Anonymous
02/24/2018 10:59
Subject: Re:8 hours of screaming on a flight
Tldr. By any chance did that child have special needs? It can sometimes be very difficult to fly with an autistic child. The video looks like something similar that might occur.
Anonymous
02/23/2018 22:43
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This video bears the image of a child and his name. It should not have been posted to YouTube. It should not have been run by news outlets. It is not "news". The mom made a grave error in flying unprepared. Maybe you would have done better, but try kindness and compassion. Even when someone screws up. Try to be the light, not the darkness.
I may have been able to be “the light” on a 2 hour flight to Orlando that’s chock full of families heading to Disney. But this is beyond bad behavior or normal kid stuff. It’s also not an “error” — this woman knew what she was setting everyone up for. So here, she deserves every single negative reaction that she gets.
I agree. I've been on short flights with children who are upset and crying. Sometimes my own, sometimes other people's kids. In those instances, I'm happy to help a fellow passenger by spending a few minutes entertaining their child, playing peek-a-boo, sharing toys, etc. No problem at all. But 8 hrs.??? Uh, no.
Anonymous
02/23/2018 22:40
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Yea, I'm really wondering how legit this video and the captions are. No one else has come forward to corroborate this guys story that it was a full 8 hours of mayhem. No doubt it was a sh*tshow for at least a few minutes of the flight but I can't find anything from anyone else on the flight saying "yea it was hell for 8 hours straight and the kid never stopped!" Was it really the full flight or just a really bad 20 minutes? Or 10 minutes?
Did you even watch the entire video? The woman at the end, as they're deplaning, actually says, "Oh my God!! Eight hours of screaming!" And the passengers around her are all furious. You actually think he made up the fact that it was 8 hrs. of screaming? And no one - not the parents or the airline or any of the crew and passengers - have come forward to contest his account? Of course it was real.
Anonymous
02/22/2018 17:24
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This video bears the image of a child and his name. It should not have been posted to YouTube. It should not have been run by news outlets. It is not "news". The mom made a grave error in flying unprepared. Maybe you would have done better, but try kindness and compassion. Even when someone screws up. Try to be the light, not the darkness.
I may have been able to be “the light” on a 2 hour flight to Orlando that’s chock full of families heading to Disney. But this is beyond bad behavior or normal kid stuff. It’s also not an “error” — this woman knew what she was setting everyone up for. So here, she deserves every single negative reaction that she gets.
Let me guess, you are also a "Christian"
??
Are you literally crazy?
Anonymous
02/22/2018 17:20
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Yea, I'm really wondering how legit this video and the captions are. No one else has come forward to corroborate this guys story that it was a full 8 hours of mayhem. No doubt it was a sh*tshow for at least a few minutes of the flight but I can't find anything from anyone else on the flight saying "yea it was hell for 8 hours straight and the kid never stopped!" Was it really the full flight or just a really bad 20 minutes? Or 10 minutes?
But neither has anyone come forward to contest his account, including the mother or the airline. I think it’s pretty likely he’s telling the truth.
+1
We have all seen these kind of self absorbed parents: "I have to listen to it day in and day out, eight hours is nothing!" If you have not, maybe you are one?
Riiiiiiight, anyone who thinks maybe this guy is exaggerating (since NO ONE is backing up his claims) must be
a self absorbed parent that doesn't do anything to control their kid in public.
Sure thing, Francis.
If he is exaggerating, why wouldn’t the airline or the mother or ANYONE say so?
x10000
THIS. A-hole self absorbed parents. Everyone hates them.
Anonymous
02/22/2018 17:11
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Yea, I'm really wondering how legit this video and the captions are. No one else has come forward to corroborate this guys story that it was a full 8 hours of mayhem. No doubt it was a sh*tshow for at least a few minutes of the flight but I can't find anything from anyone else on the flight saying "yea it was hell for 8 hours straight and the kid never stopped!" Was it really the full flight or just a really bad 20 minutes? Or 10 minutes?
But neither has anyone come forward to contest his account, including the mother or the airline. I think it’s pretty likely he’s telling the truth.
+1
We have all seen these kind of self absorbed parents: "I have to listen to it day in and day out, eight hours is nothing!" If you have not, maybe you are one?
Riiiiiiight, anyone who thinks maybe this guy is exaggerating (since NO ONE is backing up his claims) must be
a self absorbed parent that doesn't do anything to control their kid in public.
Sure thing, Francis.
If he is exaggerating, why wouldn’t the airline or the mother or ANYONE say so?
Anonymous
02/22/2018 15:25
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Yea, I'm really wondering how legit this video and the captions are. No one else has come forward to corroborate this guys story that it was a full 8 hours of mayhem. No doubt it was a sh*tshow for at least a few minutes of the flight but I can't find anything from anyone else on the flight saying "yea it was hell for 8 hours straight and the kid never stopped!" Was it really the full flight or just a really bad 20 minutes? Or 10 minutes?
But neither has anyone come forward to contest his account, including the mother or the airline. I think it’s pretty likely he’s telling the truth.
+1
We have all seen these kind of self absorbed parents: "I have to listen to it day in and day out, eight hours is nothing!" If you have not, maybe you are one?
Riiiiiiight, anyone who thinks maybe this guy is exaggerating (since NO ONE is backing up his claims) must be a self absorbed parent that doesn't do anything to control their kid in public.
