Anonymous
04/25/2019 20:36
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.
You're shifting the goalposts.
The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.
Shifting goal post???
Same person???
Come, on lots of people post here.
Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.
Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.
Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....
No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.
Even better make the seats all local to the school to reduce transportation costs and overcrowding. It's a win win!
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:32
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.
You're shifting the goalposts.
The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.
Shifting goal post???
Same person???
Come, on lots of people post here.
Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.
Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.
Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....
No, MCPS shouldn't get rid of those 25 seats because there are enough teachers to educate 125 magnet students. They should simply allow 125 as county wide seat and not give backdoor entry to magnet to anyone. As far as capacity of school is concerned, it should be addressed by county wide boundary change to balance everything. This is one issue I want consultant to look closely when doing boundary analysis.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:28
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.
You're shifting the goalposts.
The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.
Shifting goal post???
Same person???
Come, on lots of people post here.
Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.
Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.
+1
I am from DCC and I don't see why not use all 125 magnets seats for entire area? That way more URM can avail magnet. Yes, 100 vs 125 argument is there, but it;s all MCPS resource. It's not coming from TP parents or Roberto Clemente parents.
If there is teacher capacity to educate 125 magnet students then all those seats should be available to entire county.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:26
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.
You're shifting the goalposts.
The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.
Shifting goal post???
Same person???
Come, on lots of people post here.
Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.
Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.
Then they'll get rid of the 25 seats, and the outliers at TPMS will take some of the 100 seats currently designated for OOB. This is so stupid. Same for RCMS. Less kids served all around. Certainly fewer OOB kids. If that's what you want....
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:24
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is nuts that the same bitter t-mom whose kid was rejected from TPMS keeps posting the same unintelligible drivel over and over.
There are many participants on this thread. I predict end to the set aside. If Cold Spring can't have its 20 seats, how can Takoma Park keep 25?
And the claws are out. Hello, there are no "Cold Spring seats." This along with all the bogus assertions about the set aside really support the notion that CS parents heavily prep their kids and try to pass it off as gifted because this stuff is just dumb. How can such "smart" kids come from parents who post such idiotic notions? It's been said over and over and over that the TP students FREE UP sets for OOB students (including the almighty CS). If there weren't the additional cut out, some TP students (who are not just "above avg") would take some of the 100 seats from OOB students. Including *gasp* CS students!
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:16
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.
You're shifting the goalposts.
The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.
Shifting goal post???
Same person???
Come, on lots of people post here.
Since MCPS is focusing on peer group and if peer group is large enough then they shouldn't be in magnet. That's what MCPS is saying.
Clearly, if Roberto Clemente MS or TPMS is having 25 kids good enough for magnet then they don't need to be in magnet. Magnet seats should be given to others who don't have large enough peer group.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:12
Subject: Re:Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The TP kids are not any smarter than kids from inbound for Eastern or SSIM and they certainly are not smarter than the kids from Frost, Hoover or Pyle.
The fed investigation is going to see all these white kids from TP with much lower scores than not only the rest of the magnet but from OOB kids that were denied admissions.
You can't say that one school with 25 kids that score well enough to do magnet work need to stay in their home school because they have a cohort yet another school with 25 kids that don't score as high yet can do the work get to be in a magnet.
Where to start with this idiocy?
1. You have no idea how TP kids are scoring. Would you like to see my kids' scores? They were significantly above the median. No one said TP kids are smarter than any other area, but there certainly are enough to fill the spaces and then some, and they are certainly no less smart than Frost/Hoover/Pyle (not sure why you make a distinction between these schools and others). I will say there was a larger representation of PBES at our HGC several years ago than any other elementary.
2. Not all kids coming from TP are white. I don't know where you're getting this nonsense.
3. You have completely missed the point of the 25 kids. It's not a cohort thing. It's a resources issue coupled with an integration issue. The TP kids FREE UP spots for out of boundary kids.
Trump may have made this kind of wishful-thinking "alternative facts" a thing, but just because you want it to be true does not mean the facts support it. Quit bashing the kids and advocate for more spaces overall.
Isn't that a bit wishful thinking? There are Magnet level teachers and classrooms for 125 kids.
