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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are PPs saying that she only applied to reach schools? She should have gotten into Spelman. Secondly, the mistakes in calculating her math grades are a big effing deal.

Nigerian-Americans are still URMs. Sidwell knows this. A look at Harvard’s C/O 2023 confirms this. I think this case is a net positive for current and future students, as the school will probably do a better job of accurately reporting grades now. It makes me wonder if there are FA families who have had similar experiences with little, if any, recourse.

I dont think she applied to Spelman on time. So that changes the analysis a good bit. And the point was she may have been viewed as Nigerian rather than Nigerian-American (i.e., as a non-citizen, a category that does not receive the URM boost).

She’s a US citizen. What do we call US born kids with Irish parents? American. She was URM, not an international candidate. First and second generation kids of African parents appear are a norm at HYP and you can best believe that the schools are counting them as AA.

I don't think they're counted as AA necessarily. But they're counted as black, and black kids are underrepresented minorities at these schools irrespective of their background.

For example, I'm black with West Indian roots, 1st-gen American. My kid is black, with one African parent. Still counts as an underrepresented minority--and despite being well-educated, our kid has already had discriminatory comments made to her at her private about the color of her skin. We know other similarly well-educated 1st-gen black families who've had similar incidents at their privates, even changing schools because of it in some cases.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are PPs saying that she only applied to reach schools? She should have gotten into Spelman. Secondly, the mistakes in calculating her math grades are a big effing deal.

Nigerian-Americans are still URMs. Sidwell knows this. A look at Harvard’s C/O 2023 confirms this. I think this case is a net positive for current and future students, as the school will probably do a better job of accurately reporting grades now. It makes me wonder if there are FA families who have had similar experiences with little, if any, recourse.

I dont think she applied to Spelman on time. So that changes the analysis a good bit. And the point was she may have been viewed as Nigerian rather than Nigerian-American (i.e., as a non-citizen, a category that does not receive the URM boost).

She’s a US citizen. What do we call US born kids with Irish parents? American. She was URM, not an international candidate. First and second generation kids of African parents appear are a norm at HYP and you can best believe that the schools are counting them as AA.

Crazy enough, someone born with an African parent and never got to know him and with a white mom who actually raised him, together with her white parents, is counted by many as AA.

It's like magic.

PP again. That should say “First and second generation American kids of African parents are a norm at HYP.”

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Anonymous wrote:Why are PPs saying that she only applied to reach schools? She should have gotten into Spelman. Secondly, the mistakes in calculating her math grades are a big effing deal.

Nigerian-Americans are still URMs. Sidwell knows this. A look at Harvard’s C/O 2023 confirms this. I think this case is a net positive for current and future students, as the school will probably do a better job of accurately reporting grades now. It makes me wonder if there are FA families who have had similar experiences with little, if any, recourse.

I dont think she applied to Spelman on time. So that changes the analysis a good bit. And the point was she may have been viewed as Nigerian rather than Nigerian-American (i.e., as a non-citizen, a category that does not receive the URM boost).

She’s a US citizen. What do we call US born kids with Irish parents? American. She was URM, not an international candidate. First and second generation kids of African parents appear are a norm at HYP and you can best believe that the schools are counting them as AA.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents are crazy. The suit is absurd. DMV entertainment at its finest.

The lack of awareness of your entitlement is real.

This is a parody post I hope?

I call BS.

It is clear these particular parents have significant entitlement issues. The lawsuit clearly illustrates this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents are crazy. The suit is absurd. DMV entertainment at its finest.

The lack of awareness of your entitlement is real.

It’s her parents who seem to act as the entitled ones. Entitled scammers.

If she had been the white daughter of a managing partner with the same stats and attitude my guess is they would have handled her situation very differently. I do not think it’s entitled of her parents to call out what happended. Or should they have just been grateful they got to play in the game?

This. When high-powered white families make a similar move, it's par for the course. When black families do this, they are accused of having a chip on their shoulder--basically, of not knowing their place.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents are crazy. The suit is absurd. DMV entertainment at its finest.

The lack of awareness of your entitlement is real.

It’s her parents who seem to act as the entitled ones. Entitled scammers.

If she had been the white daughter of a managing partner with the same stats and attitude my guess is they would have handled her situation very differently. I do not think it’s entitled of her parents to call out what happended. Or should they have just been grateful they got to play in the game?

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Anonymous wrote:As a Sidwell parent for over a decade, I've seen some pretty wacky parental behavior, but this is extreme. That said, though, the school leaves itself open to dubious claims of unfair treatment and retaliation by nurturing, or at least, allowing a culture of opacity to surround grading, course placement and college applications. It's unfortunate because it casts excellent and caring teachers in a poor light.

Agreed 100%. School needs to be much more transparent and communicate better. Start treating parents as stakeholders and partners, not as check writers.

From reading recent SIDWELL threads I feel the Sidwell parent community has a lot of issues. The school administrators should tell these entitled parents to shut up.

Apparently Sidwell did, so credit them for that. They told her entitled parents that the school wanted them “gone, gone, gone!”

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Anonymous wrote:Why are PPs saying that she only applied to reach schools? She should have gotten into Spelman. Secondly, the mistakes in calculating her math grades are a big effing deal.

Nigerian-Americans are still URMs. Sidwell knows this. A look at Harvard’s C/O 2023 confirms this. I think this case is a net positive for current and future students, as the school will probably do a better job of accurately reporting grades now. It makes me wonder if there are FA families who have had similar experiences with little, if any, recourse.

I dont think she applied to Spelman on time. So that changes the analysis a good bit. And the point was she may have been viewed as Nigerian rather than Nigerian-American (i.e., as a non-citizen, a category that does not receive the URM boost).

If she was counting on an affirmative action/URM boost to get her into Harvard and Yale, and her complaint is that she didn’t get it and it’s somehow Sidwell’s fault, then that suggests that otherwise she was not an especially compelling applicant.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you translate this for the non-legal people? Did the Supreme Court rule against Sidwell?

Didn't rule against them, but in the complaint it says that Sidwell agreed to pay the family $50,000 and change grades as part of an earlier settlement. I didn't realize grades were for sale or could be part of a settlement. Seems extremely dishonest and unfair to other hardworking children without litigious parents.

Routine at most privates.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents are crazy. The suit is absurd. DMV entertainment at its finest.

The lack of awareness of your entitlement is real.

It’s her parents who seem to act as the entitled ones. Entitled scammers.

Anonymous wrote:The parents are crazy. The suit is absurd. DMV entertainment at its finest.

The lack of awareness of your entitlement is real.

The parents are crazy. The suit is absurd. DMV entertainment at its finest.

Anonymous wrote:Why are PPs saying that she only applied to reach schools? She should have gotten into Spelman. Secondly, the mistakes in calculating her math grades are a big effing deal.

Nigerian-Americans are still URMs. Sidwell knows this. A look at Harvard’s C/O 2023 confirms this. I think this case is a net positive for current and future students, as the school will probably do a better job of accurately reporting grades now. It makes me wonder if there are FA families who have had similar experiences with little, if any, recourse.

I dont think she applied to Spelman on time. So that changes the analysis a good bit. And the point was she may have been viewed as Nigerian rather than Nigerian-American (i.e., as a non-citizen, a category that does not receive the URM boost).