Anonymous wrote:So you pay $90 for a 60 minute massage, you're paying for the massage to be a good one, not half assed and if it is good, which is what you're paying to get, you tip anyway. Tipping is out of control. TIP stands for "To Ensure Prompt Service", not to get quality work/services or the alrady high price you're paying for the service, regardless if the person is the owner or not. I'll tip if they go over the hour, if they provide something more than the basic service I'm paying for. How many of you get a tip from you work for going exactly what you're suppopse to do and yeah, wee're all working to make the other guy rich and we're not seeing "tips".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You do realize that most massage therapist only work 25-30 hours due to the more intense job we have. I for one ALWAYS tip $20 for an hour. We as therapist touch your body, even glutes, sometimes after a client has worked out without bathing, or sun tanned without bathing, you sweat during massage, etc. You think that's necessary to complain about tipping when a therapist who works at Massage Envy is only making $16 an hour, again, only working 25 hours a week. I use my tip money to feed my family and put gas in my car because my entire paycheck goes to my bills. Or for therapists who rent their own room, they have linens to clean, lotions to buy, again, etc...the money you pay for the actual massage goes to the rent, insurance and continuing education classes we have to take to stay licensed. You people need to come down off your high horse 'oh I don't get tipped for my job' and realize the real situation. I'm sorry I don't sit at a desk for 40 hours, I bust my ass for my money.
I've worked over 300 hours a month for 4 months straight as a satellite tech, carrying ladders, equipment, walking on houses, crawling under them.. in extreme pacific northwest winter rain/wind for less than $16 an hour. I did get tipped maybe once or twice a week, out of 30 or more homes I'd do. I never looked for it, and I had the best customer survey scores out of our office so it wasn't due to a poor job.
I detail all this, because this was work i 'chose' to do. I do not imagine anyone forced you to be a massage therapist? I think it is you who are on some sort of 'high horse.'
This is exactly what I was thinking. Many people in this "industry" expect to get tipped when as most people have agreed it should be based on the service provided. While I do tip, it is only if I believe the individual deserves it. I have paid for a service and you are expected to do your best, if you don't why I should I compensate you any further? Because you have bills, family, etc? If it weren't for these customers (tippers or not), you would not have a job. Bottom line, if you are good at your job you don't have to worry about being tipped because you will be!![]()
Anyone who is or isn't in the industry could speculate on the things you would have to do. Dirty bodies, sweat, etc. is a given. Why should you be paid more because you have to 'handle' that? I can crawl under homes with hobo spiders and dead animals, among other things..in a 18" crawl space in the dark...some guys cant. I don't insist I get paid extra.. and neither do the guys who cant.
Realize you are your own limit, and if you aren't happy with the industry average for pay, find a new industry.
Anonymous wrote:So you pay $90 for a 60 minute massage, you're paying for the massage to be a good one, not half assed and if it is good, which is what you're paying to get, you tip anyway. Tipping is out of control. TIP stands for "To Ensure Prompt Service", not to get quality work/services or the alrady high price you're paying for the service, regardless if the person is the owner or not. I'll tip if they go over the hour, if they provide something more than the basic service I'm paying for. How many of you get a tip from you work for going exactly what you're suppopse to do and yeah, wee're all working to make the other guy rich and we're not seeing "tips".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:American service industries incorporate tipping because the owners are incapable to make sure their staff provide the prompt level of service. Neither do they have guts to increase the price outright. Tipping is basically a scam where owners abuse customer's kindness to motivate their own employees. In the restaurant business it's even worse. Owners just cut the employee's pay, and simply take all the tipping into their pockets.
Nobody tips in Asian countries like Japan, China, Taiwan... I don't see their service level going to hell. Actually the service is usually better than these spoiled "service professionals" in the US.
I'm sorry, but as a server/ bartender making minimum wage, we rely on our tips to make ends meat. And if your too cheap, stay home and eat for yourself. We also get taxed on our sales with the assumption that we're getting 15% tips, and all tips must be claimed and we get taxed on that as well. So if we get stiffed, we'te paying taxes on money we didn't get. FYI! If your service sucks, I get it. But don't be a cheap.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You do realize that most massage therapist only work 25-30 hours due to the more intense job we have. I for one ALWAYS tip $20 for an hour. We as therapist touch your body, even glutes, sometimes after a client has worked out without bathing, or sun tanned without bathing, you sweat during massage, etc. You think that's necessary to complain about tipping when a therapist who works at Massage Envy is only making $16 an hour, again, only working 25 hours a week. I use my tip money to feed my family and put gas in my car because my entire paycheck goes to my bills. Or for therapists who rent their own room, they have linens to clean, lotions to buy, again, etc...the money you pay for the actual massage goes to the rent, insurance and continuing education classes we have to take to stay licensed. You people need to come down off your high horse 'oh I don't get tipped for my job' and realize the real situation. I'm sorry I don't sit at a desk for 40 hours, I bust my ass for my money.
I don't sit at a desk either, and I also work hard, and our hourly rates are in the same range...but yet, I don't get tipped. So yeah...