Sure thing, Francis.
Anonymous
02/22/2018 15:23
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This video bears the image of a child and his name. It should not have been posted to YouTube. It should not have been run by news outlets. It is not "news". The mom made a grave error in flying unprepared. Maybe you would have done better, but try kindness and compassion. Even when someone screws up. Try to be the light, not the darkness.
I may have been able to be “the light” on a 2 hour flight to Orlando that’s chock full of families heading to Disney. But this is beyond bad behavior or normal kid stuff. It’s also not an “error” — this woman knew what she was setting everyone up for. So here, she deserves every single negative reaction that she gets.
Let me guess, you are also a "Christian"
Why did you pick "Christian?"
Anonymous
02/22/2018 15:17
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:it was pretty obvious that the child was special needs. he didn't seem to have any words.
Yes, and the other was aware of this BEFORE boarding the plane. Hopefully the result of the video is that she won’t fly with him again, and others will think twice before doing so. I’m glad the video was shared.
Its public transportation. Kids with special needs are part of the public. They have just as much of a right to be there as you do.
Not if they're a public disturbance, especially for an extended period of time (that goes for everyone - special needs or otherwise).
+1
+2
You buy a ticket for a seat on a plane. You aren't guaranteed a ride free from disturbances. Kids with SNs are part of society and when they are this young, some can be extremely difficult. Don't like it? Too bad.
You aren't guaranteed a flight at all.
A flight is NOT "public transportation". Aviation is a private industry. There are rules to try to ensure passenger safety, but ultimately the airlines have a code of conduct and can make their own specific rules.
And once they realize that people won't put up with this crap, they will follow the money.
Don't like it? Too bad. Spend that energy parenting your kid instead of just inflicting them on everyone else.
???
Anonymous
02/22/2018 15:10
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:it was pretty obvious that the child was special needs. he didn't seem to have any words.
Yes, and the other was aware of this BEFORE boarding the plane. Hopefully the result of the video is that she won’t fly with him again, and others will think twice before doing so. I’m glad the video was shared.
Its public transportation. Kids with special needs are part of the public. They have just as much of a right to be there as you do.
Not if they're a public disturbance, especially for an extended period of time (that goes for everyone - special needs or otherwise).
+1
+2
You buy a ticket for a seat on a plane. You aren't guaranteed a ride free from disturbances. Kids with SNs are part of society and when they are this young, some can be extremely difficult. Don't like it? Too bad.
You aren't guaranteed a flight at all.
A flight is NOT "public transportation". Aviation is a private industry. There are rules to try to ensure passenger safety, but ultimately the airlines have a code of conduct and can make their own specific rules.
And once they realize that people won't put up with this crap, they will follow the money.
Don't like it? Too bad. Spend that energy parenting your kid instead of just inflicting them on everyone else.
Anonymous
02/22/2018 10:54
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This video bears the image of a child and his name. It should not have been posted to YouTube. It should not have been run by news outlets. It is not "news". The mom made a grave error in flying unprepared. Maybe you would have done better, but try kindness and compassion. Even when someone screws up. Try to be the light, not the darkness.
I may have been able to be “the light” on a 2 hour flight to Orlando that’s chock full of families heading to Disney. But this is beyond bad behavior or normal kid stuff. It’s also not an “error” — this woman knew what she was setting everyone up for. So here, she deserves every single negative reaction that she gets.
Let me guess, you are also a "Christian"
Anonymous
02/22/2018 09:54
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Yea, I'm really wondering how legit this video and the captions are. No one else has come forward to corroborate this guys story that it was a full 8 hours of mayhem. No doubt it was a sh*tshow for at least a few minutes of the flight but I can't find anything from anyone else on the flight saying "yea it was hell for 8 hours straight and the kid never stopped!" Was it really the full flight or just a really bad 20 minutes? Or 10 minutes?
But neither has anyone come forward to contest his account, including the mother or the airline. I think it’s pretty likely he’s telling the truth.
+1
We have all seen these kind of self absorbed parents: "I have to listen to it day in and day out, eight hours is nothing!" If you have not, maybe you are one?
Anonymous
02/22/2018 08:47
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Yea, I'm really wondering how legit this video and the captions are. No one else has come forward to corroborate this guys story that it was a full 8 hours of mayhem. No doubt it was a sh*tshow for at least a few minutes of the flight but I can't find anything from anyone else on the flight saying "yea it was hell for 8 hours straight and the kid never stopped!" Was it really the full flight or just a really bad 20 minutes? Or 10 minutes?
But neither has anyone come forward to contest his account, including the mother or the airline. I think it’s pretty likely he’s telling the truth.
Anonymous
02/21/2018 11:19
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Yea, I'm really wondering how legit this video and the captions are. No one else has come forward to corroborate this guys story that it was a full 8 hours of mayhem. No doubt it was a sh*tshow for at least a few minutes of the flight but I can't find anything from anyone else on the flight saying "yea it was hell for 8 hours straight and the kid never stopped!" Was it really the full flight or just a really bad 20 minutes? Or 10 minutes?
Anonymous
02/21/2018 11:16
Subject: Re:8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I read a bit more about this situation. Apparently before they took off they tried to get the family off the flight but the mom somehow convinced them everything would be ok.
Does anyone have a source on this info?
+1 I have not seen this in the news.