Anonymous
10/04/2017 18:02
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This attempt to control for diversity seems so ill conceived. APS can do what it wants and redistrict all it wants. No way will their silly attempts fundamentally change anything, though. People in N. Arlington will either sell and move to Fairfax County, or send their kids to private before sending them to a horrible school. Lol, can you imagine any parents in the current Williamsburg zone allowing their kids to go to Kenmore? Ridiculous.
I do not have to imagine it. I know 3 families in my circle of friends who are zoned for Williamsburg but decided to send their kids to Kenmore.
Oops, forgot one. Make that 4 families.
Sure.
The only way you'd believe me is if I posted their names and addresses and I am not going to do that. Those 4 families felt Kenmore was a better fit for their children then Williamsburg and in each instance their child attended for all three years of MS.
Williamsburg sent 28 kids to Kenmore
Swanson sent 36. It's on the transfer report. No need to go on personal anecdotes.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 18:02
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Cool. I'm sure the other people in Williamsburg with their big new builds would be just like the 4 outliers you know. Totally. It's gonna work for sure.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This attempt to control for diversity seems so ill conceived. APS can do what it wants and redistrict all it wants. No way will their silly attempts fundamentally change anything, though. People in N. Arlington will either sell and move to Fairfax County, or send their kids to private before sending them to a horrible school. Lol, can you imagine any parents in the current Williamsburg zone allowing their kids to go to Kenmore? Ridiculous.
I do not have to imagine it. I know 3 families in my circle of friends who are zoned for Williamsburg but decided to send their kids to Kenmore.
Oops, forgot one. Make that 4 families.
Sure.
The only way you'd believe me is if I posted their names and addresses and I am not going to do that. Those 4 families felt Kenmore was a better fit for their children then Williamsburg and in each instance their child attended for all three years of MS.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:58
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This attempt to control for diversity seems so ill conceived. APS can do what it wants and redistrict all it wants. No way will their silly attempts fundamentally change anything, though. People in N. Arlington will either sell and move to Fairfax County, or send their kids to private before sending them to a horrible school. Lol, can you imagine any parents in the current Williamsburg zone allowing their kids to go to Kenmore? Ridiculous.
I do not have to imagine it. I know 3 families in my circle of friends who are zoned for Williamsburg but decided to send their kids to Kenmore.
Oops, forgot one. Make that 4 families.
Sure.
The only way you'd believe me is if I posted their names and addresses and I am not going to do that. Those 4 families felt Kenmore was a better fit for their children then Williamsburg and in each instance their child attended for all three years of MS.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:52
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
+1 to the PP. Let's see Arlington carve out a section of country club hills to swap with Kenmore. Once they're willing to do that,we can talk about busing other kids far away.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:47
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Like I said, I support H. It evens out Kenmore without overburdening either TJ or Gunston. My conclusion from comparing all the maps is that fr/l rates are projected to rise in the south overall. That is a function of geography and of non-school policy choices made years before. This looks to me like the best we can do without some artificial island. It is certainly the best we can do of the proposals on the table. Whether the SB will swoop in with some made-up hybrid option at the last minute is a different story, of course.
H isn't without real costs - see the Swanson parent poster, who I genuinely feel for. I don't have a middle schooler so I can't say that this is a small thing to that small group of families. We aren't in the walk zone for any school, in fact. On balance, I'd vote to sacrifice the interests of that small group in walking in favor of what I believe to be best for about half the county's students. Not to say it's a free choice though.
So it's ok for an 11 year old to walk 1.5 miles using the bike trail so she can cross Rt 50 (before sunrise for part of the year), rather than walk the 0.5 miles to the school next to their house? That scenario should really help the traffic around Kenmore and Swanson. No way I'm letting my daughter make that walk.
To be perfectly clear- she would be going under Route 50- Carlin Springs goes under Route 50 and has wide sidewalks along this underpass-- not crossing it. Similar to how she is currently crossing 66.
Not the same at all. Right now our DH kids walk a block over Patrick Henry in our own neighborhood. From my house it's about a 5-6min walk. Instead option H would do one of three things. Get her up a lot earlier to catch a bus. Get her up a lot earlier to walk on a dark trail that I won't even run on alone in the dark. By the way, do a crime report run on the number of sexual assaults and robberies along the W&OD and Four Mile Run trails in the last few years and tell me you'd be comfortable with your prepubescent child walking there alone. Or, I drive her, thus contributing to all the traffic that the Carlin Springs neighborhood objected to with the idea of a high school there.
1.5mi walk zones are a joke. For many of us, our walk zone is under half a mile, and yes, the kids walk.
