Anonymous
01/07/2015 15:54
Subject: Re:Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't lie. At least two clubs (mine and Turkey something have been mentioned on here with a cut-off at 3 years old for opposite sex changing rooms.
If you don't like the rules, change your membership. Or lobby to have the rules changed.
For the record I have not lied. I did not see any reference to a cut off of 3 and I don't believe it exists. Not unless there are family changing rooms available.
Ignorant rather than malicious then.
Okay, go ahead and give me links to rules of pools that 1) do not have family changing rooms and 2) have a cut of of 3. I'd prefer a link to an online page of rules, but failing that if you just give me the name, I'll go ahead and call to confirm what you're saying - I have plenty of time to waste today, plus I know you won't do that because they just don't exist (no reasonable person or organization would ever expect a 3 year old to go into a locker room on his own).
To avoid ambiguity, please reply with a statement like this:
[name of pool] does not have family changing rooms and any child over the age of 3 is required to change in the changing room of the appropriate sex, without appropriate supervision if with an opposite sex parent.
Thanks.
If you have time, go through the thread. Some of us have jobs. Must be nice to be a SAHM with that much time to kill.
As do I, (I agree it would be very nice to be a SAHM)-I knew I wouldn't need to do this work because you CAN'T PROVIDE THE INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU ARE LYING. There is no information that confirms this anywhere in this thread. However I have posted the rules at DPR pools in the district, which back up my assumptions. How about you post some info to back up your crazy claims?
Anonymous
01/07/2015 15:50
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you or your family members have trouble with those who follow pool rules and bring their opposite sex (girl or boy),children into the locker room -- again, following rules -- then you all need to stay home or, as some of you have recommended, simply cover yourselves with a robe or towel, then dash out to you nicely warmed car, and get dress in the privacy of your own homes. A pool is a public place.
Also, what do you think would happen after the first little kid complained about being sexually harassed, ogled or molested in a same-sex locker room? Big lawsuit! Hope your "private" pool stays open after that!
Please provide cites for cases of children sexually harassed, molested or ogled in a boys' lockerroom.
Are you this delusional about all things, or just about pedophilia? Your youth pastor is more likely to molest your child than someone in a public lockerroom.
Different poster here, but this is not uncommon at all. (Perhaps you've heard about Jerry Sandusky?) Take a look at the many cases that happen every week:
https://www.google.com/search?q=molestation+in+public+locker+room&biw=1333&bih=577&ei=dputVOmlAsa1ggTqwIGgCg&start=0&sa=N
Certainly as a kid I was aware of people I knew who had been abused in the locker room by adults, and yet I never heard of any youth pastor being abusive.
Anonymous
01/07/2015 14:55
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:I would never send my 5 yo DS into a locker room or public restroom on his own- you have no idea what kind of people might be in them. I never give any thought about bringing my DS into the locker room or restroom with me. I can't believe some women actually have an issue with it.
What will you do when he's 6?
Anonymous
01/07/2015 14:42
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:If you or your family members have trouble with those who follow pool rules and bring their opposite sex (girl or boy),children into the locker room -- again, following rules -- then you all need to stay home or, as some of you have recommended, simply cover yourselves with a robe or towel, then dash out to you nicely warmed car, and get dress in the privacy of your own homes. A pool is a public place.
Also, what do you think would happen after the first little kid complained about being sexually harassed, ogled or molested in a same-sex locker room? Big lawsuit! Hope your "private" pool stays open after that!
Please provide cites for cases of children sexually harassed, molested or ogled in a boys' lockerroom.
Are you this delusional about all things, or just about pedophilia? Your youth pastor is more likely to molest your child than someone in a public lockerroom.
Anonymous
01/07/2015 14:41
Subject: Re:Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't lie. At least two clubs (mine and Turkey something have been mentioned on here with a cut-off at 3 years old for opposite sex changing rooms.
If you don't like the rules, change your membership. Or lobby to have the rules changed.
For the record I have not lied. I did not see any reference to a cut off of 3 and I don't believe it exists. Not unless there are family changing rooms available.
Ignorant rather than malicious then.
