Still no news on where he got the gun?

disapproved not dissolved-sorry I am doing 2 things at once and not well!

Key point to remember for those who think the parents should not be blamed even one small amount:

According to the news Buckley Kuhn Fricker contacted the mom of the boy and let her know he was sneaking into the home. If you know the family of your son's girlfriend dissolved of him and your kid is a crazed swastika mowing Nazi and he has major mental health and behavior problems, wouldn't you keep an eye on things to make sure he doesn't show up at their house again? IMO there is negligence. Don't even get me started about the fact he got access to a gun.

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Anonymous wrote:Potter said residents decided to send an emissary to the family’s home to discuss the swastika a couple days after it was discovered. Potter said the teen’s parents admitted he had mowed the symbol into the grass. She said they were aware of his behavioral issues and were getting him treatment.

So sickening. Unless they sent their neo-nazi son off to treatment camp for a half a year its NOT ENOUGH. Call the police.

What exactly were the police going to do that would eventually result in preventing these murders? Do we lock juveniles up and throw away the key for swastikas?

Exactly. At some point, the parents are no longer responsible for their kid's actions.

And what exactly would calling the police do? If a crime hasn't yet been committed, the police can't do anything. They can't lock people up for being neo-nazis and having skewed ideals on life. Being a terrible person isn't a crime.

Are you kidding? Destruction of public property is a crime. He'd at least get community service and SOMEONE would be watching him.

I’m wondering who that SOMEONE would be. He’s not going into some sort of placement for mowing a swastica into the lawn. And this happened during the night when his parents were likely sleeping.

Anonymous wrote:I would bet she let him in. It’s very possible she knew his intentions. Awful.

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It wouldn’t surprise me. In fact, I would guess that this is very likely true.

She probably didn’t like her do-gooder mom too much, to say the very least, if she insisted on dating her mother’s polar opposite. What an extreme way to get attention!

I appreciate the family friends who want to come on here and try to control the message, but there was much more going on in this family than met the eye of neighbors.

I would bet she let him in. It’s very possible she knew his intentions. Awful.

My private school was so racist. People went their just to get away from the brown people, and my high school Facebook feed like a small Trump rally. Hopefully, there aren't as many in private school now, but private school is not just for high achievers and rich people. Lots of problemed kids are there too.

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Anonymous wrote:Re:school. I am not a reporter and I have brought it up. Even if a reporter is on here trying to find out-good for them! Parents with kids applying should know so they can ask A LOT of questions. Plus, this may be a school where if the public school cannot manage a child they pay tuition at a private that can. If my tax dollars helped fund this boy, I want to know.

I would not suggest posting a link with info about the boy since he is a minor. It's easy enough to find the alleged name on your own and then find the parents through searches. An obit for the grandpa of alleged shooter lists them all too. Interesting to note is that grandpa of the alleged shooter fought in WW2.

Why do you have this narrative that the school is demanding silence and cowering? Most likely this is a small, specialized school without the PR resources of a Sidwell. Quite frankly, the tone of your posts are very nosey and self righteous. You deserve nothing at this point, let the police do their investigation and let the family of the deceased grieve.

I am a different poster and I have brought up the school question too. It just bothers me that there is a school somewhere that is hiding the facts for the sake of its own reputation. If it is a mainstream private, I guarantee it has sent messages to its parent body advising them not to share the school's name in connection with the event. If it turns out it is a small special needs school, I would not be bothered by this silence.

My guess is that its the latter. They look like they would both be candidates for alternative school. If it was a private, my guess wold be a small school alternative type school like New School of Northern Virginia or Howard Gardner.

One of the articles said private school.

the New School IS A PRIVATE SCHOOL. And neither attended New School.

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Anonymous wrote:Re:school. I am not a reporter and I have brought it up. Even if a reporter is on here trying to find out-good for them! Parents with kids applying should know so they can ask A LOT of questions. Plus, this may be a school where if the public school cannot manage a child they pay tuition at a private that can. If my tax dollars helped fund this boy, I want to know.

