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Anonymous wrote:what do the u12 u11 boys teams team look like for next year at Braddock road ? any idea how many teams they are fielding that age? any feedback on particular coaches there?

We had a few 07s and 08s that left BRYC last year and assume they will try to recruit from them again. BRYC, like many Fairfax clubs is under a ton of pressure from neighboring clubs. I don't think they should have left CCL, because they really did leave a lot of question marks for the younger age groups.

Anonymous wrote:what do the u12 u11 boys teams team look like for next year at Braddock road ? any idea how many teams they are fielding that age? any feedback on particular coaches there?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question about ASA tryouts (2009 Boys, if it matters). For the kids who make it through the "cattle call" tryouts, does ASA assign them a color team before the deadline to accept/decline the ASA travel roster spot?

DS tried out (with ASA) last year, made the first cut into the travel program, and attended the "sorting" tryout (I don't know what it's called, but the session for all the kids who had made it through the cattle call tryouts, and were now being sorted into the color teams). We were on the fence between doing travel and doing ADP, and ultimately decided on ADP. We declined the travel offer a couple of days before the deadline for decisions, and before DS had been assigned to a color team.

Now we're back in the same travel vs. ADP quandary again this year. DS has had a wonderful ADP experience, but is still interested in travel. If he were to make it through the travel tryouts, it might be helpful to know what team he would be on before deciding whether to accept the roster spot (and forgo ADP). Perhaps the weakest travel team isn't a big enough upgrade over his (rather good) ADP team to justify the increased cost and time commitment?

Does anyone know how this process works? We short-circuited it last year, and didn't get to see how the order of operations works at the tail end of the tryout process. Any thoughts on the relative merits of lower travel teams versus ADP?

Wow, if that’s how your club works, I wish you the best finding a new one. What team intentionally weakens a whole squad with weak players because they are holdovers? Is that common? Or maybe there’s just not as much separation in kids as some believe? Or maybe coaches are seeing different positives?

Any age after U9 - you will be told the team color with offer.

Only U9s go through the second sorting/placement tryout.

I assume your kid is a U10 this year.

Since you are mentioning ADP I assume this is Arlington—guessing this isn’t ASA (Alexandria also ASA) or Annapolis.

Thanks, PP! Yes, I am asking about Arlington. Sorry for the confusion caused by mentioning ASA (I'm obviously new here!).

DS will be U10 this year, so thanks for explaining how things will differ from the U9 tryout process. It's good to know that the team color will come with the offer. I wonder how good a job the coaches do of "sorting" and placing the kids on to color teams during the tryouts, while also weeding out all of the kids who won't make the travel program at all? I suppose most of the kids who make it through the tryouts will already have played U9, so the coaches will already have a good idea of which color team they will assign them.

Any thoughts on how worthwhile the training/playing experience is on the lower Arlington teams?

Any coming in from ADP at u10 will make blue at best, probably black if good, and the rest gold/silver. ADP is a great program, unless you are red/white level.

One other factor to consider - ADP is not a long term program, so eventually if you child wants to continue to play competitive soccer you will need a new plan. Unless your kid is a super star, it will be hard to break into an Arlington Travel team at that point b/c that is also the year they go from 4 to 6 teams (with addition of DA).

ADP adding U12. Many drop at U13 anyway so this is a non-issue. Plus hard to break in unless you did so at U9. If you did not break into red/white at U9 stick with ADP and enjoy soccer. PP wrong and last year all ADP boys went no higher then gold/silver. Good luck.

I just have to comment. This is so ridiculous. The tryout banding, field placement--where kids aren't given a chance at all.

I know two kids that are foreign-born my husband coached in Rec that are some of the best players, better than a lot of the kids from the team that placed fairly high at U9 tryouts. Their parents kept them in ADP for the sole fact that they didn't want to do the American thing of driving all over creation. They play lots of pick-up soccer in their free time. These kids aren't even given a remote chance if they decide to tryout for travel later because if you come from ADP then you can only be placed on the lower teams. All of the career-civil service players ahead of you will remain status quo. It's fairly the same for any kid that was misplaced at U9 tryouts. Good luck trying to jump 6 teams.

I am glad they are adding an age group for ADP because there are many people that love soccer that don't want the horseshit of driving to VA Beach or West Virginia for a game.

Yes- this is not specific to this Club. It's like this at Clubs all across the region which is why we never amount to anything in soccer. People just give up and don't want to deal with it.

