Anonymous
03/09/2019 10:20
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it so interesting that if Obama or Bill Clinton had proposed this wall, it would probably already have been built, with Democrats cheering in adulation. Bill Clinton especially took a very hardline, no-nonsense approach to illegal immigration. But since it was Trump's idea, it must be mocked and derided.
But they didn't. Why didn't they? It's not a complicated idea, so it's not like they couldn't have conceived of the idea.
Exactly.
Anonymous
03/09/2019 10:18
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it so interesting that if Obama or Bill Clinton had proposed this wall, it would probably already have been built, with Democrats cheering in adulation. Bill Clinton especially took a very hardline, no-nonsense approach to illegal immigration. But since it was Trump's idea, it must be mocked and derided.
Uh yeah, it's called politics. Did you expect Democrats to play nice after the Republicans and their enablers spent the last 10 years pursuing their conspiracy theories like Benghazi. When you're incompetent, a compulsive liar, and most people hate you, it's hard to get what you want. I'm an independent (former R), and can't believe that 40% of Americans approve of Fox news and this idiot.
+1 Chris Wallace of Fox news essentially said the same thing about Mueller's investigation. I'm also a former R, turned Independent.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/videos/fox-news-anchor-chris-wallace-slams-republicans-for-whining-about-mueller-investigation/vp-BBTmOnI
Fox host Chris Wallace has slammed Republicans for 'whining' about the Mueller probe, indicating when Obama was president they didn't 'sit on their hands' as they investigated Benghazi, Fast and Furious and the IRS.
Anonymous
03/09/2019 09:07
Subject: Re:Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
The vast majority of people entering illegally do so at points of entry or get caught nearby. Very few actually cross successfully unnoticed. At least this is what I've heard from advocates and providers working in south Texas in the immigration advocacy community for the last two decades. So, why invest in a wall that isn't needed?
This makes no sense. The illegal entry goes down where there is a wall. They tell us most illegal DRUGS come through the ports of entry--but, not people.
Anonymous
03/09/2019 08:52
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:I find it so interesting that if Obama or Bill Clinton had proposed this wall, it would probably already have been built, with Democrats cheering in adulation. Bill Clinton especially took a very hardline, no-nonsense approach to illegal immigration. But since it was Trump's idea, it must be mocked and derided.
But they didn't. Why didn't they? It's not a complicated idea, so it's not like they couldn't have conceived of the idea.
Anonymous
03/09/2019 08:22
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:I find it so interesting that if Obama or Bill Clinton had proposed this wall, it would probably already have been built, with Democrats cheering in adulation. Bill Clinton especially took a very hardline, no-nonsense approach to illegal immigration. But since it was Trump's idea, it must be mocked and derided.
The vast majority of people entering illegally do so at points of entry or get caught nearby. Very few actually cross successfully unnoticed. At least this is what I've heard from advocates and providers working in south Texas in the immigration advocacy community for the last two decades. So, why invest in a wall that isn't needed?
Anonymous
03/09/2019 07:03
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The safe third country agreement with Canada has been in place since 2004. We needed this with Mexico like yesterday. No idea why it wasn't done at the same time. This would be a huge step to stop this crisis at our border.
But wait... there's no wall in that Canada agreement.
Yeah because we are the wall. It's much easier to be gracious and pretend to be open to all refugees when you have a safe third country agreement with your only neighbor who happens to be just as prosperous as you are. You'll notice that as soon as Haitian refugees started flooding their border once Trump was elected, Canada started sending dignitaries to Florida and other Haitian communities in the US to persuade them not to come to Canada. If Canada bordered Mexico they'd probably have a wall already.
Anonymous
03/09/2019 01:44
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:The safe third country agreement with Canada has been in place since 2004. We needed this with Mexico like yesterday. No idea why it wasn't done at the same time. This would be a huge step to stop this crisis at our border.
But wait... there's no wall in that Canada agreement.
Anonymous
03/09/2019 01:38
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
The safe third country agreement with Canada has been in place since 2004. We needed this with Mexico like yesterday. No idea why it wasn't done at the same time. This would be a huge step to stop this crisis at our border.
Anonymous
03/09/2019 01:06
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe the us should learn from Mexico on how to just make illegals keep moving north...
canada won't take them. they have a safe third country agreement with us which means you have to accept "asylum seekers" if they land on your soil first. That is why we need one of those agreements with Mexico. SO they can remain in Mexico and we can deport them back immediately when they come to the border.
+1
I find it appalling that we don't have this agreement already.
+ 1,000,000
I am the first poster.
Or can trump pull the US out of the agreement with Canada? He has already doe so with many other agreements...
Anonymous
03/09/2019 01:00
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:I find it so interesting that if Obama or Bill Clinton had proposed this wall, it would probably already have been built, with Democrats cheering in adulation. Bill Clinton especially took a very hardline, no-nonsense approach to illegal immigration. But since it was Trump's idea, it must be mocked and derided.