Want real diversity, start swapping kids between South Arlington and Williamsburg. Until then, if you have a school remaining under 10% FARMS in what you claim is a relatively small county, then this is lip service to diversity while sacrificing every other factor that APS claims it takes into consideration.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:32
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This attempt to control for diversity seems so ill conceived. APS can do what it wants and redistrict all it wants. No way will their silly attempts fundamentally change anything, though. People in N. Arlington will either sell and move to Fairfax County, or send their kids to private before sending them to a horrible school. Lol, can you imagine any parents in the current Williamsburg zone allowing their kids to go to Kenmore? Ridiculous.
I do not have to imagine it. I know 3 families in my circle of friends who are zoned for Williamsburg but decided to send their kids to Kenmore.
Oops, forgot one. Make that 4 families.
Sure.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:31
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This attempt to control for diversity seems so ill conceived. APS can do what it wants and redistrict all it wants. No way will their silly attempts fundamentally change anything, though. People in N. Arlington will either sell and move to Fairfax County, or send their kids to private before sending them to a horrible school. Lol, can you imagine any parents in the current Williamsburg zone allowing their kids to go to Kenmore? Ridiculous.
I do not have to imagine it. I know 3 families in my circle of friends who are zoned for Williamsburg but decided to send their kids to Kenmore.
Oops, forgot one. Make that 4 families.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:30
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:This attempt to control for diversity seems so ill conceived. APS can do what it wants and redistrict all it wants. No way will their silly attempts fundamentally change anything, though. People in N. Arlington will either sell and move to Fairfax County, or send their kids to private before sending them to a horrible school. Lol, can you imagine any parents in the current Williamsburg zone allowing their kids to go to Kenmore? Ridiculous.
I do not have to imagine it. I know 3 families in my circle of friends who are zoned for Williamsburg but decided to send their kids to Kenmore.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:28
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We live a little under 1.5 miles from Jefferson and just over 2 miles from Gunston, but because of where the boundary is my kid rides the bus to Gunston. Seems preety dicey to me when he wants to ride his bike (has to ride down Glebe and get under 395 while crossing several on and off ramps). Would never in a million years occur to me to complain about this or insist that we switch to a "walkable" middle school. Life isn't perfect and I can't believe how many people think that their kid should be entitled to the public school experience that they have decided is optimal, over what is best for the 20,000 student population as a whole. Get over yourselves.
+1 Preach
+2
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:27
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
This attempt to control for diversity seems so ill conceived. APS can do what it wants and redistrict all it wants. No way will their silly attempts fundamentally change anything, though. People in N. Arlington will either sell and move to Fairfax County, or send their kids to private before sending them to a horrible school. Lol, can you imagine any parents in the current Williamsburg zone allowing their kids to go to Kenmore? Ridiculous.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:25
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:...walk down Carlin Springs under the underpass, dodging cars that are getting on/off Route 50, and then get to school?...
there are crossing guards. and traffic lights. the needs to dodge is minimal.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:08
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Seems reasonable for biking.
Or walking. That's a 30-minute walk. The bus picks kids up 50 minutes before school starts.
What time does MS start? I see driving drop off in our future.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:06
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We live a little under 1.5 miles from Jefferson and just over 2 miles from Gunston, but because of where the boundary is my kid rides the bus to Gunston. Seems preety dicey to me when he wants to ride his bike (has to ride down Glebe and get under 395 while crossing several on and off ramps). Would never in a million years occur to me to complain about this or insist that we switch to a "walkable" middle school. Life isn't perfect and I can't believe how many people think that their kid should be entitled to the public school experience that they have decided is optimal, over what is best for the 20,000 student population as a whole. Get over yourselves.
+1 Preach
Agree. We live 1.8 miles from W-L. Fairly flat, easy ride miles. We live 2.0 miles to Wakefield. These 2 miles include basically a mountain, nearly impossible to bike. But we are inbound (and bus riders) for Wakefield.
I understand that change is hard and there will be some people who are unhappy. But we have to look at the whole picture. We are a COMMUNITY.
You are essentially equidistant to those two schools. Of course you shouldn't care which one you go to.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:06
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:
Seems reasonable for biking.
Or walking. That's a 30-minute walk. The bus picks kids up 50 minutes before school starts.
Anonymous
10/04/2017 17:04
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We live a little under 1.5 miles from Jefferson and just over 2 miles from Gunston, but because of where the boundary is my kid rides the bus to Gunston. Seems preety dicey to me when he wants to ride his bike (has to ride down Glebe and get under 395 while crossing several on and off ramps). Would never in a million years occur to me to complain about this or insist that we switch to a "walkable" middle school. Life isn't perfect and I can't believe how many people think that their kid should be entitled to the public school experience that they have decided is optimal, over what is best for the 20,000 student population as a whole. Get over yourselves.
+1 Preach
Agree. We live 1.8 miles from W-L. Fairly flat, easy ride miles. We live 2.0 miles to Wakefield. These 2 miles include basically a mountain, nearly impossible to bike. But we are inbound (and bus riders) for Wakefield.
I understand that change is hard and there will be some people who are unhappy. But we have to look at the whole picture. We are a COMMUNITY.