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Anonymous wrote:If the comedian stating what Rock said had not been black, there would have been outrage. THAT is what PP is saying. Because he IS black, we are supposed to not be outraged by the words, but dig deeper into the meaning of his words.

There should not be a double-standard.

Do you really believe that Chris Rock wants white people killed? Of course he doesn't. He's just explaining to you how it feels to be black and you are butthurt about it because you are a snowflake.

I'm not the PP that wrote about it. I'm simply saying that if black folk want understanding from white folk, this isn't the way to go about it.

Anonymous wrote:If the comedian stating what Rock said had not been black, there would have been outrage. THAT is what PP is saying. Because he IS black, we are supposed to not be outraged by the words, but dig deeper into the meaning of his words.

There should not be a double-standard.

Do you really believe that Chris Rock wants white people killed? Of course he doesn't. He's just explaining to you how it feels to be black and you are butthurt about it because you are a snowflake.

Anonymous wrote:If the comedian stating what Rock said had not been black, there would have been outrage. THAT is what PP is saying. Because he IS black, we are supposed to not be outraged by the words, but dig deeper into the meaning of his words.

There should not be a double-standard.

I'm all for consistency. Can you tell me the deeper meaning of Roseanne's tweet about Jarrett or her tweet or George Soros?

Anonymous wrote:If the comedian stating what Rock said had not been black, there would have been outrage. THAT is what PP is saying. Because he IS black, we are supposed to not be outraged by the words, but dig deeper into the meaning of his words.

There should not be a double-standard.

OMG are you for real? Hint: It's not funny if Rodney Dangerfield says, take my husband, please.

If the comedian stating what Rock said had not been black, there would have been outrage. THAT is what PP is saying. Because he IS black, we are supposed to not be outraged by the words, but dig deeper into the meaning of his words.

There should not be a double-standard.

Anonymous wrote:How the hell y'all get from Rosanne to here?
Damn it seem like every thread longer than 10 pages somehow ends up on the subject of black-on-black crime.
WTF???

Because some people don't like Roseanne being called out for racism, so they need to start deflecting.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on. you know white people control the levers of power in this country, even if black ppl hold local office. NRA money, baby, that's where it all comes from, and no white republican is going to stand up to the NRA

Bullish!t. Take responsibility for the violence and crime in your own neighborhoods and stop pretending it’s everyone’s fault but your own.

This is racist thinking. All black people are responsible for anything done by any other black person? How do you know what neighborhood that poster lives in? Not all back people live in crime-filled neighborhoods.

The past few PPs have been discussing violence in black neighborhoods. Please don’t be purposely obtuse. Again I ask: what is it that blacks would like whites to do about black people killing other black people? If we speak out about it, we’re called racists. If we say and do nothing, we’re accused of ignoring the problem. What exactly should white people do about violence in black communities and why are we blamed for it? Do you have an actual answer or are you just going to continue with the PC non-answers?

WTF?! When are you going to take responsibility for white people killing each other? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF NOT ALL BLACK FOLKS LIVE TOGETHER.

No one said all blacks live together. We’re talking about neighborhoods in which there is a lot of violence, perpetuated by and against blacks. And as predicted, you have no answer for what you want white people to do about it - other than accept the blame for this violence that has nothing to do with us.

White males only kill because of mental illness.

You only know about black on black crime because that is all you hear on TV. Of course more white men kill, rape and beat their wives. In your neighborhood, when r u gonna fix that?

Oh, thanks for the laugh!! Yes, we only hear about “black on black” crime on TV. Nowhere else.
https://www.civilrightsmuseum.org/news/posts/self-destruction-a-case-study-of-violence-and-hip-hop
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/a-matter-of-black-lives/399386/
https://www.blackstarproject.org/index.php/resources/editorials/51-chicago-loses-more-black-kids-than-soldiers-in-iraq-to-gun-violence.html

How the hell y'all get from Rosanne to here?
Damn it seem like every thread longer than 10 pages somehow ends up on the subject of black-on-black crime.
WTF???

