Anonymous wrote:I apologize for being late to this thread but as a current TJ student I just had to share my opinion for future students.
I am a senior in the Class of 2017. I will be graduating in about 4 months and can without a doubt say that TJ was not the right place FOR ME. TJ was not worth it FOR ME. Almost every school, there is a sense of dread that I start feeling as I get ready to drive to school and spend 8 hours in that building.
From freshman year on, students are given college-level material in courses simply titled as "honors." While that might be okay for the kid geniuses with photographic memories, that is not okay for the average students who like math and went to TJ because they got in. If your child does not honestly think they can be in the top half of TJ, it is not worth it college wise. With increased college competition, the average accepted GPA at UVA is a 4.3. Kids rarely receive consideration for UVA if they do not have above a 4.15. I can speak more on the workload later if prompted.
Speaking for the more emotional aspects as a student, dropping out of TJ is a possibility, yes, but once students start at TJ, they feel unfulfilled if they end up leaving. No kid wants to be known as the "quitter who dropped out of TJ." It's a pride thing. I respectfully feel that parents do not understand how difficult of a decision dropping out can really be. Yes parents see the stress their kids go through, but they cannot see the looks kids receive from their peers throughout the day.
I'm going to be completely honest here. I am not in the top half of my class at TJ. I will most likely not be attending a top 30 school. TJ was not worth it for me because it took away all my self-confidence. Yes one can say that I ended up with bad grades because I did not work hard, but that is not the case. I think of 10 weekends off the top of my head where I did not leave my house at all so I could sit at my desk and do homework. I walk into classes now honestly feeling like I am not smart. As I apply to colleges, I know that that is not the real world. I know that being a student at TJ and even attempting to tackle the material I am is an accomplishment. But at the time, all I saw was my bad grades on test I studied hours for and my peers who got a higher grade for half the work. The hardest part of TJ is not comparing yourself to your peers. The hardest part of TJ is not seeing your hard work pay off.
Yes, TJ will challenge you. Yes, TJ will be an easier social environment. Yes, TJ will help some kids get into their "dream school." But, FOR ME, all it did was make me feel like I was not good enough to be there.
I do not share this insecurity for sympathy or to begrudge the school in any way. I simply want to let some prospective students know what the school is like. When I made the decision to attend 4 years ago, I had no idea what the school was really like. Before I graduate, I hope I can make my experience helpful to some people.
Anonymous wrote:I apologize for being late to this thread but as a current TJ student I just had to share my opinion for future students.
I am a senior in the Class of 2017. I will be graduating in about 4 months and can without a doubt say that TJ was not the right place FOR ME. TJ was not worth it FOR ME. Almost every school, there is a sense of dread that I start feeling as I get ready to drive to school and spend 8 hours in that building.
From freshman year on, students are given college-level material in courses simply titled as "honors." While that might be okay for the kid geniuses with photographic memories, that is not okay for the average students who like math and went to TJ because they got in. If your child does not honestly think they can be in the top half of TJ, it is not worth it college wise. With increased college competition, the average accepted GPA at UVA is a 4.3. Kids rarely receive consideration for UVA if they do not have above a 4.15. I can speak more on the workload later if prompted.
Speaking for the more emotional aspects as a student, dropping out of TJ is a possibility, yes, but once students start at TJ, they feel unfulfilled if they end up leaving. No kid wants to be known as the "quitter who dropped out of TJ." It's a pride thing. I respectfully feel that parents do not understand how difficult of a decision dropping out can really be. Yes parents see the stress their kids go through, but they cannot see the looks kids receive from their peers throughout the day.
I'm going to be completely honest here. I am not in the top half of my class at TJ. I will most likely not be attending a top 30 school. TJ was not worth it for me because it took away all my self-confidence. Yes one can say that I ended up with bad grades because I did not work hard, but that is not the case. I think of 10 weekends off the top of my head where I did not leave my house at all so I could sit at my desk and do homework. I walk into classes now honestly feeling like I am not smart. As I apply to colleges, I know that that is not the real world. I know that being a student at TJ and even attempting to tackle the material I am is an accomplishment. But at the time, all I saw was my bad grades on test I studied hours for and my peers who got a higher grade for half the work. The hardest part of TJ is not comparing yourself to your peers. The hardest part of TJ is not seeing your hard work pay off.
Yes, TJ will challenge you. Yes, TJ will be an easier social environment. Yes, TJ will help some kids get into their "dream school." But, FOR ME, all it did was make me feel like I was not good enough to be there.
I do not share this insecurity for sympathy or to begrudge the school in any way. I simply want to let some prospective students know what the school is like. When I made the decision to attend 4 years ago, I had no idea what the school was really like. Before I graduate, I hope I can make my experience helpful to some people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).
Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.
The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.
+1
Ignore those TJ cheerleaders. It's supposed to be a science and tech magnet, but most go to state schools studying non STEM fields. Many of the kids there were prepped in and continued their stressful lives for 4 years. Only about 10 or even less out of 500 go to MIT each year, that shows you what elite engineering schools think about TJ.
This is another reason why you (supposed TJ grad) have to be careful about what you say about TJ on these threads since there are plenty of people who are ready to pounce TJ at every chance for whatever reason.
As for the college placement, TJ enjoys one of the best college placements in the country. Also, class of 2015 received some 36 million dollars in merit scholarship money (about 423 graduates). This is in light of the fact that many top privates do not give any merit based scholarships. What this shows is many TJ grads will forego Ivys or other top privates for merit based scholarships. There are grads who still attend Ivys etc. but many will choose scholarship money instead of Ivy prestige.