I would not suggest posting a link with info about the boy since he is a minor. It's easy enough to find the alleged name on your own and then find the parents through searches. An obit for the grandpa of alleged shooter lists them all too. Interesting to note is that grandpa of the alleged shooter fought in WW2.

Why do you have this narrative that the school is demanding silence and cowering? Most likely this is a small, specialized school without the PR resources of a Sidwell. Quite frankly, the tone of your posts are very nosey and self righteous. You deserve nothing at this point, let the police do their investigation and let the family of the deceased grieve.

I am a different poster and I have brought up the school question too. It just bothers me that there is a school somewhere that is hiding the facts for the sake of its own reputation. If it is a mainstream private, I guarantee it has sent messages to its parent body advising them not to share the school's name in connection with the event. If it turns out it is a small special needs school, I would not be bothered by this silence.

My guess is that its the latter. They look like they would both be candidates for alternative school. If it was a private, my guess wold be a small school alternative type school like New School of Northern Virginia or Howard Gardner.

The New School is not an alternative school for the emotionally disturbed. The only thing that makes it "alternative" is they work on a philosophy of the intelligences, developed by Harvard, rather than kill and drill. My oldest son went there after being bullied mercilessly in public school because he was dysgraphic and the wonderful school board in Fairfax County wouldn't let him carry a laptop that we paid for, after refusing to accept the test results of the certified psychological testing center. Everyone at the New School carried a laptop and he became a stellar student and a school leader, helping other kids who came to the school after being relentlessly bullied like him. He needed no special counseling or school help - his learning disability disappeared when he was able to use the right tool - the one Fairfax County refused to allow him.

It's also a magnet school for foreign students, especially from China and Korea. I've seen students cry with gratitude at graduation, so grateful are they for the opportunities given. And yes, the school has their share of Ivy attendance, though they help the kids focus on choosing the right school for THEM, not just because the college has a name.

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Anonymous wrote:I was in college 8 hours from home at 17 - the only part of my daily life my parents were responsible for was the tuition check.

I realize this isn't this kid's situation, but most parents are not making many decisions about their 17 year old's daily actions.

Oh, really?

If my 17 year old is living under my roof, you can be damn sure he will not be out at 5:00 in the morning, at his GF's house or anywhere else, without my knowledge and consent.

You don't remember being 17 very well, do you? I highly doubt your parents knew about and consented to everything you did.

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Anonymous wrote:Re:school. I am not a reporter and I have brought it up. Even if a reporter is on here trying to find out-good for them! Parents with kids applying should know so they can ask A LOT of questions. Plus, this may be a school where if the public school cannot manage a child they pay tuition at a private that can. If my tax dollars helped fund this boy, I want to know.

I would not suggest posting a link with info about the boy since he is a minor. It's easy enough to find the alleged name on your own and then find the parents through searches. An obit for the grandpa of alleged shooter lists them all too. Interesting to note is that grandpa of the alleged shooter fought in WW2.

Why do you have this narrative that the school is demanding silence and cowering? Most likely this is a small, specialized school without the PR resources of a Sidwell. Quite frankly, the tone of your posts are very nosey and self righteous. You deserve nothing at this point, let the police do their investigation and let the family of the deceased grieve.

I am a different poster and I have brought up the school question too. It just bothers me that there is a school somewhere that is hiding the facts for the sake of its own reputation. If it is a mainstream private, I guarantee it has sent messages to its parent body advising them not to share the school's name in connection with the event. If it turns out it is a small special needs school, I would not be bothered by this silence.

You people harping on the school name are nuts. Now you’re lobbing accusations of “hiding” the facts. How about the fact that they don’t owe you or any other random DCUM poster anything. If it’s not your school, it’s not your business.

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Anonymous wrote:Re:school. I am not a reporter and I have brought it up. Even if a reporter is on here trying to find out-good for them! Parents with kids applying should know so they can ask A LOT of questions. Plus, this may be a school where if the public school cannot manage a child they pay tuition at a private that can. If my tax dollars helped fund this boy, I want to know.

