Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 15:25     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
"Community" could easily mean private school students and parents or particularly private schools that end at second grade.

Community could also mean geographical rather than racial. OP said their home school is Floris ES, which is certainly a "TJ mania" part of FCPS.


The point is communities could mean multiple things. It could mean geographic regions, race, private school parents....It's not trolling to think it could be race/ethnicity, because it could be. It is one possibility. The use of the word troll when someone says something you don't agree with is silly.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 15:16     Subject: AAP appeal declined
Phone conversations are useless. You need explanations in writing, and signed by someone.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 15:12     Subject: AAP appeal declined
Send this to The Washington Post. Jay Matthews doesn't do his own investigating, I don't think, but his staff does. Though, how about first - - one last try - - contact the Superintendent.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 14:54     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:
"Community" could easily mean private school students and parents or particularly private schools that end at second grade.

Community could also mean geographical rather than racial. OP said their home school is Floris ES, which is certainly a "TJ mania" part of FCPS.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 14:53     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
All I know is that in all the years I've seem people talk about AAP, I've never heard of a child with these scores getting rejected. And it makes no sense that a committee would think work examples wouldn't be prepped, but that testing would. If there is no proof of a parent doing anything illegal, I also do not understand how they can make that claim either.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 14:43     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So far, the possible reasons other parents have suggested - -

1. Applying from a private school
2. Using a private psychologist
3. Ethnic/racial profiling
4. Lack of best work samples




I do not think racial profiling is an issue here. Whoever suggested in this thread is a work of a troll!!

Additional point:

GBRs from private school seems to carry less or no weight.


Why is suggesting racial profiling trolling? The OP said the the FCPS person mentioned many "communities" prepping. While that could mean people in a certain geographic region, it could also mean ethnic/cultural background. Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't make that person a troll. It is especially interesting that the GBRS and the WISC seemed to have no impact, despite being high.


"Community" could easily mean private school students and parents or particularly private schools that end at second grade.

We also don't know the actual words used by the FCPS employee on the phone. OP could have been paraphrasing from what she recalled of the communication.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 14:41     Subject: AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:OP - please tell us your DC's race so we could put a stop to this 'racial profiling' nonsense.

BTW, is your DC older?


She said 2nd grader, didn't she?
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 14:33     Subject: AAP appeal declined
OP - please tell us your DC's race so we could put a stop to this 'racial profiling' nonsense.

BTW, is your DC older?
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 14:23     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:I repeatedly asked what was the reason for denial of appeal with wisc and got no straight answer. Just been told appeal decision is final
Calling again on Monday
Going to ask if appeal has to be looked into who else should be contacted


Go up the chain.

The AAP office reports to Instructional Services.

https://www.fcps.edu/department/instructional-service-department

Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 13:36     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So far, the possible reasons other parents have suggested - -

1. Applying from a private school
2. Using a private psychologist
3. Ethnic/racial profiling
4. Lack of best work samples




I do not think racial profiling is an issue here. Whoever suggested in this thread is a work of a troll!!

Additional point:

GBRs from private school seems to carry less or no weight.


Why is suggesting racial profiling trolling? The OP said the the FCPS person mentioned many "communities" prepping. While that could mean people in a certain geographic region, it could also mean ethnic/cultural background. Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't make that person a troll. It is especially interesting that the GBRS and the WISC seemed to have no impact, despite being high.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 13:20     Subject: AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:If GBRS from a private school is of no value, then it stands to reason that children going from private school are at a disadvantage, because their teacher's input is of no value, and has no standing in backing up what the test scores say.


There are plenty of threads saying that there is no disadvantage coming from private schools. This thread is not the only thread on this forum.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 13:14     Subject: AAP appeal declined
If GBRS from a private school is of no value, then it stands to reason that children going from private school are at a disadvantage, because their teacher's input is of no value, and has no standing in backing up what the test scores say.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 13:04     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I do not think racial profiling is an issue here. Whoever suggested in this thread is a work of a troll!!

Additional point:

GBRs from private school seems to carry less or no weight.


We don't know that racial profiling is an issue here. IF as the OP was told, "many communities prepare for the test", and her child belongs to that community, then certainly her race is being considered in deciding whether the test results are legit or not.

It really does seem like there is a major handicap trying to go into AAP from private school, and possibly an additional one if you're Asian. If they don't count test scores and GBRS, and they couldn't possibly tell whether a child did their samples at home/school (and the ones done at home have no value), then what are they basing their decisions on?


There are many threads saying that private school is no handicap. They aren't as long as this thread, though. Maybe length of thread is more persuasive to you?
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 13:00     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
Anonymous wrote:

I do not think racial profiling is an issue here. Whoever suggested in this thread is a work of a troll!!

Additional point:

GBRs from private school seems to carry less or no weight.


We don't know that racial profiling is an issue here. IF as the OP was told, "many communities prepare for the test", and her child belongs to that community, then certainly her race is being considered in deciding whether the test results are legit or not.

It really does seem like there is a major handicap trying to go into AAP from private school, and possibly an additional one if you're Asian. If they don't count test scores and GBRS, and they couldn't possibly tell whether a child did their samples at home/school (and the ones done at home have no value), then what are they basing their decisions on?
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 12:54     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined
I repeatedly asked what was the reason for denial of appeal with wisc and got no straight answer. Just been told appeal decision is final
Calling again on Monday
Going to ask if appeal has to be looked into who else should be contacted