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Anonymous wrote:WISC V FSIQ: 134
GBRS: 12

not eligible -

What were the cogat and nnat?

In independent school. No cogat or NNAT. Thought the 134 + 12 wild do the trick. Thoughts?

GMU offers other tests - perhaps call them and ask what your options are? Are you transferring into FCPS next year? If so, you can then take the COGAT.

I was told the wisc would suffice and 134 is in the 99%. Not sure what to think

Seriously, this is why FCPS should be sued. I know a child with scores in the low 120s who got in and this child didn't? I'm dumbfounded by some of the in and not in scores. Someone should do a FOIA request to see what's up with the random nature of the selections.

NNAT: 129
COGAT: 130
WISC V: 143
scored 99%+ in VCI, VSI and FRI
GBRS 15

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to most of the decisions?

Meh, even assuming every stat in this thread is true, with a few exceptions, it generally seems pretty consistent to me

+1 (especially since the AARTs seem pretty open that 2/3 of the in pool kids are admitted and 1/3 of the outside of pool kids are admitted). That seems to fit the posts here, too.

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Anonymous wrote:WISC V FSIQ: 134
GBRS: 12

not eligible -

What were the cogat and nnat?

In independent school. No cogat or NNAT. Thought the 134 + 12 wild do the trick. Thoughts?

GMU offers other tests - perhaps call them and ask what your options are? Are you transferring into FCPS next year? If so, you can then take the COGAT.

I was told the wisc would suffice and 134 is in the 99%. Not sure what to think

I think that private school apps are scrutinized to a higher degree. Did you submit work samples? How did the school-submitted samples look? Did you complete the parent questionnaire? I had a friend who submitted a high WISC (over 132, can't remember the exact score) and a 16 GBRS with her son's file (no parent questionnaire) and he was denied. On appeal, all she did was submit the parent questionnaire and he then got it.

I agree with above PP. our AART advised filling everything including the referral form even though DC was in pool. Her take was the more info, the better. Definitely advise getting a hold of the file/samples sent to see for yourself.

Thanks to you both. Will do. The samples from the school were solid with strong recommendations but we'll submit more. Silly process, are we sure we're not all crazy?

I understand from stories on this board, often GBRS from a private school isn't taken as seriously. Best example is last year a child with a GBRS of 6 from a private school was admitted. If that is true in your child's case, there was no other independent verification of the need for admission. I don't think you can get the CogAT or NNAT through Mason now because they are only given a few times per year in a group setting.

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Anonymous wrote:WISC V FSIQ: 134
GBRS: 12

not eligible -

What were the cogat and nnat?

In independent school. No cogat or NNAT. Thought the 134 + 12 wild do the trick. Thoughts?

GMU offers other tests - perhaps call them and ask what your options are? Are you transferring into FCPS next year? If so, you can then take the COGAT.

I was told the wisc would suffice and 134 is in the 99%. Not sure what to think

I think that private school apps are scrutinized to a higher degree. Did you submit work samples? How did the school-submitted samples look? Did you complete the parent questionnaire? I had a friend who submitted a high WISC (over 132, can't remember the exact score) and a 16 GBRS with her son's file (no parent questionnaire) and he was denied. On appeal, all she did was submit the parent questionnaire and he then got it.

I agree with above PP. our AART advised filling everything including the referral form even though DC was in pool. Her take was the more info, the better. Definitely advise getting a hold of the file/samples sent to see for yourself.

Thanks to you both. Will do. The samples from the school were solid with strong recommendations but we'll submit more. Silly process, are we sure we're not all crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:WISC V FSIQ: 134
GBRS: 12

not eligible -

What were the cogat and nnat?

In independent school. No cogat or NNAT. Thought the 134 + 12 wild do the trick. Thoughts?

GMU offers other tests - perhaps call them and ask what your options are? Are you transferring into FCPS next year? If so, you can then take the COGAT.