As for the MIT comment, TJ send the most high school students to MIT of all the high schools if you look at the past 10 years. TJ also sends plenty to Princeton, UC Berkeley, Stanford, Cornell, Michigan, CMU, Caltech, GaTech, Illinois etc. known for STEM education.
Did you just make that up? In some recent years, TJ only sent single digit number of students to MIT.
TJ acceptances to MIT:
2010-2011 23
2012-2013 18
2013-2014 12
2014-2015 18
What about the enroll numbers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).
Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.
The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.
+1
Ignore those TJ cheerleaders. It's supposed to be a science and tech magnet, but most go to state schools studying non STEM fields. Many of the kids there were prepped in and continued their stressful lives for 4 years. Only about 10 or even less out of 500 go to MIT each year, that shows you what elite engineering schools think about TJ.
This is another reason why you (supposed TJ grad) have to be careful about what you say about TJ on these threads since there are plenty of people who are ready to pounce TJ at every chance for whatever reason.
As for the college placement, TJ enjoys one of the best college placements in the country. Also, class of 2015 received some 36 million dollars in merit scholarship money (about 423 graduates). This is in light of the fact that many top privates do not give any merit based scholarships. What this shows is many TJ grads will forego Ivys or other top privates for merit based scholarships. There are grads who still attend Ivys etc. but many will choose scholarship money instead of Ivy prestige.
As for the MIT comment, TJ send the most high school students to MIT of all the high schools if you look at the past 10 years. TJ also sends plenty to Princeton, UC Berkeley, Stanford, Cornell, Michigan, CMU, Caltech, GaTech, Illinois etc. known for STEM education.
Did you just make that up? In some recent years, TJ only sent single digit number of students to MIT.
TJ acceptances to MIT:
2010-2011 23
2012-2013 18
2013-2014 12
2014-2015 18
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).
Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.
The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.
+1
Ignore those TJ cheerleaders. It's supposed to be a science and tech magnet, but most go to state schools studying non STEM fields. Many of the kids there were prepped in and continued their stressful lives for 4 years. Only about 10 or even less out of 500 go to MIT each year, that shows you what elite engineering schools think about TJ.
This is another reason why you (supposed TJ grad) have to be careful about what you say about TJ on these threads since there are plenty of people who are ready to pounce TJ at every chance for whatever reason.
As for the college placement, TJ enjoys one of the best college placements in the country. Also, class of 2015 received some 36 million dollars in merit scholarship money (about 423 graduates). This is in light of the fact that many top privates do not give any merit based scholarships. What this shows is many TJ grads will forego Ivys or other top privates for merit based scholarships. There are grads who still attend Ivys etc. but many will choose scholarship money instead of Ivy prestige.
As for the MIT comment, TJ send the most high school students to MIT of all the high schools if you look at the past 10 years. TJ also sends plenty to Princeton, UC Berkeley, Stanford, Cornell, Michigan, CMU, Caltech, GaTech, Illinois etc. known for STEM education.
Did you just make that up? In some recent years, TJ only sent single digit number of students to MIT.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).
Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.
The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.
+1
Ignore those TJ cheerleaders. It's supposed to be a science and tech magnet, but most go to state schools studying non STEM fields. Many of the kids there were prepped in and continued their stressful lives for 4 years. Only about 10 or even less out of 500 go to MIT each year, that shows you what elite engineering schools think about TJ.
This is another reason why you (supposed TJ grad) have to be careful about what you say about TJ on these threads since there are plenty of people who are ready to pounce TJ at every chance for whatever reason.
As for the college placement, TJ enjoys one of the best college placements in the country. Also, class of 2015 received some 36 million dollars in merit scholarship money (about 423 graduates). This is in light of the fact that many top privates do not give any merit based scholarships. What this shows is many TJ grads will forego Ivys or other top privates for merit based scholarships. There are grads who still attend Ivys etc. but many will choose scholarship money instead of Ivy prestige.
As for the MIT comment, TJ send the most high school students to MIT of all the high schools if you look at the past 10 years. TJ also sends plenty to Princeton, UC Berkeley, Stanford, Cornell, Michigan, CMU, Caltech, GaTech, Illinois etc. known for STEM education.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm backing away from this because it's kind of turned into a nonsense attack on me (why yes, dear internet, I am an utter idiot. Please continue to attack my tablet and phone writing skills while I continue to kill time before picking up my kids from yet another thing. These are very important skills. As is having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously).
Anyway, I hope your kids enjoy TJ as much as you clearly like the school. It's a hard place for some kids, but I truly hope your kids blossom there. I stand by my experience and belief the treadmill of being the best of the best isn't as important as being your own best human being. We'll see how it turns out.
The point of the thread was to ask a real question. I tried to answer it, but I'm not going to bother engaging because it's clearly not wanted.
+1
Ignore those TJ cheerleaders. It's supposed to be a science and tech magnet, but most go to state schools studying non STEM fields. Many of the kids there were prepped in and continued their stressful lives for 4 years. Only about 10 or even less out of 500 go to MIT each year, that shows you what elite engineering schools think about TJ.
Having gone to TJ, I know what they are missing out on. And I don't think the drawbacks (and there are many) are worth it. They'll be fine where they are mostly because they have educated parents and are well off, PP. That is the biggest factor in terms of performance on standardized tests and school performance for the bulk of children. I honestly don't care if my kids go to an ivy or follow my footsteps at Stanford or whatever. I care that they have a love of learning, are resilient, have a strong sense of security, and are healthy, balanced kids. I am putting my resources of cultivating this and fostering their innate talents. TJ just isn't a fit for my philosophy (and I say this as an alum -- I stand by my point, unless you teach there or have went, I don't think you truly know what it's like to attend.).