Okay, go ahead and give me links to rules of pools that 1) do not have family changing rooms and 2) have a cut of of 3. I'd prefer a link to an online page of rules, but failing that if you just give me the name, I'll go ahead and call to confirm what you're saying - I have plenty of time to waste today, plus I know you won't do that because they just don't exist (no reasonable person or organization would ever expect a 3 year old to go into a locker room on his own).
To avoid ambiguity, please reply with a statement like this:
[name of pool] does not have family changing rooms and any child over the age of 3 is required to change in the changing room of the appropriate sex, without appropriate supervision if with an opposite sex parent.
Thanks.
If you have time, go through the thread. Some of us have jobs. Must be nice to be a SAHM with that much time to kill.
Anonymous
01/07/2015 09:07
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
If you or your family members have trouble with those who follow pool rules and bring their opposite sex (girl or boy),children into the locker room -- again, following rules -- then you all need to stay home or, as some of you have recommended, simply cover yourselves with a robe or towel, then dash out to you nicely warmed car, and get dress in the privacy of your own homes. A pool is a public place.
Also, what do you think would happen after the first little kid complained about being sexually harassed, ogled or molested in a same-sex locker room? Big lawsuit! Hope your "private" pool stays open after that!
Also, what do you think would happen after the first little kid complained about being sexually harassed, ogled or molested in a same-sex locker room? Big lawsuit! Hope your "private" pool stays open after that!
Anonymous
01/07/2015 08:47
Subject: Re:Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't lie. At least two clubs (mine and Turkey something have been mentioned on here with a cut-off at 3 years old for opposite sex changing rooms.
If you don't like the rules, change your membership. Or lobby to have the rules changed.
For the record I have not lied. I did not see any reference to a cut off of 3 and I don't believe it exists. Not unless there are family changing rooms available.
Ignorant rather than malicious then.
Okay, go ahead and give me links to rules of pools that 1) do not have family changing rooms and 2) have a cut of of 3. I'd prefer a link to an online page of rules, but failing that if you just give me the name, I'll go ahead and call to confirm what you're saying - I have plenty of time to waste today, plus I know you won't do that because they just don't exist (no reasonable person or organization would ever expect a 3 year old to go into a locker room on his own).
To avoid ambiguity, please reply with a statement like this:
[name of pool] does not have family changing rooms and any child over the age of 3 is required to change in the changing room of the appropriate sex, without appropriate supervision if with an opposite sex parent.
Thanks.
Anonymous
01/07/2015 08:28
Subject: Re:Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't lie. At least two clubs (mine and Turkey something have been mentioned on here with a cut-off at 3 years old for opposite sex changing rooms.
If you don't like the rules, change your membership. Or lobby to have the rules changed.
For the record I have not lied. I did not see any reference to a cut off of 3 and I don't believe it exists. Not unless there are family changing rooms available.
Ignorant rather than malicious then.
Anonymous
01/07/2015 08:26
Subject: Re:Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't lie. At least two clubs (mine and Turkey something have been mentioned on here with a cut-off at 3 years old for opposite sex changing rooms.
If you don't like the rules, change your membership. Or lobby to have the rules changed.
For the record I have not lied. I did not see any reference to a cut off of 3 and I don't believe it exists. Not unless there are family changing rooms available.[/quote
Ignorant, rather than malicious then.
Anonymous
01/06/2015 20:56
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
I would never send my 5 yo DS into a locker room or public restroom on his own- you have no idea what kind of people might be in them. I never give any thought about bringing my DS into the locker room or restroom with me. I can't believe some women actually have an issue with it.
Anonymous
01/06/2015 20:47
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So, what's the problem with toweling off poolside and then throwing on sweats over the suit, like many PPs have suggested?
I'm a mom with a daughter. On the advice of DCUM, I tried this with my DD one day. She was miserable on the ride home. Her wet suit soaked through her sweatpants. We put a towel down over the car seat and the car seat still got wet--through the sweat and the towel. Add to that that she had to walk to the car in a wet suit and then get into a 32 degree car, it was terrible.
