Anonymous
01/24/2015 07:34
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There wasn't a race war. Liberals came on here to demean and criticize a dead war hero. If people want to sit here and judge every little thing, then why not MLK. He had his skeletons too and this was before paparazzi, social media, internet and more. No one is perfect but the harsh criticism of Kyle and even his wife is some posts, went way too far. There is no more respect for the military.
I'm sorry but conservatives brought up MLK. Not our fault.
I'm confused. I can't imagine the person who stated that if people did not say that MLK accomplished more and would be remembered more than Kyle, then they were clearly racist, was a conservative in any form of the word.
I asked why, after an attempt to clearly blackmail people with the race card, would he/she felt he/she deserved a response to the question at all?
Anonymous
01/24/2015 00:14
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:There wasn't a race war. Liberals came on here to demean and criticize a dead war hero. If people want to sit here and judge every little thing, then why not MLK. He had his skeletons too and this was before paparazzi, social media, internet and more. No one is perfect but the harsh criticism of Kyle and even his wife is some posts, went way too far. There is no more respect for the military.
It strikes me as "odd" that you think MLK is for the liberals. Obviously he's a hero for everyone, because none of us believe in segregation, and all of us want to solve our domestic political problems nonviolently. Right? Right?
Anonymous
01/24/2015 00:13
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:There wasn't a race war. Liberals came on here to demean and criticize a dead war hero. If people want to sit here and judge every little thing, then why not MLK. He had his skeletons too and this was before paparazzi, social media, internet and more. No one is perfect but the harsh criticism of Kyle and even his wife is some posts, went way too far. There is no more respect for the military.
I'm sorry but conservatives brought up MLK. Not our fault.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 22:39
Subject: Re:American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't we have nicer kinder snipers that appreciate art.
So snipers get to come home and kill people, beat people, and accuse the federal government of killing dozens of Americans without due process?
We ask them to do atrocious thinks to protect our county, lack the ability to manage mental illness when they return, then you sit iny our warm homes with your high speed internet and degrees you don't use judging them.
Exactly
Anonymous
01/23/2015 22:39
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:This thread is repulsive. Why are people so upset that movie is popular. Why do people sit back and judge a man who can no longer defend himself. And now racism and one response after another. Ick
Agreed. Welcome to progressive activism. Ick is right.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 22:36
Subject: American Sniper
This thread is repulsive. Why are people so upset that movie is popular. Why do people sit back and judge a man who can no longer defend himself. And now racism and one response after another. Ick
Anonymous
01/23/2015 21:59
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:There wasn't a race war. Liberals came on here to demean and criticize a dead war hero. If people want to sit here and judge every little thing, then why not MLK. He had his skeletons too and this was before paparazzi, social media, internet and more. No one is perfect but the harsh criticism of Kyle and even his wife is some posts, went way too far. There is no more respect for the military.
The harder progressives fight and more ridiculous they get, the more they feel threatened.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 21:37
Subject: American Sniper
There wasn't a race war. Liberals came on here to demean and criticize a dead war hero. If people want to sit here and judge every little thing, then why not MLK. He had his skeletons too and this was before paparazzi, social media, internet and more. No one is perfect but the harsh criticism of Kyle and even his wife is some posts, went way too far. There is no more respect for the military.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 16:48
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please disprove it. I'm curious as to whether you think desegregation is less important or King was not instrumental.
The floor is all yours pp.
I am not the PP you are referring too but just because someone has an opinion that one person may be more influential than another person, in their opinion, does not make them racist. It just doesn't.
In this particular case, I see no plausible reason for the opinion other than racism. Are we to assume that 160 kills is worth more to america than ending segregation?
Ugh, go away already. We get it. You overuse the race card. It is always black vs white. I really wish Kyle was black so you would just drop this racism BS.
If Kyle was black, I'd say the same thing. Anyone in America who thinks that MLK's life achievements do not dwarf 160 kills has a racial screw loose. This is not a general thing. This is not "always black vs. white". In this specific instance, I can find no logic to explain the opinion other than racism. Once again, I look to you to provide a plausible non-racist explanation.
Why is it a contest to you? Why must you diminish one man in order to raise up another? I think that's the question you should be asking yourself.
And why does appreciating Kyle's service have to turn into a race war for you? Do you have a financial stake in Selma? Are you a paid activist? Or simply someone who wants a weird, twisted justice? I don't understand why you feel so strongly about this issue.
Me?? I did not initiate this comparison, the other poster did.
And no, I do not have a financial stake in Selma. Nor have I seen it.
I noticed that neither this poster nor you are going to answer my question.
