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Anonymous wrote:I'll elaborate. A lot of it comes down to religious freedom. If "marriage" can be expanded, the worry is how does that affect churches that don't believe marriage is possible other than between a man and a woman? Is the govt going to make catholic charities allow gay adoptions? Are they going to make them offer gay couples marriage housing at catholic universities? Are they going to make priests officiate at gay marriages? The separation of church and state is not as absolute as many as you think and would like.

Civil unions are fine, the issue is calling it "marriage".

This is a tired old argument. No one is saying that a gay couple can come into your church and you have to marry them. Gay marriage means that a couple who DOES find an open-minded church that wants to marry them, get to be as married as anybody else.

Your church is still free to be as bigoted as it wants.

If catholic charities and catholic universities are not churches, then yes, they are subject to the same laws about discrimination in housing as anybody else. Rather than rehash this, do a search on dcurbanmom.com and birth control +catholic.

Not the pp, but I will say this. You're fooling yourself if you believe that churches won't be forced to marry gay couples if gay marriage is made legal on a federal level. I can just see the lawsuits coming from gay people who were denied their personal freedom to marry at a church.

And again, just because a person has viewpoints that are different from your own does not make them bigoted. It makes them different. Please grow up and realize that we all don't have to think and/or feel the same to get along and have respect for one another.

It makes you bigoted if you act on those beliefs, i.e. go to a voting booth. Then you're not just "different." You're a bigot. And no, I don't have to respect anyone who does that.

No, it doesn't make you a bigot. I understand that it's easy to stoop to name-calling when you're frustrated, but try to rise above.

Anonymous wrote:It's times like these I'm glad I'm not an American.

Although, it is interesting to see you argue about "rights" when you claim these things in your own Decleration of Independence. I guess you really are not the land of the free, or you are the land of the free as long as you are white and christian and don't want to marry someone of the same sex? Do I have that right?

When will you be leaving to return to the utopia that is your homeland?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll elaborate. A lot of it comes down to religious freedom. If "marriage" can be expanded, the worry is how does that affect churches that don't believe marriage is possible other than between a man and a woman? Is the govt going to make catholic charities allow gay adoptions? Are they going to make them offer gay couples marriage housing at catholic universities? Are they going to make priests officiate at gay marriages? The separation of church and state is not as absolute as many as you think and would like.

Civil unions are fine, the issue is calling it "marriage".

This is a tired old argument. No one is saying that a gay couple can come into your church and you have to marry them. Gay marriage means that a couple who DOES find an open-minded church that wants to marry them, get to be as married as anybody else.

Your church is still free to be as bigoted as it wants.

If catholic charities and catholic universities are not churches, then yes, they are subject to the same laws about discrimination in housing as anybody else. Rather than rehash this, do a search on dcurbanmom.com and birth control +catholic.

Not the pp, but I will say this. You're fooling yourself if you believe that churches won't be forced to marry gay couples if gay marriage is made legal on a federal level. I can just see the lawsuits coming from gay people who were denied their personal freedom to marry at a church.

And again, just because a person has viewpoints that are different from your own does not make them bigoted. It makes them different. Please grow up and realize that we all don't have to think and/or feel the same to get along and have respect for one another.

Just like the government forces churches to hire female priests and pastors? Oh, wait a minute....

And again, just because a person has viewpoints that are different from your own does not make them bigoted. It makes them different. Please grow up and realize that we all don't have to think and/or feel the same to get along and have respect for one another.

If you like vanilla and I like chocolate, we have a difference of opinion, but you're not a bigot. (Wrong, but not a bigot.)

If you vote Republican and I vote Democrat, we have a difference of opinion, but you're not a bigot.

If you are in favor of denying equal rights to a group of citizens, we have a difference of opinion, AND you're a bigot. Surely you can see the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:I'll elaborate. A lot of it comes down to religious freedom. If "marriage" can be expanded, the worry is how does that affect churches that don't believe marriage is possible other than between a man and a woman? Is the govt going to make catholic charities allow gay adoptions? Are they going to make them offer gay couples marriage housing at catholic universities? Are they going to make priests officiate at gay marriages? The separation of church and state is not as absolute as many as you think and would like.

Civil unions are fine, the issue is calling it "marriage".

This is a tired old argument. No one is saying that a gay couple can come into your church and you have to marry them. Gay marriage means that a couple who DOES find an open-minded church that wants to marry them, get to be as married as anybody else.

Your church is still free to be as bigoted as it wants.

If catholic charities and catholic universities are not churches, then yes, they are subject to the same laws about discrimination in housing as anybody else. Rather than rehash this, do a search on dcurbanmom.com and birth control +catholic.

Not the pp, but I will say this. You're fooling yourself if you believe that churches won't be forced to marry gay couples if gay marriage is made legal on a federal level. I can just see the lawsuits coming from gay people who were denied their personal freedom to marry at a church.

And again, just because a person has viewpoints that are different from your own does not make them bigoted. It makes them different. Please grow up and realize that we all don't have to think and/or feel the same to get along and have respect for one another.

Doubtful - "the church" whatever that is - I'm sure you know there are about a ZILLION of these things, wouldn't marry my brother and sister-in-law because of their interfaith beliefs. They had to go to another "the church" -

WHA???? There are more then one? Gasp!

http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2011/08/19/a-few-words-on-gay-marriage-gay-lunch-and-gay-parking/

Why do we keep calling it "gay marriage" - isn't it just marriage?

And I love how we sign our names -

Signed -

A white, hetrosexual, married women, with brown hair and brown eyes, maybe 5'6 and 5-6 lbs overweight, I like rainbows and puppydogs, I wear size 7.5 shoes but sometimes lie about wearing 7 and have freckles on my nose and have a brown cockerspaniel and a 2.5 year old and I just finished eating a poptart.