I would not suggest posting a link with info about the boy since he is a minor. It's easy enough to find the alleged name on your own and then find the parents through searches. An obit for the grandpa of alleged shooter lists them all too. Interesting to note is that grandpa of the alleged shooter fought in WW2.

Why do you have this narrative that the school is demanding silence and cowering? Most likely this is a small, specialized school without the PR resources of a Sidwell. Quite frankly, the tone of your posts are very nosey and self righteous. You deserve nothing at this point, let the police do their investigation and let the family of the deceased grieve.

I am a different poster and I have brought up the school question too. It just bothers me that there is a school somewhere that is hiding the facts for the sake of its own reputation. If it is a mainstream private, I guarantee it has sent messages to its parent body advising them not to share the school's name in connection with the event. If it turns out it is a small special needs school, I would not be bothered by this silence.

My guess is that its the latter. They look like they would both be candidates for alternative school. If it was a private, my guess wold be a small school alternative type school like New School of Northern Virginia or Howard Gardner.

One of the articles said private school.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to the dog? Why was he separated from the family?

Probably a precaution. I notified Animal Allies and asked them to call and if the dog is still there, to find an emergency foster.

Thank you. What a heartbreaking story and the fact that the family pet is in a concrete cage somewhere makes it even worse.

A dog in a concrete cage is so much more important than two dead humans. People befor animals you idiot.

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It boggles my mind that some on here are zeroing in on the child’s loss of his dog, over the child’s violent loss of his parents.

I love animals, but it’s proof of how emotionally stunted “dog people” are.

There is nothing anyone can do to get the child his parents back, or change what happened.
There is a possibility that his dog can be made sure to be well taken care, and available for him to be with it should it be possible in the future.

Perhaps that is why some people are talking about it.

This. My own kids love our dogs. In a horrible situation like this one I would think that it would be a great comfort to the family (and the boy in particular) to know that the dog was being cared for personally in a loving foster home.

The family has a f**ked up teenager to deal with, the traumatic death of two family members, and a traumatized adult child and 9 year old child. I suspect they may be a teensy bit overwhelmed and are not thinking of whether or not Phideaux is in a "loving foster home."

A likely scenario. Which is probably why PPs brought it up. Hoping the dog doesn't get lost in the shuffle. A lot of bad things happened, lots of bad decisions - here's one more thing we should try not to F up if we can help it.

Fairfax County has a kill shelter, so the dog probably doesn't have long.

It's being looked into and handled today. I've made sure of it. And Fairfax County has been revamped and my vet said that most of the animals get adopted. It's not what it used to be.

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Anonymous wrote:The Wash Post reported minutes ago that the boy (who is in critical condition but will be charged with two counts of murder) carved a swastika in his lawn in Lorton. But I can't open the story further because I don't have a subscription. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/a-swastika-was-mowed-into-a-field-now-neighbors-ask-if-they-could-have-done-more/2017/12/26/4e190a48-ea63-11e7-8a6a-80acf0774e64_story.html?utm_term=.f2a6feae56bd

He was a disturbed kid crying out for attention. My bets is he's from a broken home. As a Jew, the Nazi stuff does not bother me in the slightest, as I would take the fact that he was 17 and had prior mental health issues into account FIRST.

Your prejudice is showing. Why assume he was from a broken home when nothing points to that. You are as bad as those scapegoating his actions based upon (insert excuse). And what does a broken home versus an intact home really mean anyway? So, according to your definition, kids of two-parent heterosexual homes never commit heinous crimes?

Anonymous wrote:I was in college 8 hours from home at 17 - the only part of my daily life my parents were responsible for was the tuition check.

I realize this isn't this kid's situation, but most parents are not making many decisions about their 17 year old's daily actions.

Oh, really?

If my 17 year old is living under my roof, you can be damn sure he will not be out at 5:00 in the morning, at his GF's house or anywhere else, without my knowledge and consent.