The addition of all of these leagues with even more travel has gotten so far out of hand. More leagues, more dilution, more chances for good players whose parents can't support that kind of travel to be left behind. We are make it more exclusive, not less, which US Youth soccer always claims in the goal...yeah, right.

Vent over.

+1 Problem mainly parents. If "unproven" ADP player displaces someone 2-4 teams up - even if they deserve to play there - parents complain, the staff never here's the end of it. Movement? is one team per year. By U13, you can go from Gold to Red, but uphill battle. Clubs don't care about placements before U13. They know cream will rise - not worth battling parents by moving some foreign hot shot from ADP to red, unless that kid is a little Messi. But 99% aren't.

Your "foreign" hot shot comment is quite concerning to me and at a minimum I think you should be banned from this board.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question about ASA tryouts (2009 Boys, if it matters). For the kids who make it through the "cattle call" tryouts, does ASA assign them a color team before the deadline to accept/decline the ASA travel roster spot?

DS tried out (with ASA) last year, made the first cut into the travel program, and attended the "sorting" tryout (I don't know what it's called, but the session for all the kids who had made it through the cattle call tryouts, and were now being sorted into the color teams). We were on the fence between doing travel and doing ADP, and ultimately decided on ADP. We declined the travel offer a couple of days before the deadline for decisions, and before DS had been assigned to a color team.

Now we're back in the same travel vs. ADP quandary again this year. DS has had a wonderful ADP experience, but is still interested in travel. If he were to make it through the travel tryouts, it might be helpful to know what team he would be on before deciding whether to accept the roster spot (and forgo ADP). Perhaps the weakest travel team isn't a big enough upgrade over his (rather good) ADP team to justify the increased cost and time commitment?

Does anyone know how this process works? We short-circuited it last year, and didn't get to see how the order of operations works at the tail end of the tryout process. Any thoughts on the relative merits of lower travel teams versus ADP?

Wow, if that’s how your club works, I wish you the best finding a new one. What team intentionally weakens a whole squad with weak players because they are holdovers? Is that common? Or maybe there’s just not as much separation in kids as some believe? Or maybe coaches are seeing different positives?

Any age after U9 - you will be told the team color with offer.

Only U9s go through the second sorting/placement tryout.

I assume your kid is a U10 this year.

Since you are mentioning ADP I assume this is Arlington—guessing this isn’t ASA (Alexandria also ASA) or Annapolis.

Thanks, PP! Yes, I am asking about Arlington. Sorry for the confusion caused by mentioning ASA (I'm obviously new here!).

DS will be U10 this year, so thanks for explaining how things will differ from the U9 tryout process. It's good to know that the team color will come with the offer. I wonder how good a job the coaches do of "sorting" and placing the kids on to color teams during the tryouts, while also weeding out all of the kids who won't make the travel program at all? I suppose most of the kids who make it through the tryouts will already have played U9, so the coaches will already have a good idea of which color team they will assign them.

Any thoughts on how worthwhile the training/playing experience is on the lower Arlington teams?

Any coming in from ADP at u10 will make blue at best, probably black if good, and the rest gold/silver. ADP is a great program, unless you are red/white level.

One other factor to consider - ADP is not a long term program, so eventually if you child wants to continue to play competitive soccer you will need a new plan. Unless your kid is a super star, it will be hard to break into an Arlington Travel team at that point b/c that is also the year they go from 4 to 6 teams (with addition of DA).

ADP adding U12. Many drop at U13 anyway so this is a non-issue. Plus hard to break in unless you did so at U9. If you did not break into red/white at U9 stick with ADP and enjoy soccer. PP wrong and last year all ADP boys went no higher then gold/silver. Good luck.

I just have to comment. This is so ridiculous. The tryout banding, field placement--where kids aren't given a chance at all.

I know two kids that are foreign-born my husband coached in Rec that are some of the best players, better than a lot of the kids from the team that placed fairly high at U9 tryouts. Their parents kept them in ADP for the sole fact that they didn't want to do the American thing of driving all over creation. They play lots of pick-up soccer in their free time. These kids aren't even given a remote chance if they decide to tryout for travel later because if you come from ADP then you can only be placed on the lower teams. All of the career-civil service players ahead of you will remain status quo. It's fairly the same for any kid that was misplaced at U9 tryouts. Good luck trying to jump 6 teams.