I was told the wisc would suffice and 134 is in the 99%. Not sure what to think

I think that private school apps are scrutinized to a higher degree. Did you submit work samples? How did the school-submitted samples look? Did you complete the parent questionnaire? I had a friend who submitted a high WISC (over 132, can't remember the exact score) and a 16 GBRS with her son's file (no parent questionnaire) and he was denied. On appeal, all she did was submit the parent questionnaire and he then got it.

I agree with above PP. our AART advised filling everything including the referral form even though DC was in pool. Her take was the more info, the better. Definitely advise getting a hold of the file/samples sent to see for yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:WISC V FSIQ: 134
GBRS: 12

not eligible -

What were the cogat and nnat?

In independent school. No cogat or NNAT. Thought the 134 + 12 wild do the trick. Thoughts?

GMU offers other tests - perhaps call them and ask what your options are? Are you transferring into FCPS next year? If so, you can then take the COGAT.

I was told the wisc would suffice and 134 is in the 99%. Not sure what to think

I think that private school apps are scrutinized to a higher degree. Did you submit work samples? How did the school-submitted samples look? Did you complete the parent questionnaire? I had a friend who submitted a high WISC (over 132, can't remember the exact score) and a 16 GBRS with her son's file (no parent questionnaire) and he was denied. On appeal, all she did was submit the parent questionnaire and he then got it.

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to most of the decisions?

What can you tell by numbers and opinions of parents? It's like looking at SAT scores in a vacuum and making assumptions about a student's college app. Too many factors involved. It's all a guessing game here.

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Anonymous wrote:WISC V FSIQ: 134
GBRS: 12

not eligible -

What were the cogat and nnat?

In independent school. No cogat or NNAT. Thought the 134 + 12 wild do the trick. Thoughts?

GMU offers other tests - perhaps call them and ask what your options are? Are you transferring into FCPS next year? If so, you can then take the COGAT.

I was told the wisc would suffice and 134 is in the 99%. Not sure what to think

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This ^^^^ No 2 files are alike even if they have the same test scores. There are other components we can't see on here and they can make the difference. Same is true for what appears to be a stronger file based on scores/GBRS. It may be weaker in other regards compared to a file with lower scores/GBRS. I know my AART commented on what great work samples we submitted and likewise, the school submitted 2 great ones for my daughter. I truly believe that made a difference as her scores were middle of the pack (only in pool on CogAT)

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to most of the decisions?

I think part of that is with only knowing GBRS and test scores there is no way to make a prediction. We are not seeing the whole file. There are a lot of work samples the school submits. There is a lot of commentary on the GBRS. I've talked to several 2nds grade teachers- those teachers absolutely know how to write a GBRS to convey whether the kids displays the traits the committee is looking for. There is information on what the kids DRA score is and whether they are getting pullouts in 2nd.

This, not 2 files are like even if they have the same test scores. There are other components we can't see on here and they can make the difference. Same is true for what appears to be a stronger file based on scores/GBRS. It may be weaker in other regards compared to a file with lower scores/GBRS. I know my AART commented on what great work samples we submitted and likewise, the school submitted 2 great ones for my daughter. I truly believe that made a difference as her scores were middle of the pack.

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to most of the decisions?

Meh, even assuming every stat in this thread is true, with a few exceptions, it generally seems pretty consistent to me

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to most of the decisions?

I think part of that is with only knowing GBRS and test scores there is no way to make a prediction. We are not seeing the whole file. There are a lot of work samples the school submits. There is a lot of commentary on the GBRS. I've talked to several 2nds grade teachers- those teachers absolutely know how to write a GBRS to convey whether the kids displays the traits the committee is looking for. There is information on what the kids DRA score is and whether they are getting pullouts in 2nd.

Has anyone noticed that there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to most of the decisions?

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Anonymous wrote:WISC V FSIQ: 134
GBRS: 12

not eligible -

What were the cogat and nnat?

In independent school. No cogat or NNAT. Thought the 134 + 12 wild do the trick. Thoughts?

GMU offers other tests - perhaps call them and ask what your options are? Are you transferring into FCPS next year? If so, you can then take the COGAT.