I would not recommend this solution for a mom with boys. And yes, I have a 4.5 yr boy. I am going to be facing this challenge very soon as our pool does not have a family dressing room. I'm not sure what I'm going to do if he is unable to manage to get his wet suit off his body, towel off, get his dry clothes out of his backpack, put them on, put his wet clothes into his backpack and come out an meet me outside the mens locker room. At 4.5, he is not able to accomplish these things on his own. Maybe in 6 months, he will be able to--who knows.
For the summer, I don't see an issue with going home in a wet suit. It's the winter swimming where it really becomes an issue.
The straps of a seat cannot get wet, so be careful. Just change your kid and ignore the comments. They clearly do not have young boys. I have got looks changing my kid in public when we were in a hurry and none in the women's room, which was filled with boys. Why would you place a wet child in a 32 degree car? That makes no sense. One thing to have wet hair, but have wet clothing on your body is not ok.
Ok, seriously, it's not ok for your son to be uncomfortable for a few moments because he's wearing a damp suit under sweats, but it's ok for him to make every girl in the locker room uncomfortable while they're changing?
1) He won't be making anyone uncomfortable changing. For fucks sake, he's 5. If you or your daughters have a problem with this YOU CAN GO SWIM ELSEWHERE. If you complain about me, it is YOU who will be thrown out, not me.
2) It's not a matter of him being uncomfortable because he's wet, it's a matter of getting hypothermia. It would be severe neglect to take a wet child outside in freezing weather. You know that so stop being deliberately obstinate.
(1) Sorry, hon, he is. You may not like that he is, but he is. And me and my daughters are the one obeying the rules. The rest of the world is not going to bend to your whims. And I'll bet all the money in my pockets that I'm in no danger of being thrown out for asking that pool members obey the rules.
(2) Hypothermia?! BWAH! That's awesome. I don't think you understand how, you know, physics works.
You're just not getting this are you. I am following the rules. My child is 5. You are the one who is an unpleasant, grumpy old prude. If your daughter has a problem with a 5 year old then it is HER PROBLEM and one that you need to discuss with her. Perhaps you should just stay home. It would make it easier for everyone.
Would you send your daughter out in below freezing weather in strong winds, with wet hair and wet clothes? Do you think that's neglectful? What about if her hair actually freezes?
Would I send my daughter out in below freezing weather with damp hair and a damp suit on under dry sweats and a jacket, for the time it takes to get into a car and warm the car up? Yes. Have I done it? Yes. She was fine. Has her hair frozen? Not on those occasions, but sometimes she's outside playing in the snow and her hair gets wet and then it freezes. And you know what, PP? IT THAWS.
Good lord.
Ok, how about you step outside you privileged country club world and understand that not everyone leaves the pool and heads into a warm already heated car. How are you so insular that you can not comprehend this?
Also, fuck you, we are following the rules and regardless of whether or not it makes your prude daughter uncomfortable because there is a 5 year old with ZERO interest in her in her vicinity or whether or not it's too cold to wait for the bus home while your swimsuit soaks through your jeans, it's not up to you. You are wrong and if your daughter is genuinely uncomfortable in the presence of a 5 year old boy for a few minutes while she's (most likely) changing under a towel (and where he'd likely see more bare flesh in the pool) it's YOUR PROBLEM, not mine.
End of discussion. And lighten up, a little. That rod is planted too far up your ass. No wonder your daughter has such fucked up issues about being around boy children.
Anonymous
01/06/2015 20:29
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So, what's the problem with toweling off poolside and then throwing on sweats over the suit, like many PPs have suggested?
I'm a mom with a daughter. On the advice of DCUM, I tried this with my DD one day. She was miserable on the ride home. Her wet suit soaked through her sweatpants. We put a towel down over the car seat and the car seat still got wet--through the sweat and the towel. Add to that that she had to walk to the car in a wet suit and then get into a 32 degree car, it was terrible.
I would not recommend this solution for a mom with boys. And yes, I have a 4.5 yr boy. I am going to be facing this challenge very soon as our pool does not have a family dressing room. I'm not sure what I'm going to do if he is unable to manage to get his wet suit off his body, towel off, get his dry clothes out of his backpack, put them on, put his wet clothes into his backpack and come out an meet me outside the mens locker room. At 4.5, he is not able to accomplish these things on his own. Maybe in 6 months, he will be able to--who knows.
