotal, but my SIL has had no trouble getting it.
As for the study, go find the abstract and read it. It was only tried in the very, very sick and almost all had serious comorbidity. Go read the discussion. Yes, the results were not promising with these people--many of whom had pulmonary disease and/or diabetes. Most were African American where this disease has been most deadly.
The studies in France said it is best used early.
There are trials in progress testing it in early stages of infection, and as a preventative ( frontline workers with exposure). This disease will likely require multiple drugs at various stages, but it will be months before we have established protocol.