What mkes you think, given your hostility, that you deserve an answer?
Oh a rhetorical question as a response. How surprising.
Its not rhetorical. Im asking you why you feel you deserve an answer, given your accusations and level of snark.
This turned into a race war when a conservative made it into one! Selma/MLK entered the conversation when someone gloated that AS did better at the box office. And then the liberals were somehow accused of playing the race card.
It was a random statement that derailed this entire thread. And not exactly a shocking observation, by the way. Of course a Bradley Cooper/Clint Eastwood action flick will do better than a docu-drama.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 16:26
Subject: Re:American Sniper
I need a flow chart .
Anonymous
01/23/2015 16:18
Subject: American Sniper
A PP here and I did not want to get into this part of the discussion, but think back about how MLK and race was even injected into this conversation. A PP made a comment (that was not race based) criticizing American Sniper and another person, who is probably White, made a snarky comment about Selma. So in this particular case, a White conservative played the race card and a White conservative has played the Liberal card. So if we want to talk about true colors, ask yourself why a person felt compelled to diss a movie about civil rights in a discussion dealing with a movie about a soldier whose duty was killing POC.
Signed,
A WW who is tired of the whole damn thread.
Signed,
A WW who is tired of the whole damn thread.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 15:57
Subject: American Sniper
I have given my reasons why I think he's a racist, and I have repeatedly invited posters to explain a non-racist reason for the poster's statement. I have yet to have anyone respond. That's pretty telling.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 14:52
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please disprove it. I'm curious as to whether you think desegregation is less important or King was not instrumental.
The floor is all yours pp.
I am not the PP you are referring too but just because someone has an opinion that one person may be more influential than another person, in their opinion, does not make them racist. It just doesn't.
In this particular case, I see no plausible reason for the opinion other than racism. Are we to assume that 160 kills is worth more to america than ending segregation?
Ugh, go away already. We get it. You overuse the race card. It is always black vs white. I really wish Kyle was black so you would just drop this racism BS.
If Kyle was black, I'd say the same thing. Anyone in America who thinks that MLK's life achievements do not dwarf 160 kills has a racial screw loose. This is not a general thing. This is not "always black vs. white". In this specific instance, I can find no logic to explain the opinion other than racism. Once again, I look to you to provide a plausible non-racist explanation.
Why is it a contest to you? Why must you diminish one man in order to raise up another? I think that's the question you should be asking yourself.
And why does appreciating Kyle's service have to turn into a race war for you? Do you have a financial stake in Selma? Are you a paid activist? Or simply someone who wants a weird, twisted justice? I don't understand why you feel so strongly about this issue.
Me?? I did not initiate this comparison, the other poster did.
And no, I do not have a financial stake in Selma. Nor have I seen it.
I noticed that neither this poster nor you are going to answer my question.
What mkes you think, given your hostility, that you deserve an answer?
Oh a rhetorical question as a response. How surprising.
Its not rhetorical. Im asking you why you feel you deserve an answer, given your accusations and level of snark.
Because he was a liar and a cheater and he gets more credit than others that fought for Civil Rights and to end segregation. And really, we aren't much better off these days because there continues to be racism and reverse racism everywhere. It always turns black vs white. Like you trying to bully people to think this man was a god and no other person can look higher than him. That people can not have their own opinion without being labeled a racist. I respect Kyle for not only protecting all US soldiers (black and white) but overcoming PTSD and staying a family man. True to his roots. MLK plagerised his doctorate thesis, used his power to consistently cheat on his wife, used black women like whores. If social media was around then, I am sure more would be uncovered.
Ah, there it is. Thanks for showing your true colors.
So what are the PP's true colors? Because honestly, looking back at the tread, it only shows that you are the one being a close-minded person quick to label someone a racist who doesn't agree to your opinion. Do you realize how uneducated that is?
Anonymous
01/23/2015 14:37
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please disprove it. I'm curious as to whether you think desegregation is less important or King was not instrumental.
The floor is all yours pp.
I am not the PP you are referring too but just because someone has an opinion that one person may be more influential than another person, in their opinion, does not make them racist. It just doesn't.
In this particular case, I see no plausible reason for the opinion other than racism. Are we to assume that 160 kills is worth more to america than ending segregation?
Ugh, go away already. We get it. You overuse the race card. It is always black vs white. I really wish Kyle was black so you would just drop this racism BS.
If Kyle was black, I'd say the same thing. Anyone in America who thinks that MLK's life achievements do not dwarf 160 kills has a racial screw loose. This is not a general thing. This is not "always black vs. white". In this specific instance, I can find no logic to explain the opinion other than racism. Once again, I look to you to provide a plausible non-racist explanation.
