I know something that would REALLY shock the OP - I know a few dads who caught a buzz (smoked pot) before walking around with their kids. They do it every day, so I doubt they were more incapacitated more than any other day....

"No, sure I totally understand where you're coming from. I disagree with you, but think pig-fuckers like yourself have a right to their opinions. I just think the name-calling is tasteless, and should be out-of-bounds. "

geeze you has about as much class as the lady who thinks that she is upper crust at the beginning of this post who says that she is classy because she was not drinking beer out of her red cup.. she was drinking wine.. again.. I have to ask you.. do you take the dishes out of the sink before or after you piss in it? I like how you think name calling is tasteless and should be out of bounds.. but have no problem calling someone a pig fucker.. must have grown up on a farm. I can't even imagine coming up with the word pig fucker. I would have to be really drunk for that one.

I love me a good Vodka tonic on a chilly night!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is the law that makes it illegal to be drunk in public. It doesn't make it illegal to have an open container.

This distinction has been lost on the nutso who equates having one glass of wine/beer to being a drunk, irresponsible parent. We've tried. She just can't bring herself to admit that these are two very different things (drinking one glass of wine and drinking multiple glasses to the point where you are drunk).

This person is obviously hysterical, calling people "drunks" and telling them to "put down the glass" in every post. Something is wrong when you see drunks around every corner. She seems almost to be protesting too much.

No kidding! She'll get one sip and she's off her rocker, slamming beers and hanging from the chandaliers naked.

Anonymous wrote:Let me say that once again...

I don't need any excuses. It's my right to have an opinion as is yours. I don't care about what the drunks think of me but seems like the drunks do care about what I think and they've been calling me names and making up excuses for their poor choices for well over 10 pages.

A cup of coffe or a bar of chocolate does not impair one's judgment. Alcohol, Benadryl or whatever drug you want to talk about does impair the judgment and they should be used responsibly. I just think that drinking as you walk down the street in the dark with a bunch of kids is dangerous (and illegal in several places) so it's a poor choice in my opinion.

My age to be "cool" and do stupid things to try to fit in is long gone. My good friends accept me for who I am and I accept them for who they are. We're happy and it works for us.

Say whatever you want. In the end we'll all have to live with the consequences of our acts. And I enjoy being sober.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you guys had taken the time to read thoroughly you'd learn that a lot of people were arrested just because the cop testified saying the person was walking "funny" even though their blow test was below the legal limit.

I've been reading several forums and a lot of people got convicted based on eye witnesses.

I don't care about all the excuses you all make and the names you call. I can sure have fun without drugs and I'll just keep this way.

Now, good luck to you guys explaining yourselves in court trying to prove you were sober when the accident happened. Remember the old "it will never happen to me" one day will hit close to home and then it will be too late.

Just because people have been convicted because a cop said the walked funny doesn't make it right or legal. It is no excuse for passing judgement on anyone who consumes a drop of alcohol.

There are plenty of "drugs" I bet you consume. Coffee? Chocolate? Soda? Guess what - caffeine is a drug.
Do you take aspirin or tylenol or ibuprofen for a headache? You druggie you. Better not take that aspirin while taking care of your child. You know, accidents do happen, and it would be the fault of you taking aspirin.

I can and do have fun without consuming alcohol. I have alcohol maybe once every other month, never more than 2 drinks, usually only 1. But I'm not going to pass judgement on those that do drink more, as long as they do so responsibly.

Do you realize how idiotic you sound? Who are these drunks you keep talking about? You're not making any sense. Your posts have devolved into nonsensical name calling. "Put down the glass you drunken drunks who drink and become drunk." Um, OK.

Anonymous wrote:You're mixing up PPs. I never said drinking is evil. And the "drunks" is a joke that started several pages ago.

Keep up or I'll start thinking you're drinking already before dinner.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me say that once again...

I don't need any excuses. It's my right to have an opinion as is yours. I don't care about what the drunks think of me but seems like the drunks do care about what I think and they've been calling me names and making up excuses for their poor choices for well over 10 pages.

A cup of coffe or a bar of chocolate does not impair one's judgment. Alcohol, Benadryl or whatever drug you want to talk about does impair the judgment and they should be used responsibly. I just think that drinking as you walk down the street in the dark with a bunch of kids is dangerous (and illegal in several places) so it's a poor choice in my opinion.

My age to be "cool" and do stupid things to try to fit in is long gone. My good friends accept me for who I am and I accept them for who they are. We're happy and it works for us.

Say whatever you want. In the end we'll all have to live with the consequences of our acts. And I enjoy being sober.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you guys had taken the time to read thoroughly you'd learn that a lot of people were arrested just because the cop testified saying the person was walking "funny" even though their blow test was below the legal limit.

I've been reading several forums and a lot of people got convicted based on eye witnesses.

I don't care about all the excuses you all make and the names you call. I can sure have fun without drugs and I'll just keep this way.