Anonymous wrote:Sure, call it white on white violence if it makes you feel better. The point is, you don’t have white people blaming *their* violence on blacks, or insisting that blacks fix it, or that blacks are somehow responsibile. Why does the black community feel whites need to take responsibility for the violence in black neighborhoods?

These are not separate problems. We are not talking about Venus and Mars. These are all American communities. The root of what Chris Rock was getting at is how there are different response to each community. He is not saying that white people are responsible for stopping violence in black communities. That is your misunderstanding. Rather, he is saying that if the white community faced the same problems, the response would be a lot different. Compare the reaction to the crack epidemic to the opioid epidemic? The first was met with enhanced police powers, increased incarceration, and a "tough on crime" approach. The second is met with sympathy and a public health approach. Completely different. Black communities don't want special treatment -- they already get "special treatment" that they would rather not have. The want the same type of response that would be give a white community.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on. you know white people control the levers of power in this country, even if black ppl hold local office. NRA money, baby, that's where it all comes from, and no white republican is going to stand up to the NRA

Bullish!t. Take responsibility for the violence and crime in your own neighborhoods and stop pretending it’s everyone’s fault but your own.

This is racist thinking. All black people are responsible for anything done by any other black person? How do you know what neighborhood that poster lives in? Not all back people live in crime-filled neighborhoods.

So is expecting whites to feel guilty for it

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. you know white people control the levers of power in this country, even if black ppl hold local office. NRA money, baby, that's where it all comes from, and no white republican is going to stand up to the NRA

Bullish!t. Take responsibility for the violence and crime in your own neighborhoods and stop pretending it’s everyone’s fault but your own.

This is racist thinking. All black people are responsible for anything done by any other black person? How do you know what neighborhood that poster lives in? Not all back people live in crime-filled neighborhoods.

The past few PPs have been discussing violence in black neighborhoods. Please don’t be purposely obtuse. Again I ask: what is it that blacks would like whites to do about black people killing other black people? If we speak out about it, we’re called racists. If we say and do nothing, we’re accused of ignoring the problem. What exactly should white people do about violence in black communities and why are we blamed for it? Do you have an actual answer or are you just going to continue with the PC non-answers?

WTF?! When are you going to take responsibility for white people killing each other? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF NOT ALL BLACK FOLKS LIVE TOGETHER.

No one said all blacks live together. We’re talking about neighborhoods in which there is a lot of violence, perpetuated by and against blacks. And as predicted, you have no answer for what you want white people to do about it - other than accept the blame for this violence that has nothing to do with us.

White males only kill because of mental illness.

You only know about black on black crime because that is all you hear on TV. Of course more white men kill, rape and beat their wives. In your neighborhood, when r u gonna fix that?

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. you know white people control the levers of power in this country, even if black ppl hold local office. NRA money, baby, that's where it all comes from, and no white republican is going to stand up to the NRA

Bullish!t. Take responsibility for the violence and crime in your own neighborhoods and stop pretending it’s everyone’s fault but your own.

This is racist thinking. All black people are responsible for anything done by any other black person? How do you know what neighborhood that poster lives in? Not all back people live in crime-filled neighborhoods.

The past few PPs have been discussing violence in black neighborhoods. Please don’t be purposely obtuse. Again I ask: what is it that blacks would like whites to do about black people killing other black people? If we speak out about it, we’re called racists. If we say and do nothing, we’re accused of ignoring the problem. What exactly should white people do about violence in black communities and why are we blamed for it? Do you have an actual answer or are you just going to continue with the PC non-answers?

WTF?! When are you going to take responsibility for white people killing each other? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF NOT ALL BLACK FOLKS LIVE TOGETHER.

Last I checked, we DO take responsibility. We’re certainly not blaming other racial groups for our faults.

Um, yes, this whole "I'm an opiod addict/on disability because the good jobs went to immigrants" is 100 percent blaming.

