Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 10:19     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous wrote:In the photo of the man who's lower limbs were blown off, you see another man beside him, wearing a cowboy hat and holding the man's artery exposed to limit blood loss. He's literally holding the injured man's artery in his thumb and forefinger. The man's name is Carlos Arredondo, and he has an amazing story:

He's an immigrant from Costa Rica. His son was killed in Iraq. In distress, Carlos set himself on fire. He survived, only to be beaten by a right wing during an anti-war protest in DC. In 2011, his other son committed suicide. And now, an incredible hero, helping save this man's life (the man in the photo with two severed legs is believed to survive)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Arredondo

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17773869-the-man-in-the-hat-at-boston-marathon-finish-line-carlos-arredondo-didnt-set-out-to-be-hero?lite


Right wing of a what? An eagle? a Goose? An emu perhaps? (lol, sorry, I just couldn't help myself)

That IS an amazing story though.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 10:17     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

I was wondering what was up when they listed the 20 y/o Saudi national as "acting suspicious" because he was "running from the scene."

My thinking was, "Of course he'd be running from the scene."

Now if he were laughing maniacally, going "Allah-u-akbar", giving a terrorist fist bump to his wife, or whatever else terrorists do after a successful attack, we might be onto something. But running from a bomb blast?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 10:16     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

In the photo of the man who's lower limbs were blown off, you see another man beside him, wearing a cowboy hat and holding the man's artery exposed to limit blood loss. He's literally holding the injured man's artery in his thumb and forefinger. The man's name is Carlos Arredondo, and he has an amazing story:

He's an immigrant from Costa Rica. His son was killed in Iraq. In distress, Carlos set himself on fire. He survived, only to be beaten by a right wing during an anti-war protest in DC. In 2011, his other son committed suicide. And now, an incredible hero, helping save this man's life (the man in the photo with two severed legs is believed to survive)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Arredondo

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17773869-the-man-in-the-hat-at-boston-marathon-finish-line-carlos-arredondo-didnt-set-out-to-be-hero?lite
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 10:14     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's sad how so much ignorance and bigotry can be spewed by seemingly intelligent individuals.


You can claim bigotry all you like. It does not change the fact that 9/11 was perpetrated by Muslim extremists. Actually, it's pretty ignorant for anyone to suggest otherwise.


What does your comment have to do with getting pissed when the PP sees a mosque??? What else is the connection aside fom pure ignorance and bigotry painting all Muslims as the same?


He's not doing that. Mosques remind him of extremist Muslims - not a far leap. I don't think you'll find them in Synagogues.

Sure. In synagogues you'll find people plotting the death and destruction of any and all things Palestinian. Fair?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 09:45     Subject: Re:Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Sorry for my part in that speculation.
jsteele
Post 04/16/2013 09:26     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous wrote:The speculation re the Saudi was based upon news reports--not ails speculation that are military vets are unstable.


Just to be clear, I did not cut off discussion. I blocked posters, which may have had the same effect. One of the posters in question did not merely cite a media report, but elaborated that he is angered by the mere existence of a mosque in DC and considers the minaret to be giving him the middle finger. I have no patience for such folks.

That said, I have cautioned in a previous post against jumping to conclusions regarding right wingers. That suggestion goes double where our veterans are concerned. Let's let the facts play out before we decide who to blame.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 09:10     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

How UTTERLY DISGUSTING AND INHUMANE! Westboro Baptist "Church" twitters, "thank god for the Boston bombs" - say they are going to picket the funerals of the Boston bombings.

Seriously, what is wrong with these people?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:47     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Pp here. You cannot equate discussions based upon news reporting with wild speculation based upon bigotry and bias.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:46     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

The speculation re the Saudi was based upon news reports--not ails speculation that are military vets are unstable.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:42     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF with the wild speculations? Yesterday Jeff cut off the a&$holes making asinine comments about Muslims--and rightly so. However, it would be nice if the same sensitivity was shown to our veterans, other religious groups and those on the right. At this time we have no idea of the identity or morivation of the perpetrator of this dreadful act. Can the sniping and bigotry on this forum not abate even in the midst if tragedy?


+1


I see pages and pages of mentions of Saudis in this thread. I think the treatment given to the other groups is equal to the treatment of saudis here.

What Jeff cut off is definitely different from the commentary shown here. So let's not go overboard seeking a double standard.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:31     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous wrote:WTF with the wild speculations? Yesterday Jeff cut off the a&$holes making asinine comments about Muslims--and rightly so. However, it would be nice if the same sensitivity was shown to our veterans, other religious groups and those on the right. At this time we have no idea of the identity or morivation of the perpetrator of this dreadful act. Can the sniping and bigotry on this forum not abate even in the midst if tragedy?


+1
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:31     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:30     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous wrote:WTF with the wild speculations? Yesterday Jeff cut off the a&$holes making asinine comments about Muslims--and rightly so. However, it would be nice if the same sensitivity was shown to our veterans, other religious groups and those on the right. At this time we have no idea of the identity or morivation of the perpetrator of this dreadful act. Can the sniping and bigotry on this forum not abate even in the midst if tragedy?


No, no ... Don't you know you're on DCUM? That's not going to happen here. Sadly.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:27     Subject: Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

WTF with the wild speculations? Yesterday Jeff cut off the a&$holes making asinine comments about Muslims--and rightly so. However, it would be nice if the same sensitivity was shown to our veterans, other religious groups and those on the right. At this time we have no idea of the identity or morivation of the perpetrator of this dreadful act. Can the sniping and bigotry on this forum not abate even in the midst if tragedy?
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2013 08:19     Subject: Re:Two huge blasts rock Boston Marathon finish line

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Has anyone considered that this might be the North Koreans?


Too competent to be North Korean.

This is domestic. It's far Right, militia stuff. OKC happened on April 19, which is Patriots' Day. It's the day that the American Revolution started at Boston Commons. MA celebrates Patriots' Day on the third Monday in April, instead of on the actual date. The Marathon is scheduled to coincide with Patriots' Day. Today is an important date for domestic far Right terrorists.

They also set fire to the JFK presidential library. That's not the act of someone who loves Democrats or liberal policies.






The design of the bomb may also point to a returning military vet. They see a lot of those in Iraq. They have brain injuries and/or PTSD and/or a lot to be pissed off about.

McVeigh was a Gulf War vet, BTW.

In Iran they use 100's of pounds of military grade explosives. The death would have been in the 100s. Those explosions leave craters and structural damage.


We're not in Iran. We're in Iraq. I assume that's a typo.

A discharged vet wouldn't necessarily have access to high grade explosives but might know how to build an IED. They have training on how they're made.

The Saudi guy who was tackled and questioned at the hospital has been cleared by the FBI. He was just the wrong color person in the wrong place at the wrong time. Breathing while Arab, so to speak.