No. This is fact based. There is added teacher load/space for 100 kids only. The other 25 is coming from teacher resources/space allotted to TPMS catchment. Teachers teach a variety of classes, they would just teach more non mag classes to fill the load if there were fewer mag students. Classrooms are for TP students + 100 potential magnet additions. Read. This has been stated numerous times. The wishful thinking is yours.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:10
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
The funny and sad part about this thread is it's one bitter person posting their insane and baseless rant over and over and people try to reason with them.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 19:09
Subject: Re:Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FYI TPMS has already started their renovations to expand the school so the overcrowding issue of adding 75 additional out of boundary magnet slots (instead of keeping the 75 in boundary slots) is not real.
It was never real. The in bound seats are a leftover vestige of white privilege. Time to end this.
It's common for Asian families to leave Potomac for TKPK these days because they value their children's education.
That's what all the smart people do these days.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 18:58
Subject: Re:Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The TPMS parent vehemently trying to defend her entitlement to easy set aside seats is really shooting herself in the foot.
An addition 20 inbound TPMS student who perform at or above grade level can easily be absorbed into the general program. Its the increase in kids with learning disabilities or who are performing several grade levels behind and need to be in collaborative or lower ratio classes that create more os a strain on staffing levels.
Parents don't realize that there is a cut off in all advanced classes that doesn't always correlate with who can do the work. Many of the inbound TPMS students are better suited to the advanced track in the general program. By pulling them away, there are fewer advanced track classes. If they go into the general program then more non advanced track classes can flip to advanced which will open the door to kids who are in on grade level math but could move up if there were more peers available.
From a score standpoint, the overall growth at TPMS, like most schools in MCPS, is coming from kids who are performing below grade level and achieving lower scores. Making all 75 seats open to the entire potential applicant pool and accepting the top performers or outliers while keeping the inbound TPMS students that score high but not as well in the general program helps offset the shifting % of students toward lower performance.
There is no way that allowing the inbound seats to predominantly go to white kids that score lower than OOB minorities is going to hold up with a federal investigation into discrimination. One of the easy remedies to save the program from being shut down altogether is to allow those seats not to be hoarded by white families with lower scoring kids but to be competed fairly throughout the county.
There is so much wrong here, the whole post needs to be bolded. Please stop with the unsubstantiated assumptions. I am guessing you have no experience with TPMS, magnet or non-magnet.
Yes, there are so many ignorant posts like the idiotic ramble above. And, I suspect these are the same people who want everyone to believe their out of boundary kids are smarter. If so, it isn't an inherited trait, I guess.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 18:54
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.
Yes, these 25 students are the TP cohort. This is the model that's now been extended to other middle schools. You're welcome. (If you wanted your student to be in this cohort, you should have been living in TP.)
Anonymous
04/25/2019 18:51
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.
You're shifting the goalposts.
The kids who at Roberto Clemente MS who benefit from the set-aside are, by and large, not white kids. They're Asian-American kids.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 18:50
Subject: Re:Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:FYI TPMS has already started their renovations to expand the school so the overcrowding issue of adding 75 additional out of boundary magnet slots (instead of keeping the 75 in boundary slots) is not real.
It was never real. The in bound seats are a leftover vestige of white privilege. Time to end this.
Posts like this just support the notion that west county kids just get ahead through prep because this is the dumbest thing I've seen on every count. The TP kids are not all white -- how is this white privilege? The expansion is because the community has grown, not to expand the magnet. The kids are currently in trailers. Please at least try to appear smarter by basing your allegations on facts.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 18:46
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Magnet middle schools are the only schools that do not offer the accelerated and enriched courses that were started this year. I think the 25 seats gives students from TPMS who are not magnet students an opportunity similar to what other middle schools offer.
Takoma Park may host the magnet, but they are still a school with local students, not just a magnet school.
Anonymous
04/25/2019 18:42
Subject: Takoma Park MS Magnet - 25 inbound seats?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is TP seats are for entire DCC or only for TP? If it's only for TP, it makes no sense.
+1
What's so unique about TP to give them quota?
Many MCCPTA leaders and county executives live in TP.
Yo crazy people every MS magnet in MCPS has a set aside for the host school because it doesn't cost anything as has been explained here about 1000 times.
Yup. Roberto Clemente MS had it. I don't know if MLK MS has taken over the Humanities one, but I would assume so.
They shouldn't have it because if we are putting 25 kids n magnet from one middle school then that means that middle school has large enough peer group.