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Anonymous wrote:My English friend who lives in the US now is always surprised about the hullaballoo about changing boundaries. Where he's from, they draw concentric circles around the school until they have a projected enrollment that matches school capacity and boundaries change regularly. So unless you live next door to the school, you're not really guaranteed anything.

+1. I agree with your English friend. And if we did that with Herndon high school, ALOT of great falls kids would be going there!

Well, we won't be doing that here.

You really need to get over it for your own mental health.

Most people don’t find learning what other countries do in similar situations challenging to their mental health. If you do, perhaps you should see a doctor and ask him if he knows a cure for extreme closemindedness.
Kind

I would say that most people aren't flummoxed by the implications of geography but I must face the fact that your low comprehension skills may, in fact, be common.

Nevertheless, your limited intellectual capacity would be better utilized trying to get your kid a better situation instead of trying to get boundaries redrawn to put some Herndon iapartment kids into Langley.

Of course, you probably can't understand that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My English friend who lives in the US now is always surprised about the hullaballoo about changing boundaries. Where he's from, they draw concentric circles around the school until they have a projected enrollment that matches school capacity and boundaries change regularly. So unless you live next door to the school, you're not really guaranteed anything.

+1. I agree with your English friend. And if we did that with Herndon high school, ALOT of great falls kids would be going there!

Well, we won't be doing that here.

You really need to get over it for your own mental health.

Most people don’t find learning what other countries do in similar situations challenging to their mental health. If you do, perhaps you should see a doctor and ask him if he knows a cure for extreme closemindedness.
Kind

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My English friend who lives in the US now is always surprised about the hullaballoo about changing boundaries. Where he's from, they draw concentric circles around the school until they have a projected enrollment that matches school capacity and boundaries change regularly. So unless you live next door to the school, you're not really guaranteed anything.

+1. I agree with your English friend. And if we did that with Herndon high school, ALOT of great falls kids would be going there!

Well, we won't be doing that here.

You really need to get over it for your own mental health.

Most people don’t find learning what other countries do in similar situations challenging to their mental health. If you do, perhaps you should see a doctor and ask him if he knows a cure for extreme closemindedness.
Kind

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My English friend who lives in the US now is always surprised about the hullaballoo about changing boundaries. Where he's from, they draw concentric circles around the school until they have a projected enrollment that matches school capacity and boundaries change regularly. So unless you live next door to the school, you're not really guaranteed anything.

+1. I agree with your English friend. And if we did that with Herndon high school, ALOT of great falls kids would be going there!

Well, we won't be doing that here.

You really need to get over it for your own mental health.

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.

Very few tears would be shed across Fairfax County if IB was eliminated or severely cut back. IB Diplomas make up under 4% of all Fairfax County high school diplomas despite being available to approximately 30% of students. IB rates at some schools are terribly low. The School Board has been negligent in not addressing the obvious issues with IB in Fairfax. None of the AP schools are lobbying to become an IB school.

Here are the impediments to getting rid of or cutting back on IB:

1. It eliminates the fiction that FCPS is "doing more" for the poorer schools.

2. It means some people wouldn't have pupil placement options to better schools.

3. Some School Board members love IB because it talks about producing "global citizens" who are "life-long learners," etc.

4. The parents/students who like IB have an outsized influence, and tend to be at schools where other parents/students are less vocal about things.

5. FCPS is never willing to admit its past mistakes, such as overloading certain parts of the county with under-subscribed IB programs.

But here are the advantages:

1. It would save money.

2. The AP curriculum is better suited to most students in FCPS, especially those with a lower degree of English fluency.

3. AP is less prescriptive and allows students to take more courses in areas that interest them, including STEM-related courses.

4. It would eliminate pupil placement options (the AP/IB arbitrage) that have gutted some of the lowest-performing high schools in the county.

5. It would make facilities planning and forecasting easier, leading to additional savings.

Are there any school board members or candidates willing to take a hard look at this? Or do we just keep doing the same things over and over again?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.

Very few tears would be shed across Fairfax County if IB was eliminated or severely cut back. IB Diplomas make up under 4% of all Fairfax County high school diplomas despite being available to approximately 30% of students. IB rates at some schools are terribly low. The School Board has been negligent in not addressing the obvious issues with IB in Fairfax. None of the AP schools are lobbying to become an IB school.

Here are the impediments to getting rid of or cutting back on IB:

1. It eliminates the fiction that FCPS is "doing more" for the poorer schools.

2. It means some people wouldn't have pupil placement options to better schools.

3. Some School Board members love IB because it talks about producing "global citizens" who are "life-long learners," etc.