Why is it a contest to you? Why must you diminish one man in order to raise up another? I think that's the question you should be asking yourself.
And why does appreciating Kyle's service have to turn into a race war for you? Do you have a financial stake in Selma? Are you a paid activist? Or simply someone who wants a weird, twisted justice? I don't understand why you feel so strongly about this issue.
Me?? I did not initiate this comparison, the other poster did.
And no, I do not have a financial stake in Selma. Nor have I seen it.
I noticed that neither this poster nor you are going to answer my question.
What mkes you think, given your hostility, that you deserve an answer?
Oh a rhetorical question as a response. How surprising.
Its not rhetorical. Im asking you why you feel you deserve an answer, given your accusations and level of snark.
Because he was a liar and a cheater and he gets more credit than others that fought for Civil Rights and to end segregation. And really, we aren't much better off these days because there continues to be racism and reverse racism everywhere. It always turns black vs white. Like you trying to bully people to think this man was a god and no other person can look higher than him. That people can not have their own opinion without being labeled a racist. I respect Kyle for not only protecting all US soldiers (black and white) but overcoming PTSD and staying a family man. True to his roots. MLK plagerised his doctorate thesis, used his power to consistently cheat on his wife, used black women like whores. If social media was around then, I am sure more would be uncovered.
Ah, there it is. Thanks for showing your true colors.
Anonymous
01/23/2015 13:51
Subject: American Sniper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please disprove it. I'm curious as to whether you think desegregation is less important or King was not instrumental.
The floor is all yours pp.
I am not the PP you are referring too but just because someone has an opinion that one person may be more influential than another person, in their opinion, does not make them racist. It just doesn't.
In this particular case, I see no plausible reason for the opinion other than racism. Are we to assume that 160 kills is worth more to america than ending segregation?
Ugh, go away already. We get it. You overuse the race card. It is always black vs white. I really wish Kyle was black so you would just drop this racism BS.
If Kyle was black, I'd say the same thing. Anyone in America who thinks that MLK's life achievements do not dwarf 160 kills has a racial screw loose. This is not a general thing. This is not "always black vs. white". In this specific instance, I can find no logic to explain the opinion other than racism. Once again, I look to you to provide a plausible non-racist explanation.
Why is it a contest to you? Why must you diminish one man in order to raise up another? I think that's the question you should be asking yourself.
And why does appreciating Kyle's service have to turn into a race war for you? Do you have a financial stake in Selma? Are you a paid activist? Or simply someone who wants a weird, twisted justice? I don't understand why you feel so strongly about this issue.
Me?? I did not initiate this comparison, the other poster did.
And no, I do not have a financial stake in Selma. Nor have I seen it.
I noticed that neither this poster nor you are going to answer my question.
What mkes you think, given your hostility, that you deserve an answer?
Oh a rhetorical question as a response. How surprising.
Its not rhetorical. Im asking you why you feel you deserve an answer, given your accusations and level of snark.
Because he was a liar and a cheater and he gets more credit than others that fought for Civil Rights and to end segregation. And really, we aren't much better off these days because there continues to be racism and reverse racism everywhere. It always turns black vs white. Like you trying to bully people to think this man was a god and no other person can look higher than him. That people can not have their own opinion without being labeled a racist. I respect Kyle for not only protecting all US soldiers (black and white) but overcoming PTSD and staying a family man. True to his roots. MLK plagerised his doctorate thesis, used his power to consistently cheat on his wife, used black women like whores. If social media was around then, I am sure more would be uncovered.
Another PP here. For the record, MLK mostly slept with White women. Anyways, I am not sure why it is necessary to draw this line in the sand on either side. MLK's place in history is undeniable because he was the FACE of a larger movement. MOST people with sense realize that the movement was bigger than him and celebrating his birthday serves as a representative celebration of all those who made similar sacrifices. Similar to how we celebrate and glorify generals for the sacrifices that the men under them made. Saying that Kyle is a great soldier does not take away from MLK and vice versa. It is a dumb ass comparison to make and it is only relvant to this conversation because some troll made a reference to Selma in response to someone criticizing American Sniper.
Actually it is a myth that he slept with white prostitutes and abused them. It has never been proven. Many people close to him said they only saw him with black women. Not that either is a good situation. Didn't he also say in one of his speech's that women should only be home raising children? Didn't he have ties to the communists? Didn't he use church money to have drunken sex parties? On the night he died, he slept with 3 different women and got in a fist fight with one of them.
See it isn't fun bashing a dead hero, is it liberals?