Anonymous wrote:That's "literally a lightbulb" to you, since I am in fact, a lightbulb. Again, you don't understand what literally means. But many people use it incorrectly, so don't fret.
Anonymous wrote:So you are all rooting for these two kids to attend college, which must mean you don't think try are terrorist bullies. Yet you are grand with expulsion and losing scholarships and starting literally from rock bottom. Having gone through the college process wit my kids I dont think you have any idea what it's like. I also hope when your kids get in trouble at school and say "but I was just kidding" (which happens every day, and most are but in a lame/nasty/dumb/snarky way hence being in trouble) you urge the school to fully throw the book at them based on what they said, not who they are, their history,or what they might explain they meant. And NO second chances. I'm sure you will urge that the next time your kid is in a scrap at school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People are really focused on Princeton and its perceived exclusivity. I am thinking about both of the two children, and their prospects of attending any college and getting their lives back on track. The focus on Princeton is just reflective of dcums tunnel vision about exclusive colleges. I would hope any college would look at this situation and allow the kids in conditional (dont get in more trouble before end of the year). Personally, thats what I think WL should have done vis graduating. But since everyone wants them flogged for their email joke, what are their options for college? Applications are over. You are all claiming offers will be withdrawn. Where do these two DC kids who knew where they were headed next year go? Nowhere? Is that what we as DCs moms and dads want?
This is really bothering me.
I don't want them flogged I just think the punishment was right. They may have to go to a junior college for a year if they don't get in somewhere elae. They may have to take a year off and reapply next year. These are not uncommon paths for many people who did not get in trouble.
They are young and if the adults in their lives are not constantly telling them how unfair this is or how they can never recover, they will be able to overcome their stupid hoax. Heck they might even mature and become more aware of how their actions and words have an impact on the people around them.
+1 agreed. and hopefully your point about junior college will resonate with PP since she/he is so offended by the idea of elevating the role of "Princeton." And I hope any college, Ivy or not, that has a waitlist or that has to deny applications of qualified kids who don't have such a serious infraction on their transcript would also choose to pass on the "pranksters" and opt for another worthy kid.
This is DC not MD or VA. There isn't a junior college in DC
There is a community college as part of UDC; they hold classes on N. Cap. St. The kids could also go to one of the junior colleges in the surrounding areas. They might even get into a college that they have already applied for. The bottom line is that this doesn't have to end their lives, but if the adults in their lives are telling them the same things being posted here, they might start to believe there is no hope for them and act that way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People are really focused on Princeton and its perceived exclusivity. I am thinking about both of the two children, and their prospects of attending any college and getting their lives back on track. The focus on Princeton is just reflective of dcums tunnel vision about exclusive colleges. I would hope any college would look at this situation and allow the kids in conditional (dont get in more trouble before end of the year). Personally, thats what I think WL should have done vis graduating. But since everyone wants them flogged for their email joke, what are their options for college? Applications are over. You are all claiming offers will be withdrawn. Where do these two DC kids who knew where they were headed next year go? Nowhere? Is that what we as DCs moms and dads want?
This is really bothering me.
I don't want them flogged I just think the punishment was right. They may have to go to a junior college for a year if they don't get in somewhere elae. They may have to take a year off and reapply next year. These are not uncommon paths for many people who did not get in trouble.
They are young and if the adults in their lives are not constantly telling them how unfair this is or how they can never recover, they will be able to overcome their stupid hoax. Heck they might even mature and become more aware of how their actions and words have an impact on the people around them.
+1 agreed. and hopefully your point about junior college will resonate with PP since she/he is so offended by the idea of elevating the role of "Princeton." And I hope any college, Ivy or not, that has a waitlist or that has to deny applications of qualified kids who don't have such a serious infraction on their transcript would also choose to pass on the "pranksters" and opt for another worthy kid.
This is DC not MD or VA. There isn't a junior college in DC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
And by doing so you are ensuring that these kids will learn that society expects them to misbehave, will be undereducated, and in turn will never really grow up.
Kids make mistakes. Bad ones. Even illegal ones. All of the time. At some point, they deserve a second chance to prove themselves.
How odd that you and I come to completely different conclusions. I take it that by doing so the school is saying that it expected them to behave and because they didn't they face severe consequences. You make it sound like WL expels kids all the time-- this is the first time I've ever heard of the school expelling a kid.
These kids are getting a second chance-- sounds like they are attending their IB school and if they play their cards right and they can turn this around. Americans LOVE redemption stories and this has all the hallmarks of one. "Smart kids at urban high school make a (really) dumb mistake, pick themselves up and keep going, end up in a better place than if they had never made the dumb mistake at all." Yeah, I'd pay $$ to see that movie/musical/play! I'm proud that WL made the difficult decision to expel the kids. It shows that they has high expectations for its students. I really don't follow how you can say that it shows they have low expectations for the students-- you would have to have some proof that WL expels kids all the time to support such a cynical concept.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People are really focused on Princeton and its perceived exclusivity. I am thinking about both of the two children, and their prospects of attending any college and getting their lives back on track. The focus on Princeton is just reflective of dcums tunnel vision about exclusive colleges. I would hope any college would look at this situation and allow the kids in conditional (dont get in more trouble before end of the year). Personally, thats what I think WL should have done vis graduating. But since everyone wants them flogged for their email joke, what are their options for college? Applications are over. You are all claiming offers will be withdrawn. Where do these two DC kids who knew where they were headed next year go? Nowhere? Is that what we as DCs moms and dads want?
This is really bothering me.
I don't want them flogged I just think the punishment was right. They may have to go to a junior college for a year if they don't get in somewhere elae. They may have to take a year off and reapply next year. These are not uncommon paths for many people who did not get in trouble.
They are young and if the adults in their lives are not constantly telling them how unfair this is or how they can never recover, they will be able to overcome their stupid hoax. Heck they might even mature and become more aware of how their actions and words have an impact on the people around them.
+1 agreed. and hopefully your point about junior college will resonate with PP since she/he is so offended by the idea of elevating the role of "Princeton." And I hope any college, Ivy or not, that has a waitlist or that has to deny applications of qualified kids who don't have such a serious infraction on their transcript would also choose to pass on the "pranksters" and opt for another worthy kid.