For the summer, I don't see an issue with going home in a wet suit. It's the winter swimming where it really becomes an issue.
The straps of a seat cannot get wet, so be careful. Just change your kid and ignore the comments. They clearly do not have young boys. I have got looks changing my kid in public when we were in a hurry and none in the women's room, which was filled with boys. Why would you place a wet child in a 32 degree car? That makes no sense. One thing to have wet hair, but have wet clothing on your body is not ok.
Ok, seriously, it's not ok for your son to be uncomfortable for a few moments because he's wearing a damp suit under sweats, but it's ok for him to make every girl in the locker room uncomfortable while they're changing?
1) He won't be making anyone uncomfortable changing. For fucks sake, he's 5. If you or your daughters have a problem with this YOU CAN GO SWIM ELSEWHERE. If you complain about me, it is YOU who will be thrown out, not me.
2) It's not a matter of him being uncomfortable because he's wet, it's a matter of getting hypothermia. It would be severe neglect to take a wet child outside in freezing weather. You know that so stop being deliberately obstinate.
(1) Sorry, hon, he is. You may not like that he is, but he is. And me and my daughters are the one obeying the rules. The rest of the world is not going to bend to your whims. And I'll bet all the money in my pockets that I'm in no danger of being thrown out for asking that pool members obey the rules.
(2) Hypothermia?! BWAH! That's awesome. I don't think you understand how, you know, physics works.
You're just not getting this are you. I am following the rules. My child is 5. You are the one who is an unpleasant, grumpy old prude. If your daughter has a problem with a 5 year old then it is HER PROBLEM and one that you need to discuss with her. Perhaps you should just stay home. It would make it easier for everyone.
Would you send your daughter out in below freezing weather in strong winds, with wet hair and wet clothes? Do you think that's neglectful? What about if her hair actually freezes?
Would I send my daughter out in below freezing weather with damp hair and a damp suit on under dry sweats and a jacket, for the time it takes to get into a car and warm the car up? Yes. Have I done it? Yes. She was fine. Has her hair frozen? Not on those occasions, but sometimes she's outside playing in the snow and her hair gets wet and then it freezes. And you know what, PP? IT THAWS.
Good lord.
Anonymous
01/06/2015 20:21
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So, what's the problem with toweling off poolside and then throwing on sweats over the suit, like many PPs have suggested?
I'm a mom with a daughter. On the advice of DCUM, I tried this with my DD one day. She was miserable on the ride home. Her wet suit soaked through her sweatpants. We put a towel down over the car seat and the car seat still got wet--through the sweat and the towel. Add to that that she had to walk to the car in a wet suit and then get into a 32 degree car, it was terrible.
I would not recommend this solution for a mom with boys. And yes, I have a 4.5 yr boy. I am going to be facing this challenge very soon as our pool does not have a family dressing room. I'm not sure what I'm going to do if he is unable to manage to get his wet suit off his body, towel off, get his dry clothes out of his backpack, put them on, put his wet clothes into his backpack and come out an meet me outside the mens locker room. At 4.5, he is not able to accomplish these things on his own. Maybe in 6 months, he will be able to--who knows.
For the summer, I don't see an issue with going home in a wet suit. It's the winter swimming where it really becomes an issue.
The straps of a seat cannot get wet, so be careful. Just change your kid and ignore the comments. They clearly do not have young boys. I have got looks changing my kid in public when we were in a hurry and none in the women's room, which was filled with boys. Why would you place a wet child in a 32 degree car? That makes no sense. One thing to have wet hair, but have wet clothing on your body is not ok.
Ok, seriously, it's not ok for your son to be uncomfortable for a few moments because he's wearing a damp suit under sweats, but it's ok for him to make every girl in the locker room uncomfortable while they're changing?
1) He won't be making anyone uncomfortable changing. For fucks sake, he's 5. If you or your daughters have a problem with this YOU CAN GO SWIM ELSEWHERE. If you complain about me, it is YOU who will be thrown out, not me.
2) It's not a matter of him being uncomfortable because he's wet, it's a matter of getting hypothermia. It would be severe neglect to take a wet child outside in freezing weather. You know that so stop being deliberately obstinate.
