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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between China Syria etc. and Israel is that China does not have to lock half of the population in an open air prison in order to remain as China.

Wow, could you be more ignorant (and hypocritical)?

Uyghur ethnic persecution by the People's Republic of China is one of the most extensively documented contemporary human rights crises. Since approximately 2017, China has implemented a system of mass arbitrary detention, surveillance, forced labour, restrictions on religious practice, family separation, and cultural erasure targeting Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic peoples in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR). Furthermore, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights' August 2022 assessment concluded that the violations may amount to crimes against humanity. The US, UK Parliament, and Canadian Parliament have determined the conduct constitutes genocide. As a result, Uyghur asylum claims are among the most evidentially robust under the Refugee Convention.

Beyond detention, China is engaged in a systematic effort to erase Uyghur culture. Policies include: destruction of mosques (estimated 16,000 destroyed or damaged according to ASPI); banning of Uyghur-language education; forced separation of children from parents (residential boarding schools mandated for children whose parents are detained); restrictions on Uyghur naming practices; mandated use of Mandarin; replacement of Uyghur cultural symbols. Furthermore, traditional shrines and historical sites have been bulldozed. As a result, the cultural foundation of Uyghur identity is being systematically dismantled. Therefore, the persecution targets not only individuals but the existence of the Uyghur people as a distinct community.[5]

Uyghur ethnic persecution is among the most documented and internationally condemned human rights crises today. The combination of mass detention, cultural erasure, family separation, forced labour, and forced sterilisation has generated UN, parliamentary, and tribunal findings that include genocide and crimes against humanity. As a result, Uyghur asylum claims should be granted on a presumption of protection. Therefore, refusal of Uyghur claims is rarely defensible — and where it occurs, appeal success is highly likely.

https://thehuman-rights.com/uyghurs-china-systematic-detention-cultural-erasure/

What is this called again in rhetorical terms?

Oh yes, WHATABOUTISM.

We are not talking about China. We are not giving weapons to China.

We are propping up the monstrous fake nation of Israel.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

these are all countries; Israel is a fake country that only continues because of apartheid

This is the response of someone who has absolutely no intelligent rebuttal to the PP's question. Thanks for showing us how utterly ridiculous you are.

Actually Israel is a fake country being propped up by a policy of apartheid and ethnic cleansing- without these crimes against humanity it would no longer be a “Jewish” state and would be thrown into chaos, a situation that the Israelis manufactured for themselves. Which part of that do you disagree with?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between China Syria etc. and Israel is that China does not have to lock half of the population in an open air prison in order to remain as China.

Wow, could you be more ignorant (and hypocritical)?

Uyghur ethnic persecution by the People's Republic of China is one of the most extensively documented contemporary human rights crises. Since approximately 2017, China has implemented a system of mass arbitrary detention, surveillance, forced labour, restrictions on religious practice, family separation, and cultural erasure targeting Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other predominantly Muslim Turkic peoples in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR). Furthermore, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights' August 2022 assessment concluded that the violations may amount to crimes against humanity. The US, UK Parliament, and Canadian Parliament have determined the conduct constitutes genocide. As a result, Uyghur asylum claims are among the most evidentially robust under the Refugee Convention.

Beyond detention, China is engaged in a systematic effort to erase Uyghur culture. Policies include: destruction of mosques (estimated 16,000 destroyed or damaged according to ASPI); banning of Uyghur-language education; forced separation of children from parents (residential boarding schools mandated for children whose parents are detained); restrictions on Uyghur naming practices; mandated use of Mandarin; replacement of Uyghur cultural symbols. Furthermore, traditional shrines and historical sites have been bulldozed. As a result, the cultural foundation of Uyghur identity is being systematically dismantled. Therefore, the persecution targets not only individuals but the existence of the Uyghur people as a distinct community.[5]

Uyghur ethnic persecution is among the most documented and internationally condemned human rights crises today. The combination of mass detention, cultural erasure, family separation, forced labour, and forced sterilisation has generated UN, parliamentary, and tribunal findings that include genocide and crimes against humanity. As a result, Uyghur asylum claims should be granted on a presumption of protection. Therefore, refusal of Uyghur claims is rarely defensible — and where it occurs, appeal success is highly likely.

https://thehuman-rights.com/uyghurs-china-systematic-detention-cultural-erasure/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

Yasss queen you go volunteer in your genocidal ethnostate that is going to self destruct

DP. Seek help, you mental midget.

Anonymous wrote:The difference between China Syria etc. and Israel is that China does not have to lock half of the population in an open air prison in order to remain as China.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

these are all countries; Israel is a fake country that only continues because of apartheid

This is the response of someone who has absolutely no intelligent rebuttal to the PP's question. Thanks for showing us how utterly ridiculous you are.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

DP. Funny, I just wrote something similar. It is funny, isn't it, how other countries receive a completely different reaction when they commit atrocities. The hypocrisy is so blatant it's palpable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

these are all countries; Israel is a fake country that only continues because of apartheid

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

Yasss queen you go volunteer in your genocidal ethnostate that is going to self destruct

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference between China Syria etc. and Israel is that China does not have to lock half of the population in an open air prison in order to remain as China.

I always find it so curious that the same people who are outraged over Israel/Gaza have nothing at all to say about China's atrocities against the Uyghur people or Syria's mass atrocities against their own people. No college campus protests, no heated debates anywhere, much less here on DCUM. I wonder why that could be?

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

Anonymous wrote:The difference between China Syria etc. and Israel is that China does not have to lock half of the population in an open air prison in order to remain as China.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it's been busy since I stepped away to enjoy myself with friends last night. Doesn't anyone have holiday plans?

I'm the poster from yesterday who explained in a nuanced (thank you, PP, for acknowledging this!) way why I, as an American Jew, support Israel. It may shock you to learn that I am nauseated by the actions of the violent settlers and also by Ben-Gvir and his minions just as I am by the January 6th thugs and Trump. That doesn't negate my attachment to Israel and its people. Do you demand of the Chinese people on this site that they renounce China due to its treatment of the Uyghurs? How about Russian posters--are they allowed to have warm feelings toward their homeland and their relatives or must they sever ties because of Putin? How about the Syrians here? Hungarians? You see how silly that all sounds?

Anyway, you can keep at each other's throats if you like. I'll be finishing my application for a volunteer program in the Holy Land later this year and enjoying a good Mary Gaitskill novel and some chocolate. Peace to everyone.