Now, good luck to you guys explaining yourselves in court trying to prove you were sober when the accident happened. Remember the old "it will never happen to me" one day will hit close to home and then it will be too late.

Just because people have been convicted because a cop said the walked funny doesn't make it right or legal. It is no excuse for passing judgement on anyone who consumes a drop of alcohol.

There are plenty of "drugs" I bet you consume. Coffee? Chocolate? Soda? Guess what - caffeine is a drug.
Do you take aspirin or tylenol or ibuprofen for a headache? You druggie you. Better not take that aspirin while taking care of your child. You know, accidents do happen, and it would be the fault of you taking aspirin.

I can and do have fun without consuming alcohol. I have alcohol maybe once every other month, never more than 2 drinks, usually only 1. But I'm not going to pass judgement on those that do drink more, as long as they do so responsibly.

People are calling you names because you're utterly unreasonable and calling people who choose to have one glass of wine drunks. You get that, right? You've come up with dooms-day scenarios to support your claims that drinking is evil. It's ridiculous. I went out trick or treating with my kid without drinking, but I think it sounds fun for a bunch of parents to stay together throughout the night and have a drink. What is your problem exactly? Why do you feel the need to spew your judgments all over this board? You have a seriously unhealthy relationship with alcohol if this is your response. It's fine. We can't all keep it in check. Some are all or nothing people, and you're one of those nothing people. That's fine. But understand that calling anyone who drinks a beer or a glass of wine a drunk isn't going to sit well with anyone.
Now, go have your cup of tea and just be quiet.

Who wants to read all 18 pages of you blithering about drunks and trick or treating?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
That is the law that makes it illegal to be drunk in public. It doesn't make it illegal to have an open container.

This distinction has been lost on the nutso who equates having one glass of wine/beer to being a drunk, irresponsible parent. We've tried. She just can't bring herself to admit that these are two very different things (drinking one glass of wine and drinking multiple glasses to the point where you are drunk).

This person is obviously hysterical, calling people "drunks" and telling them to "put down the glass" in every post. Something is wrong when you see drunks around every corner. She seems almost to be protesting too much.

We were sitting on our front porch handing out candy while having wine/beer. Wonder what all those moms coming up to "get candy for the baby" thought of us?

Our entire neighborhood drinks while T-O-T. People offer them to you when you bring your kid up to their door. What the hell is the big deal? I'm a grown ass adult.

Anonymous wrote:Let me say that once again...

I don't need any excuses. It's my right to have an opinion as is yours. I don't care about what the drunks think of me but seems like the drunks do care about what I think and they've been calling me names and making up excuses for their poor choices for well over 10 pages...

No, sure I totally understand where you're coming from. I disagree with you, but think pig-fuckers like yourself have a right to their opinions. I just think the name-calling is tasteless, and should be out-of-bounds.

Anonymous wrote:Are we really still arguing this? What is left to say? The horse is dead folks.

It's a matter of he who posts last has the last word. There's the poster who thinks anyone who has one drink is a drunk (of course, s/he says it was a joke now), versus those of us who think most people can drink responsibly. It will keep going until one side gives up and stops posting.

Anonymous wrote:You're mixing up PPs. I never said drinking is evil. And the "drunks" is a joke that started several pages ago.

Keep up or I'll start thinking you're drinking already before dinner.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me say that once again...

I don't need any excuses. It's my right to have an opinion as is yours. I don't care about what the drunks think of me but seems like the drunks do care about what I think and they've been calling me names and making up excuses for their poor choices for well over 10 pages.

A cup of coffe or a bar of chocolate does not impair one's judgment. Alcohol, Benadryl or whatever drug you want to talk about does impair the judgment and they should be used responsibly. I just think that drinking as you walk down the street in the dark with a bunch of kids is dangerous (and illegal in several places) so it's a poor choice in my opinion.

My age to be "cool" and do stupid things to try to fit in is long gone. My good friends accept me for who I am and I accept them for who they are. We're happy and it works for us.

Say whatever you want. In the end we'll all have to live with the consequences of our acts. And I enjoy being sober.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you guys had taken the time to read thoroughly you'd learn that a lot of people were arrested just because the cop testified saying the person was walking "funny" even though their blow test was below the legal limit.

I've been reading several forums and a lot of people got convicted based on eye witnesses.

I don't care about all the excuses you all make and the names you call. I can sure have fun without drugs and I'll just keep this way.

Now, good luck to you guys explaining yourselves in court trying to prove you were sober when the accident happened. Remember the old "it will never happen to me" one day will hit close to home and then it will be too late.

Just because people have been convicted because a cop said the walked funny doesn't make it right or legal. It is no excuse for passing judgement on anyone who consumes a drop of alcohol.

There are plenty of "drugs" I bet you consume. Coffee? Chocolate? Soda? Guess what - caffeine is a drug.
Do you take aspirin or tylenol or ibuprofen for a headache? You druggie you. Better not take that aspirin while taking care of your child. You know, accidents do happen, and it would be the fault of you taking aspirin.