(1) Sorry, hon, he is. You may not like that he is, but he is. And me and my daughters are the one obeying the rules. The rest of the world is not going to bend to your whims. And I'll bet all the money in my pockets that I'm in no danger of being thrown out for asking that pool members obey the rules.
(2) Hypothermia?! BWAH! That's awesome. I don't think you understand how, you know, physics works.
You're just not getting this are you. I am following the rules. My child is 5. You are the one who is an unpleasant, grumpy old prude. If your daughter has a problem with a 5 year old then it is HER PROBLEM and one that you need to discuss with her. Perhaps you should just stay home. It would make it easier for everyone.
Would you send your daughter out in below freezing weather in strong winds, with wet hair and wet clothes? Do you think that's neglectful? What about if her hair actually freezes?
Anonymous
01/06/2015 20:20
Subject: Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
So, what's the problem with toweling off poolside and then throwing on sweats over the suit, like many PPs have suggested?
I'm a mom with a daughter. On the advice of DCUM, I tried this with my DD one day. She was miserable on the ride home. Her wet suit soaked through her sweatpants. We put a towel down over the car seat and the car seat still got wet--through the sweat and the towel. Add to that that she had to walk to the car in a wet suit and then get into a 32 degree car, it was terrible.
I would not recommend this solution for a mom with boys. And yes, I have a 4.5 yr boy. I am going to be facing this challenge very soon as our pool does not have a family dressing room. I'm not sure what I'm going to do if he is unable to manage to get his wet suit off his body, towel off, get his dry clothes out of his backpack, put them on, put his wet clothes into his backpack and come out an meet me outside the mens locker room. At 4.5, he is not able to accomplish these things on his own. Maybe in 6 months, he will be able to--who knows.
For the summer, I don't see an issue with going home in a wet suit. It's the winter swimming where it really becomes an issue.
The straps of a seat cannot get wet, so be careful. Just change your kid and ignore the comments. They clearly do not have young boys. I have got looks changing my kid in public when we were in a hurry and none in the women's room, which was filled with boys. Why would you place a wet child in a 32 degree car? That makes no sense. One thing to have wet hair, but have wet clothing on your body is not ok.
Ok, seriously, it's not ok for your son to be uncomfortable for a few moments because he's wearing a damp suit under sweats, but it's ok for him to make every girl in the locker room uncomfortable while they're changing?
1) He won't be making anyone uncomfortable changing. For fucks sake, he's 5. If you or your daughters have a problem with this YOU CAN GO SWIM ELSEWHERE. If you complain about me, it is YOU who will be thrown out, not me.
2) It's not a matter of him being uncomfortable because he's wet, it's a matter of getting hypothermia. It would be severe neglect to take a wet child outside in freezing weather. You know that so stop being deliberately obstinate.
Sorry lady. You don't rule the world. If the club says no kids above 5, then you need to do something else.
And nobody gets hypothermia from walking to a car with a wet swimsuit underneath sweats.
LADY, with respect, YOU don't get to rule the world. Not one single poster has mentioned a club that says the rule excludes 5 year olds from opposite sex changing rooms. Not a single one. A common cut off, like that of OP's is SIX.
Yes, it is dangerous in winter weather to leave a pool in wet clothes. You do understand, don't you, that the heating doesn't immediately heat up a car? And that actually some people have to use public transport? I guess not, because after all, you are far too self obsessed to think about anyone but yourself and your fucked up daughters with severe issues.
Oh my god, you are a riot!
I know! It's hilarious that some people actually travel by bus!! I'm sure you are looking down on the poors from your MacMansion in the exurbs. But some of us are just regular people you know, not stuck up prudes with hang ups about nudity around very young children.
Judging by your ranting posts, you are anything but a "regular" person, PP!
Anonymous
01/06/2015 20:17
Subject: Re:Just got grief for bringing 5 yo DS into the women's locker room
Anonymous wrote:Don't lie. At least two clubs (mine and Turkey something have been mentioned on here with a cut-off at 3 years old for opposite sex changing rooms.
If you don't like the rules, change your membership. Or lobby to have the rules changed.
For the record I have not lied. I did not see any reference to a cut off of 3 and I don't believe it exists. Not unless there are family changing rooms available.