I am glad they are adding an age group for ADP because there are many people that love soccer that don't want the horseshit of driving to VA Beach or West Virginia for a game.

Yes- this is not specific to this Club. It's like this at Clubs all across the region which is why we never amount to anything in soccer. People just give up and don't want to deal with it.

The addition of all of these leagues with even more travel has gotten so far out of hand. More leagues, more dilution, more chances for good players whose parents can't support that kind of travel to be left behind. We are make it more exclusive, not less, which US Youth soccer always claims in the goal...yeah, right.

Vent over.

+1 Problem mainly parents. If "unproven" ADP player displaces someone 2-4 teams up - even if they deserve to play there - parents complain, the staff never here's the end of it. Movement? is one team per year. By U13, you can go from Gold to Red, but uphill battle. Clubs don't care about placements before U13. They know cream will rise - not worth battling parents by moving some foreign hot shot from ADP to red, unless that kid is a little Messi. But 99% aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question about ASA tryouts (2009 Boys, if it matters). For the kids who make it through the "cattle call" tryouts, does ASA assign them a color team before the deadline to accept/decline the ASA travel roster spot?

DS tried out (with ASA) last year, made the first cut into the travel program, and attended the "sorting" tryout (I don't know what it's called, but the session for all the kids who had made it through the cattle call tryouts, and were now being sorted into the color teams). We were on the fence between doing travel and doing ADP, and ultimately decided on ADP. We declined the travel offer a couple of days before the deadline for decisions, and before DS had been assigned to a color team.

Now we're back in the same travel vs. ADP quandary again this year. DS has had a wonderful ADP experience, but is still interested in travel. If he were to make it through the travel tryouts, it might be helpful to know what team he would be on before deciding whether to accept the roster spot (and forgo ADP). Perhaps the weakest travel team isn't a big enough upgrade over his (rather good) ADP team to justify the increased cost and time commitment?

Does anyone know how this process works? We short-circuited it last year, and didn't get to see how the order of operations works at the tail end of the tryout process. Any thoughts on the relative merits of lower travel teams versus ADP?

Wow, if that’s how your club works, I wish you the best finding a new one. What team intentionally weakens a whole squad with weak players because they are holdovers? Is that common? Or maybe there’s just not as much separation in kids as some believe? Or maybe coaches are seeing different positives?

Any age after U9 - you will be told the team color with offer.

Only U9s go through the second sorting/placement tryout.

I assume your kid is a U10 this year.

Since you are mentioning ADP I assume this is Arlington—guessing this isn’t ASA (Alexandria also ASA) or Annapolis.

Thanks, PP! Yes, I am asking about Arlington. Sorry for the confusion caused by mentioning ASA (I'm obviously new here!).

DS will be U10 this year, so thanks for explaining how things will differ from the U9 tryout process. It's good to know that the team color will come with the offer. I wonder how good a job the coaches do of "sorting" and placing the kids on to color teams during the tryouts, while also weeding out all of the kids who won't make the travel program at all? I suppose most of the kids who make it through the tryouts will already have played U9, so the coaches will already have a good idea of which color team they will assign them.

Any thoughts on how worthwhile the training/playing experience is on the lower Arlington teams?

Any coming in from ADP at u10 will make blue at best, probably black if good, and the rest gold/silver. ADP is a great program, unless you are red/white level.

One other factor to consider - ADP is not a long term program, so eventually if you child wants to continue to play competitive soccer you will need a new plan. Unless your kid is a super star, it will be hard to break into an Arlington Travel team at that point b/c that is also the year they go from 4 to 6 teams (with addition of DA).

ADP adding U12. Many drop at U13 anyway so this is a non-issue. Plus hard to break in unless you did so at U9. If you did not break into red/white at U9 stick with ADP and enjoy soccer. PP wrong and last year all ADP boys went no higher then gold/silver. Good luck.

I just have to comment. This is so ridiculous. The tryout banding, field placement--where kids aren't given a chance at all.

I know two kids that are foreign-born my husband coached in Rec that are some of the best players, better than a lot of the kids from the team that placed fairly high at U9 tryouts. Their parents kept them in ADP for the sole fact that they didn't want to do the American thing of driving all over creation. They play lots of pick-up soccer in their free time. These kids aren't even given a remote chance if they decide to tryout for travel later because if you come from ADP then you can only be placed on the lower teams. All of the career-civil service players ahead of you will remain status quo. It's fairly the same for any kid that was misplaced at U9 tryouts. Good luck trying to jump 6 teams.