I can and do have fun without consuming alcohol. I have alcohol maybe once every other month, never more than 2 drinks, usually only 1. But I'm not going to pass judgement on those that do drink more, as long as they do so responsibly.

People are calling you names because you're utterly unreasonable and calling people who choose to have one glass of wine drunks. You get that, right? You've come up with dooms-day scenarios to support your claims that drinking is evil. It's ridiculous. I went out trick or treating with my kid without drinking, but I think it sounds fun for a bunch of parents to stay together throughout the night and have a drink. What is your problem exactly? Why do you feel the need to spew your judgments all over this board? You have a seriously unhealthy relationship with alcohol if this is your response. It's fine. We can't all keep it in check. Some are all or nothing people, and you're one of those nothing people. That's fine. But understand that calling anyone who drinks a beer or a glass of wine a drunk isn't going to sit well with anyone.
Now, go have your cup of tea and just be quiet.

Obviously, your way of "joking" doesn't come across as "joking" to many of us. I certainly didn't take calling any of us who consume alcohol "drunks" as a joke.

You're mixing up PPs. I never said drinking is evil. And the "drunks" is a joke that started several pages ago.

Keep up or I'll start thinking you're drinking already before dinner.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me say that once again...

I don't need any excuses. It's my right to have an opinion as is yours. I don't care about what the drunks think of me but seems like the drunks do care about what I think and they've been calling me names and making up excuses for their poor choices for well over 10 pages.

A cup of coffe or a bar of chocolate does not impair one's judgment. Alcohol, Benadryl or whatever drug you want to talk about does impair the judgment and they should be used responsibly. I just think that drinking as you walk down the street in the dark with a bunch of kids is dangerous (and illegal in several places) so it's a poor choice in my opinion.

My age to be "cool" and do stupid things to try to fit in is long gone. My good friends accept me for who I am and I accept them for who they are. We're happy and it works for us.

Say whatever you want. In the end we'll all have to live with the consequences of our acts. And I enjoy being sober.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you guys had taken the time to read thoroughly you'd learn that a lot of people were arrested just because the cop testified saying the person was walking "funny" even though their blow test was below the legal limit.

I've been reading several forums and a lot of people got convicted based on eye witnesses.

I don't care about all the excuses you all make and the names you call. I can sure have fun without drugs and I'll just keep this way.

Now, good luck to you guys explaining yourselves in court trying to prove you were sober when the accident happened. Remember the old "it will never happen to me" one day will hit close to home and then it will be too late.

Just because people have been convicted because a cop said the walked funny doesn't make it right or legal. It is no excuse for passing judgement on anyone who consumes a drop of alcohol.

There are plenty of "drugs" I bet you consume. Coffee? Chocolate? Soda? Guess what - caffeine is a drug.
Do you take aspirin or tylenol or ibuprofen for a headache? You druggie you. Better not take that aspirin while taking care of your child. You know, accidents do happen, and it would be the fault of you taking aspirin.

I can and do have fun without consuming alcohol. I have alcohol maybe once every other month, never more than 2 drinks, usually only 1. But I'm not going to pass judgement on those that do drink more, as long as they do so responsibly.

People are calling you names because you're utterly unreasonable and calling people who choose to have one glass of wine drunks. You get that, right? You've come up with dooms-day scenarios to support your claims that drinking is evil. It's ridiculous. I went out trick or treating with my kid without drinking, but I think it sounds fun for a bunch of parents to stay together throughout the night and have a drink. What is your problem exactly? Why do you feel the need to spew your judgments all over this board? You have a seriously unhealthy relationship with alcohol if this is your response. It's fine. We can't all keep it in check. Some are all or nothing people, and you're one of those nothing people. That's fine. But understand that calling anyone who drinks a beer or a glass of wine a drunk isn't going to sit well with anyone.
Now, go have your cup of tea and just be quiet.

Sorry, last post didn't post correctly.

"I don't care about what the drunks think of me but seems like the drunks do care about what I think and they've been calling me names and making up excuses for their poor choices for well over 10 pages."

This is why some are calling you names. Calling anyone who consumes one beverage a "drunk" is first wrong (one drink does not intoxicate most people), and 2. judgemental for our choices and lastly, mean. You wouldn't be called mommymartyr if you refrained from making blanket assumptions and judgements on people that have one drink.

I drank on halloween night while out with my children. The amount of alcohol in the drink was probably less than one beer (3 oz of a margarita, to be exact). I live in a neighborhood with street lights, we were never more than 1 block from our home, and we were home, safe and snug before 7:30. So for you to be condescending towards me and people like me, who consumed very little in a very responsible manner is reprehensible. You need to look in the mirror and figure out why you consider anyone who takes one drink to be "drunk". Maybe a history in the family of alcoholism?

Are we really still arguing this? What is left to say? The horse is dead folks.