Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 13:41     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:Closing the schools will have a significant negative impact on the provision of health care. Many health care providers (nurses, doctors, orderlies, janitorial staff, etc.) work the jobs and shifts they do precisely because of childcare. If their kids are out of school, they can't work.

DCUMs isolated and privileged suburban moms don't think about these things, but many hospital administrators are worrying a lot about this.


This thread is incredible that so few people consider the economic impact of what they are suggesting. The hit to small businesses where telework is not an option would be devastating. I understand the risk of exposure but I also understand the risk of not being able to pay my mortgage.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 13:37     Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.

This is no different than the flu going though schools. No need to close the whole system.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 13:36     Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:



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Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 13:35     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Closing the schools will have a significant negative impact on the provision of health care. Many health care providers (nurses, doctors, orderlies, janitorial staff, etc.) work the jobs and shifts they do precisely because of childcare. If their kids are out of school, they can't work.

DCUMs isolated and privileged suburban moms don't think about these things, but many hospital administrators are worrying a lot about this.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 13:31     Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.



Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 13:06     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:What are they waiting for?

Timeline of DC rector's illness, according to WaPo's Fenit Nirappil:

2/22 - Attended an Episcopal conference in Louisville, KY
~2/24 - Diagnosed with flu
2/29 - Seemed healthier
3/1 - Appeared healthy for church services -- 500 people!
March 2/3 - Health declined
3/5 - Hospitalized
3/9 - Tested +

We're weeks too late and tens of thousands of tests behind for containment to work, but they need to turn to mitigation ASAP. Flatten the curve.


You aren't healthy if your health declines the next day. You simply feel better. You stay home anyway
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 13:02     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:This virus may continue to spread for the next year (prediction from some talking head expert). So how long does everyone propose keeping schools closed? What about summer camps (that most of us have already paid for)?

Most of us don’t have cushy government jobs with weeks of accrued sick leave. Many people live pay check to pay check so what do they do with their kids home and no options to telework? I predict those of us with kids at home will be fired unless we find other community options to allow us to work.


I assumed you were someone who had a dog in this fight.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:59     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For basically 95% of people it is a cold. Relax.

Agree.
It is less lethal than the flu. Do we close schools when there is the flu? No.


Read actual medical data. This is patently false. 10% in Italy in ICU.


Every place has different rate. Look at washington care center. Super high. Italy, high, iran , high..



And we’ve JUST begun testing here. Of course the lethal rate is high when you’re only testing people sick enough to be hospitalized.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:59     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

What are they waiting for?

Timeline of DC rector's illness, according to WaPo's Fenit Nirappil:

2/22 - Attended an Episcopal conference in Louisville, KY
~2/24 - Diagnosed with flu
2/29 - Seemed healthier
3/1 - Appeared healthy for church services -- 500 people!
March 2/3 - Health declined
3/5 - Hospitalized
3/9 - Tested +

We're weeks too late and tens of thousands of tests behind for containment to work, but they need to turn to mitigation ASAP. Flatten the curve.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:59     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have family in Italy. All these comments about overreaction, just the flu, etc etc are the same ones they were having 3 weeks ago there. The situation has precipitated rapidly. And this despite the excellent healthcare system and general health of Italians (very little obesity, healthy diets, a lot of physical activity).
The time to act here is now. Unfortunately our political leadership is lacking. It will be up to local governments to lead on this.


See other countries as well. Quick reactions save life!

Please pay attention the detail here:
As one of the three confirmed cases in Montgomery county attended the retirement meeting at the Village at Rockville and many students from both Wootton High and RFMS volunteered at the Village at Rockville after Feb. 28. We are extremely concerned that these individuals are NOT considered at risk of contracting the virus. The incubation period of this virus can be as long as 24 days or longer. Some people who have contracted the virus may not even exhibit any symptom but can still be contagious.

When we see cases up, it would be too late because you never know who carry the virus and it can be spread without any symptoms.


What the ever loving F is wrong with you?

5 days is average, 14 days is conservative. That's the latest studies.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:56     Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:No time to read 17 pages, but the chart in this article is the key: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/6/21161234/coronavirus-covid-19-science-outbreak-ends-endemic-vaccine

The takeway: Act quickly, and do social distancing, so you can spread out the infections so they don't overwhelm the medical system. Otherwise good luck to anyone who breaks their arm, gets a UTI, ear infection, etc., etc., needs to go to urgent care or a hospital, and there's no capacity. And health workers start getting it and self isolating and dying, as in China. Read the recent letter to the editor in either JAMA or The Lancet about what it was like to work at a hospital in Wuhan last month, and how challenging it is to take the necessary precautions, day after day. And all those people who are infected, perhaps unknowingly because they're not at high risk, but live with family members who are -- what about them? It's a recipe for a total clusterf***.

I saw a chart recently showing that cities that closes schools the earliest during the 1918 influenza epidemic had the lowest fatality rates.

All those arguments about not closing schools are short-sighted. This is about survival; everything else is secondary. The children whose parents or other relatives or friends die because of these (in)actions won't thank you later for keeping their schools open for some reason that will seem very minor compared to the losses after all is said and done. And it's not an either/or, people -- just because schools give out meals to students doesn't mean that's the ONLY way for them to get meals.
. This is called “flatten the curve” and I agree. Schools need to close NOW.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:56     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Won't it die out with the warmer weather right around the corner?


No and it’s not about warmer weather. It has to do with higher humidity. Florida is warm and humid now and there are people dying. We are all vulnerable with no antibodies since this is a result virus. It won’t die out.


Yes, I heard about the mass graves in Florida
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:55     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Won't it die out with the warmer weather right around the corner?


No.

It’s warm in Iran right now.

Several countries with viral spread have warmer climates than we do.

Why do people need to reinvent the wheel instead of learning from other countries’ mistakes or quick action?

Close down schools and initiate large scale telework.

Bunch of deplorables. .




Is it though?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/ir/tehran/210841/weather-forecast/210841
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:53     Subject: Here is why we should close schools now.

DC community acquired case = rector at prominent Georgetown church with over 500 attendees at last Sunday's service. Started feeling ill on 2/24 after returning from Kentucky conference! Shut the schools down NOW.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2020 12:52     Subject: Re:Here is why we should close schools now.

Anonymous wrote:Westchester county school closes for the rest of the year despite no cases..

https://nypost.com/2020/03/08/westchester-county-school-closes-over-coronavirus-for-rest-of-year-despite-no-cases/


Um, Westchester county is a hotbed right now.