I am glad they are adding an age group for ADP because there are many people that love soccer that don't want the horseshit of driving to VA Beach or West Virginia for a game.

Yes- this is not specific to this Club. It's like this at Clubs all across the region which is why we never amount to anything in soccer. People just give up and don't want to deal with it.

The addition of all of these leagues with even more travel has gotten so far out of hand. More leagues, more dilution, more chances for good players whose parents can't support that kind of travel to be left behind. We are make it more exclusive, not less, which US Youth soccer always claims in the goal...yeah, right.

Vent over.

+1 Problem mainly parents. If "unproven" ADP player displaces someone 2-4 teams up - even if they deserve to play there - parents complain, the staff never here's the end of it. Movement? is one team per year. By U13, you can go from Gold to Red, but uphill battle. Clubs don't care about placements before U13. They know cream will rise - not worth battling parents by moving some foreign hot shot from ADP to red, unless that kid is a little Messi. But 99% aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:^^well-known Type A Arlington parent strategy.

Start ‘em in travel in first/second grade to get ‘em seen.

anyone see the k'garteners at the girls u9 tryouts?!

Please tell us you are joking.

Dead serious. I am waiting for preschoolers to start showing up next year.

These people want a 'red team' designation so bad and they know if their kid starts travel early they will drop down later to age group and the red team. Of course, totally ignoring the fact that this most likely isn't age-appropriate given the structure and schedule for kids that age. Even in Spain, kids that age practice no more than 60 minutes at a time...and 2 days per week...going to 3 days at age 9. But--hey---this is America. We are better than anyone.

look for the tryout #s in the 500s

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Anonymous wrote:New parent here of a 2010 DD. She wants to try out for VYS this weekend. I see they have three dates. There have been lots of discussions about the other tryouts but should we expect the same with VYS? Massive amounts of kids and what all of you referred to as a cattle call? DD seems decent to me but I don’t have a soccer background and it doesn’t appear to me that she stands out more than anyone else in the house games.

Vienna girls side is somewhat less of a cattle call than the boys or Arlington but you definitely want to attend all try-outs and work hard. Arrive early to warm up. Wear a white shirt. Tell her to work hard and be aggressive so she gets noticed. Don't volunteer to be a goalie if she's not a goalie, pay attention and follow directions. Be enthusiastic, be serious, don't giggle and spend time drinking lots of water or talking. Most but not all girls make a team. Good luck!

Thanks. I saw they listed a white shirt on their website. She has some with writing. Do I need to go and buy a plain white shirt?

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Anonymous wrote:New parent here of a 2010 DD. She wants to try out for VYS this weekend. I see they have three dates. There have been lots of discussions about the other tryouts but should we expect the same with VYS? Massive amounts of kids and what all of you referred to as a cattle call? DD seems decent to me but I don’t have a soccer background and it doesn’t appear to me that she stands out more than anyone else in the house games.

Vienna girls side is somewhat less of a cattle call than the boys or Arlington but you definitely want to attend all try-outs and work hard. Arrive early to warm up. Wear a white shirt. Tell her to work hard and be aggressive so she gets noticed. Don't volunteer to be a goalie if she's not a goalie, pay attention and follow directions. Be enthusiastic, be serious, don't giggle and spend time drinking lots of water or talking. Most but not all girls make a team. Good luck!

Anonymous wrote:Just saw on social media DC United advertising Academy Tryouts and charging $25. As a pro club they should be scouting local talent and holding try-outs for local talent free of charge. That's not even to speak about the fact that they are one of the last if not the only pro club academy that charges players to play. So WRONG on so many levels but they know parents are just willing to pay to be associated with the name. No wonder they can't put top quality teams. It's only for those that can afford it. DC United could be one of the best academies in the country if it were free to play with a lot of the local talent. SMH. They are a joke.

Anonymous wrote:New parent here of a 2010 DD. She wants to try out for VYS this weekend. I see they have three dates. There have been lots of discussions about the other tryouts but should we expect the same with VYS? Massive amounts of kids and what all of you referred to as a cattle call? DD seems decent to me but I don’t have a soccer background and it doesn’t appear to me that she stands out more than anyone else in the house games.