Uh yeah, it's called politics. Did you expect Democrats to play nice after the Republicans and their enablers spent the last 10 years pursuing their conspiracy theories like Benghazi. When you're incompetent, a compulsive liar, and most people hate you, it's hard to get what you want. I'm an independent (former R), and can't believe that 40% of Americans approve of Fox news and this idiot.
Anonymous
03/08/2019 23:57
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
I find it so interesting that if Obama or Bill Clinton had proposed this wall, it would probably already have been built, with Democrats cheering in adulation. Bill Clinton especially took a very hardline, no-nonsense approach to illegal immigration. But since it was Trump's idea, it must be mocked and derided.
Anonymous
03/08/2019 23:52
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You need to define the situation at hand, and you need to address it with actual data and information behind your proposed solutions.
"A WALL" does none of these things. That "solution" is a rhetorical device, not an actual fact-based proposal with any anticipated results, long-term or short-term. This prez f&c#ed up wrt policy, but he sure does know his base, doesn't he.
Great. What is your solution then?
So far you've just run your mouth with no substance.
+1
That's par for the course. A tangible, *actual* solution has been proposed, but it continues to be shot down - by these same people. Meanwhile, all they can do is muddle around, spewing platitudes like, "something must be done, but we must address it with actual data," blah blah blah. All the while, the ACTUAL DATA has been published in the Washington Post and NYT, but they refuse to acknowledge it because it doesn't fit their narrative. So predictable.
Anonymous
03/08/2019 23:49
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Borders are so 19th century
With this attitude northern VA will look like El Salvador in no time!
It already does, in areas.
Anhone who doesn’t know this must be very effectively insulating themselves by carefully choosing certain neighborhoods and schools.
Yep. Same is happening to moco and areas of md. Just a few weeks ago i was in md and a lady behind me was talking to her relatives from the caravan who just arrived into the US and when another relative was coming. We might as well just call it the United States of central America
Dude(tte), there are more Salvadorans in the DC area than almost anywhere else in the US, apparently almost as many as in San Salvador, itself. My family (European, not central American) collectively immigrated thanks to family immigration policies and back then near-open borders. And look what's happened: The US has SO MANY GDAM PEOPLE OF EUROPEAN ANCESTRY, we're practically took over! Who'm I kidding, not "practically," we DID. Our food, our language, our culture. We just kept making babies, taking land, imposing ourselves all over this land and its inhabitants.
Disgusting. Oh well!
You are unhinged.
-DP
Anonymous
03/08/2019 23:48
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?
And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.
I can’t even with the stupidity. Are you aware of how many billions of dollars the U.S. has given to these countries already, and many more billions are pledged for the future (by the Trump administration, btw) to “help them deal with their problems”?? How much good has this done so far?? It’s as if no money was spent at all. Nothing to show for it. And it’s somehow our fault that these countries can’t manage the money that we’ve pissed away on them? Newsflash: their people will continue coming to the border because they believe they will be admitted to this country. And the U.S. will always be attractive to them, no matter how much money we send to their countries, because liberals have made it their mission to let in as many as possible, for some inexplicable reason.
We've given central America pennies compared to Israel. And you "can't even" with the stupidity given we've thrown vastly more money at other countries at the bidding of their lobbyists? Where's your fiscal outrage over that stupidity?
You "can't even?" LMAO! Come on, do you know how stupid that statement looks?
"LMAO!" Do you know how stupid THAT expression looks?? Israel is clearly a good steward of our aid. They spend it wisely. Are there gangs in Israel? Didn't think so. Can you say the same thing about C. America? What, exactly, have they done with the billions in aid we've given them? NOTHING. They've allowed their countries to turn into cesspools of corruption and violence. And you want to send them yet *MORE* money. No thanks.
In fact, it’s Israel making all the breakthroughs in cancer research
Exactly. I have no problem sending aid to countries who will actually put it to good use.
American taxpayer dollars are funding a country which is an apartheid state where they shoot children and journalists.
American taxpayer dollars are funding multiple countries who cannot even be trusted to be good stewards of our money. Instead, they have corrupt police forces, politicians, and gangs. And yet, we still foot their bill.
Anonymous
03/08/2019 21:02
Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe the us should learn from Mexico on how to just make illegals keep moving north...
canada won't take them. they have a safe third country agreement with us which means you have to accept "asylum seekers" if they land on your soil first. That is why we need one of those agreements with Mexico. SO they can remain in Mexico and we can deport them back immediately when they come to the border.
Hmmm. When was this safe third country agreement put in place? Last admin, right?
Sounds like we need this policy agreement with Mexico. That agreement alone would help pay for The Wall since there was a problem hiring the extra CBP the Democrats have advocated.