Anonymous wrote:It is going to get worse before it gets better. In 2017, after being sued, the SAT and ACT both automatically accept whatever accommodations are on a 504plan or IEP or whatever plan a private school uses. [b]It really gives an advantage to wealthy parents who pay privately for testing[b] and then threaten to sue the school unless their kid gets a 504 plan if in public. In private school why wouldn't schools want to have as many students as possible get extra time. There average SAT will be higher and their students will get into better colleges. The SAT did a study that showed extra time is beneficial for students who are higher scoring with and without disabilities. So everyone who is doing well to begin with will do better. It doesn't benefit any lower scoring students sho just haven't mastered the material to begin with.

Anonymous wrote:It is going to get worse before it gets better. In 2017, after being sued, the SAT and ACT both automatically accept whatever accommodations are on a 504plan or IEP or whatever plan a private school uses. It really gives an advantage to wealthy parents who pay privately for testing and then threaten to sue the school unless their kid gets a 504 plan if in public. In private school why wouldn't schools want to have as many students as possible get extra time. There average SAT will be higher and their students will get into better colleges. The SAT did a study that showed extra time is beneficial for students who are higher scoring with and without disabilities. So everyone who is doing well to begin with will do better. It doesn't benefit any lower scoring students sho just haven't mastered the material to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to get worse before it gets better. In 2017, after being sued, the SAT and ACT both automatically accept whatever accommodations are on a 504plan or IEP or whatever plan a private school uses. It really gives an advantage to wealthy parents who pay privately for testing and then threaten to sue the school unless their kid gets a 504 plan if in public. In private school why wouldn't schools want to have as many students as possible get extra time. There average SAT will be higher and their students will get into better colleges. The SAT did a study that showed extra time is beneficial for students who are higher scoring with and without disabilities. So everyone who is doing well to begin with will do better. It doesn't benefit any lower scoring students sho just haven't mastered the material to begin with.

I feel like the barrier is still pretty high to get an IEP. Not sure about a 504 or private school
accommodations. Still, I am looking forward to the lawsuit about the racial disparities this policy causes ...

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Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

"...it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people who game the system to get advantages for their children at the expense of others."

Fixed it for ya!

Anonymous wrote:It is going to get worse before it gets better. In 2017, after being sued, the SAT and ACT both automatically accept whatever accommodations are on a 504plan or IEP or whatever plan a private school uses. It really gives an advantage to wealthy parents who pay privately for testing and then threaten to sue the school unless their kid gets a 504 plan if in public. In private school why wouldn't schools want to have as many students as possible get extra time. There average SAT will be higher and their students will get into better colleges. The SAT did a study that showed extra time is beneficial for students who are higher scoring with and without disabilities. So everyone who is doing well to begin with will do better. It doesn't benefit any lower scoring students sho just haven't mastered the material to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

And women. And people of color. And non-Americans. And LGBTQ individuals. And Muslims. And Asian students— there is a lot of hatred in this country right now. A lot of people blaming others for their own shortcomings. People with disabilities are just the latest in a long line of people being blamed because white men have to compete, rather than just being handed things for being white men. The amount of whining and victimhood has just exploded in the last year or so.

When your kid puts in the amount of time and effort that my 2e TJ kid puts in and does not get into similarly impressive colleges, I will believe you have a point. Until then, throw out the XBox, delete social media, and tell you kid they will have to regularly study 10-15 hours over the weekend and until after midnight during the week, in part because they don’t get home from extracurriculars until 8:30. Because that is how my kid will get into a top college. Not because of extra 1/2 hour on the math section of the SAT.

And if this is not the high school experience you want for your kid, fine. That’s fair. But don’t expect them to get into a top college ahead of kids who are putting in the sweat equity.

I love it! Now people who question giving extra test time to students with anxiety are racist, homophobic and sexist!

All I can say is that a hit dog hollers.

Anonymous wrote:What concerns me from a related article is the statement that wealthier students are more likely to receive accommodations than poor students.