And that has what to do with violent neighborhoods? Oh, right - nothing. But nice whataboutism.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. you know white people control the levers of power in this country, even if black ppl hold local office. NRA money, baby, that's where it all comes from, and no white republican is going to stand up to the NRA

Bullish!t. Take responsibility for the violence and crime in your own neighborhoods and stop pretending it’s everyone’s fault but your own.

This is racist thinking. All black people are responsible for anything done by any other black person? How do you know what neighborhood that poster lives in? Not all back people live in crime-filled neighborhoods.

The past few PPs have been discussing violence in black neighborhoods. Please don’t be purposely obtuse. Again I ask: what is it that blacks would like whites to do about black people killing other black people? If we speak out about it, we’re called racists. If we say and do nothing, we’re accused of ignoring the problem. What exactly should white people do about violence in black communities and why are we blamed for it? Do you have an actual answer or are you just going to continue with the PC non-answers?

WTF?! When are you going to take responsibility for white people killing each other? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF NOT ALL BLACK FOLKS LIVE TOGETHER.

No one said all blacks live together. We’re talking about neighborhoods in which there is a lot of violence, perpetuated by and against blacks. And as predicted, you have no answer for what you want white people to do about it - other than accept the blame for this violence that has nothing to do with us.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. you know white people control the levers of power in this country, even if black ppl hold local office. NRA money, baby, that's where it all comes from, and no white republican is going to stand up to the NRA

Bullish!t. Take responsibility for the violence and crime in your own neighborhoods and stop pretending it’s everyone’s fault but your own.

This is racist thinking. All black people are responsible for anything done by any other black person? How do you know what neighborhood that poster lives in? Not all back people live in crime-filled neighborhoods.

The past few PPs have been discussing violence in black neighborhoods. Please don’t be purposely obtuse. Again I ask: what is it that blacks would like whites to do about black people killing other black people? If we speak out about it, we’re called racists. If we say and do nothing, we’re accused of ignoring the problem. What exactly should white people do about violence in black communities and why are we blamed for it? Do you have an actual answer or are you just going to continue with the PC non-answers?

I don't agree that violence in a black neighborhood is a black problem. Nor would I agree that violence in a white neighborhood is a white problem. We are all in this together. There is not an easy answer about what should be done about gun violence in black communities because it is part and parcel of general socio-economic disparities that affect those communities. These neighborhoods need massive investment, yet too often such investments result in dislocation of current residents which destroys communities and uproots families. Both Republican and Democratic leaders, both black and white, have failed these communities. A good first step, minor though it may be, is to acknowledge the humanity of those who live in these neighborhoods. They should not be written off as simply blacks killed by blacks and "not our problem". Certainly I am as guilty as anyone else of that sort of thinking, but admitting the problem is the first part of the solution.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. you know white people control the levers of power in this country, even if black ppl hold local office. NRA money, baby, that's where it all comes from, and no white republican is going to stand up to the NRA

Bullish!t. Take responsibility for the violence and crime in your own neighborhoods and stop pretending it’s everyone’s fault but your own.

This is racist thinking. All black people are responsible for anything done by any other black person? How do you know what neighborhood that poster lives in? Not all back people live in crime-filled neighborhoods.

The past few PPs have been discussing violence in black neighborhoods. Please don’t be purposely obtuse. Again I ask: what is it that blacks would like whites to do about black people killing other black people? If we speak out about it, we’re called racists. If we say and do nothing, we’re accused of ignoring the problem. What exactly should white people do about violence in black communities and why are we blamed for it? Do you have an actual answer or are you just going to continue with the PC non-answers?

WTF?! When are you going to take responsibility for white people killing each other? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF NOT ALL BLACK FOLKS LIVE TOGETHER.

Last I checked, we DO take responsibility. We’re certainly not blaming other racial groups for our faults.

Um, yes, this whole "I'm an opiod addict/on disability because the good jobs went to immigrants" is 100 percent blaming.