4. The parents/students who like IB have an outsized influence, and tend to be at schools where other parents/students are less vocal about things.

5. FCPS is never willing to admit its past mistakes, such as overloading certain parts of the county with under-subscribed IB programs.

But here are the advantages:

1. It would save money.

2. The AP curriculum is better suited to most students in FCPS, especially those with a lower degree of English fluency.

3. AP is less prescriptive and allows students to take more courses in areas that interest them, including STEM-related courses.

4. It would eliminate pupil placement options (the AP/IB arbitrage) that have gutted some of the lowest-performing high schools in the county.

5. It would make facilities planning and forecasting easier, leading to additional savings.

Are there any school board members or candidates willing to take a hard look at this? Or do we just keep doing the same things over and over again?

Agree.
Here's some food for thought, as well.
Their new proposal says that no grandfathering will be allowed except for rising Seniors. How would IB be impacted by that. Are any sophomores or freshmen in the IB program?

They should phase out IB NOW. Any future redistricting will be further mucked up by it.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.

Very few tears would be shed across Fairfax County if IB was eliminated or severely cut back. IB Diplomas make up under 4% of all Fairfax County high school diplomas despite being available to approximately 30% of students. IB rates at some schools are terribly low. The School Board has been negligent in not addressing the obvious issues with IB in Fairfax. None of the AP schools are lobbying to become an IB school.

Here are the impediments to getting rid of or cutting back on IB:

1. It eliminates the fiction that FCPS is "doing more" for the poorer schools.

2. It means some people wouldn't have pupil placement options to better schools.

3. Some School Board members love IB because it talks about producing "global citizens" who are "life-long learners," etc.

4. The parents/students who like IB have an outsized influence, and tend to be at schools where other parents/students are less vocal about things.

5. FCPS is never willing to admit its past mistakes, such as overloading certain parts of the county with under-subscribed IB programs.

But here are the advantages:

1. It would save money.

2. The AP curriculum is better suited to most students in FCPS, especially those with a lower degree of English fluency.

3. AP is less prescriptive and allows students to take more courses in areas that interest them, including STEM-related courses.

4. It would eliminate pupil placement options (the AP/IB arbitrage) that have gutted some of the lowest-performing high schools in the county.

5. It would make facilities planning and forecasting easier, leading to additional savings.

Are there any school board members or candidates willing to take a hard look at this? Or do we just keep doing the same things over and over again?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.

Very few tears would be shed across Fairfax County if IB was eliminated or severely cut back. IB Diplomas make up under 4% of all Fairfax County high school diplomas despite being available to approximately 30% of students. IB rates at some schools are terribly low. The School Board has been negligent in not addressing the obvious issues with IB in Fairfax. None of the AP schools are lobbying to become an IB school.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.

You can’t really judge from the pupil placements any more, because so many schools are now either closed to transfers or limit them.

Most of the top schools in FCPS are AP. There has been no effort by parents at Langley, McLean, Oakton, Madison, Woodson, Chantilly, Lake Braddock or West Springfield to replace AP with IB.

IB does cost more than AP, and FCPS put it primarily in poorer schools, so I’m not surprised that someone like Palchik would try to suggest the location of IB programs reflects a commitment on FCPS’s part to do more for the lower-performing schools. But any effort to replace AP programs with IB at the top schools would be met with strong opposition.

Well, here statement does not reflect my impression that more IB school parents would prefer AP than vice versa.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.

You can’t really judge from the pupil placements any more, because so many schools are now either closed to transfers or limit them.

Most of the top schools in FCPS are AP. There has been no effort by parents at Langley, McLean, Oakton, Madison, Woodson, Chantilly, Lake Braddock or West Springfield to replace AP with IB.

IB does cost more than AP, and FCPS put it primarily in poorer schools, so I’m not surprised that someone like Palchik would try to suggest the location of IB programs reflects a commitment on FCPS’s part to do more for the lower-performing schools. But any effort to replace AP programs with IB at the top schools would be met with strong opposition.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/to-some-opposition-fcps-considers-boundary-policy-overhaul/article_d3dacdfa-afd9-11e9-b2fa-9f370ff28b07.html

"Providence District Representative Dalia Palchik says that the cost currently makes it infeasible to implement in-demand services like the International Baccalaureate programs in every school, noting that enrollment in IB programs is sometimes closed due to a lack of capacity."

This is not my impression at all. I'm pretty sure that more want AP. Someone posted a list of AP/IB PP, but I cannot find it. Which is getting more? And, of course, it is difficult to tell about demand because some schools close their placements.