What happens when these kids graduate college? Is an employer going to give a person who takes twice as long to do something the same salary as someone who meets deadlines?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

And women. And people of color. And non-Americans. And LGBTQ individuals. And Muslims. And Asian students— there is a lot of hatred in this country right now. A lot of people blaming others for their own shortcomings. People with disabilities are just the latest in a long line of people being blamed because white men have to compete, rather than just being handed things for being white men. The amount of whining and victimhood has just exploded in the last year or so.

When your kid puts in the amount of time and effort that my 2e TJ kid puts in and does not get into similarly impressive colleges, I will believe you have a point. Until then, throw out the XBox, delete social media, and tell you kid they will have to regularly study 10-15 hours over the weekend and until after midnight during the week, in part because they don’t get home from extracurriculars until 8:30. Because that is how my kid will get into a top college. Not because of extra 1/2 hour on the math section of the SAT.

And if this is not the high school experience you want for your kid, fine. That’s fair. But don’t expect them to get into a top college ahead of kids who are putting in the sweat equity.

I hope that you realize that top colleges don't pick students on the basis of SATs and GPAs and standard ECs alone. They quite possibly will be picking top swimmers, residents of North Dakota and legacies first, even though they might sometimes have lower scores than your kid. Many TJ kids with high scores who have put in their sweat equity aren't heading for the ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

And women. And people of color. And non-Americans. And LGBTQ individuals. And Muslims. And Asian students— there is a lot of hatred in this country right now. A lot of people blaming others for their own shortcomings. People with disabilities are just the latest in a long line of people being blamed because white men have to compete, rather than just being handed things for being white men. The amount of whining and victimhood has just exploded in the last year or so.

When your kid puts in the amount of time and effort that my 2e TJ kid puts in and does not get into similarly impressive colleges, I will believe you have a point. Until then, throw out the XBox, delete social media, and tell you kid they will have to regularly study 10-15 hours over the weekend and until after midnight during the week, in part because they don’t get home from extracurriculars until 8:30. Because that is how my kid will get into a top college. Not because of extra 1/2 hour on the math section of the SAT.

And if this is not the high school experience you want for your kid, fine. That’s fair. But don’t expect them to get into a top college ahead of kids who are putting in the sweat equity.

Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

Yes, there are horrible people in this thred bragging about their children cheating the system instead of accepting their snowflakes are a disappointment

Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you may find this hard to believe but it's not as easy as you think to get accommodations on the ACT and SAT. I'm the PP whose daughter has abnormal eye tracking and low processing. She is in a special program at her high school that provides her with the support she needs to do well in college prep courses.

The program director told us to be prepared to be turned down for ACT/SAT accommodations despite her IEP and other documentation. She said the bar is very high, most get turned down - however, she will then file an appeal and provide additional documentation and we cross our fingers that is is accepted by ACT/SAT.

She felt our daughter has a good chance of getting accommodations on an appeal, but not to count on it for they routinely turn down kids that she feels really should get it. So, rest assured, they are not handing out extra hours like candy to anyone who asks or provides them with a minimum of documentation of a vague problem.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some really horrible people on this thread. God, I hope there are some sock puppets, cause it is hard to believe that so many people feel this way about people with disabilities.

And women. And people of color. And non-Americans. And LGBTQ individuals. And Muslims. And Asian students— there is a lot of hatred in this country right now. A lot of people blaming others for their own shortcomings. People with disabilities are just the latest in a long line of people being blamed because white men have to compete, rather than just being handed things for being white men. The amount of whining and victimhood has just exploded in the last year or so.

When your kid puts in the amount of time and effort that my 2e TJ kid puts in and does not get into similarly impressive colleges, I will believe you have a point. Until then, throw out the XBox, delete social media, and tell you kid they will have to regularly study 10-15 hours over the weekend and until after midnight during the week, in part because they don’t get home from extracurriculars until 8:30. Because that is how my kid will get into a top college. Not because of extra 1/2 hour on the math section of the SAT.

And if this is not the high school experience you want for your kid, fine. That’s fair. But don’t expect them to get into a top college ahead of kids who are putting in the sweat equity.