Does that make my opinion on marriage more relevant then yours? I think the fact that I had a poptart for breakfast does.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll elaborate. A lot of it comes down to religious freedom. If "marriage" can be expanded, the worry is how does that affect churches that don't believe marriage is possible other than between a man and a woman? Is the govt going to make catholic charities allow gay adoptions? Are they going to make them offer gay couples marriage housing at catholic universities? Are they going to make priests officiate at gay marriages? The separation of church and state is not as absolute as many as you think and would like.

Civil unions are fine, the issue is calling it "marriage".

This is a tired old argument. No one is saying that a gay couple can come into your church and you have to marry them. Gay marriage means that a couple who DOES find an open-minded church that wants to marry them, get to be as married as anybody else.

Your church is still free to be as bigoted as it wants.

If catholic charities and catholic universities are not churches, then yes, they are subject to the same laws about discrimination in housing as anybody else. Rather than rehash this, do a search on dcurbanmom.com and birth control +catholic.

Not the pp, but I will say this. You're fooling yourself if you believe that churches won't be forced to marry gay couples if gay marriage is made legal on a federal level. I can just see the lawsuits coming from gay people who were denied their personal freedom to marry at a church.

And again, just because a person has viewpoints that are different from your own does not make them bigoted. It makes them different. Please grow up and realize that we all don't have to think and/or feel the same to get along and have respect for one another.

It makes you bigoted if you act on those beliefs, i.e. go to a voting booth. Then you're not just "different." You're a bigot. And no, I don't have to respect anyone who does that.

Anonymous wrote:I'll elaborate. A lot of it comes down to religious freedom. If "marriage" can be expanded, the worry is how does that affect churches that don't believe marriage is possible other than between a man and a woman? Is the govt going to make catholic charities allow gay adoptions? Are they going to make them offer gay couples marriage housing at catholic universities? Are they going to make priests officiate at gay marriages? The separation of church and state is not as absolute as many as you think and would like.

Civil unions are fine, the issue is calling it "marriage".

I think this is a trite argument.

The government is currently not in the business of telling any churches who to marry and who not to marry. Pastors throughout the country refuse to officiate certain weddings because they feel that the heterosexual couple is not ready to marry.

Catholic charities currently allow adoptions to lesbian women. It is a don't ask, don't tell situation. I have a friend who adopted two children using CC. The counselor suspected or knew she was gay. Heck, you have to list everyone in your home and all adults must undergo security checks. However, as long as my friend did not articulate that she was sexually involved with her adult long-term female "roommate", it was A-OK.

To my knowledge, the government does not require any institutions to have housing. Did you also have issues with co-ed housing for singles.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll elaborate. A lot of it comes down to religious freedom. If "marriage" can be expanded, the worry is how does that affect churches that don't believe marriage is possible other than between a man and a woman? Is the govt going to make catholic charities allow gay adoptions? Are they going to make them offer gay couples marriage housing at catholic universities? Are they going to make priests officiate at gay marriages? The separation of church and state is not as absolute as many as you think and would like.

Civil unions are fine, the issue is calling it "marriage".

This is a tired old argument. No one is saying that a gay couple can come into your church and you have to marry them. Gay marriage means that a couple who DOES find an open-minded church that wants to marry them, get to be as married as anybody else.

Your church is still free to be as bigoted as it wants.

If catholic charities and catholic universities are not churches, then yes, they are subject to the same laws about discrimination in housing as anybody else. Rather than rehash this, do a search on dcurbanmom.com and birth control +catholic.

Not the pp, but I will say this. You're fooling yourself if you believe that churches won't be forced to marry gay couples if gay marriage is made legal on a federal level. I can just see the lawsuits coming from gay people who were denied their personal freedom to marry at a church.

And again, just because a person has viewpoints that are different from your own does not make them bigoted. It makes them different. Please grow up and realize that we all don't have to think and/or feel the same to get along and have respect for one another.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, And to those who dislike comparing marriage equality to the civil rights movement, please check out the July 2011 issue of black enterprise. There was an enlightening article about black political leaders who support the gay rights equality on the exact same tenants and principles as black civil rights. Why? Because equality is equality.

This is a funny (and inaccurate) line of reasoning. So, because some black people agree that the CRM/GRM are the same, all of us should fall in line? Sorry, but the days of speaking on behalf of black people are over. You don't get to say what we should and shouldn't believe. And we aren't going to be "guilted" into supporting something that we don't agree with. Get over it.

For those who went to UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, etc etc are you tearing up your diploma and saying you didn't go there?

Anonymous wrote:You religious people make me sick. You are just so hate filled, weak minded...go back to picking the funerals of our service members.

Pot....kettle....black. Way to lead with kind, open minded, non-judgement. Are all of your opinions the right ones?

You religious people make me sick. You are just so hate filled, weak minded...go back to picking the funerals of our service members.

It's times like these I'm glad I'm not an American.

Although, it is interesting to see you argue about "rights" when you claim these things in your own Decleration of Independence. I guess you really are not the land of the free, or you are the land of the free as long as you are white and christian and don't want to marry someone of the same sex? Do I have that right?

Anonymous wrote:Please consider spending your dollars elsewhere. The marriage amendment which was passed with over a 60% majority is not just about gay marriage. It also limits the rights of couples (and their children) who have made a choice not to enter into the traditional marriage contract. Do not throw away your beliefs on human rights for a week at the beach! There are plenty of those in the world.....

Will any of you who are on a high horse about this and are ready to vacate coastal NC please post the name and contact number of your real estate agent?