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Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

we know republicans are evil.

but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!

show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?

meanwhile. the evil party is ...

Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.

Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.

This is all great, but even if this passes, available jobs for American citizens are unlikely to increase without also targeting outsourcing. Every major fortune 500 company has an offshore outlet or a contract with a big offshore bodyshop to provide labor that could be done by our grads easily in the USA. The number of these positions across all the companies is enormous. Right now there is zero penalty or any type of tax for our corporations to offshore the entire departments if they wanted to. It's time to tax this sh*t. I don't see how these extra profits are trickling down to us.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

we know republicans are evil.

but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!

show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?

meanwhile. the evil party is ...

Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.

Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.

DP. It's silly to look at this in a vacuum. To say that Dems don't want to help workers because they've only called for restrictions on the plan, not elimination.

What's missing is a robust debate? What is the MAGA plan for healthcare if we do this? Dems have called on limitations on healthcare visas because rural healthcare is already suffering. You have to balance US workforce versus other issues -- there's lobbyists on both sides. Take solar, do we want green energy or US jobs and how to best balance the two interests.

So far, MAGA has given us no plan for what happens when all these immigrants go away. What's the PLAN? They haven't increased schooling (and in fact, are trying to curb college funding if colleges aren't loyal), nor have they talked about who is going to care for GenX in 20 years with a population falling off the cliff?

I'm willing to support policies that are well thought out, not just a boogeyman vote getter, which is all this is. If you think MAGA wants to hurt the billionaire class, there is no debating with you.

Whose fault is it there is no debate? We asked Biden what his policy plans were, "Trust me I'm not Trump".

I don't know what to tell you. If you're upset about the lack debate, why are you screaming at Republicans?

Oh, I know you just want a debate to delay and obfuscate.

When are American worker's voices going to be heard, what role do they have in the debate, and when is the mainstream media going to shut their traps.

If you think my post was "screaming" then we stop here. Dems talk policy all the time but it backfires on them. People like sound bites.

American workers have their voices heard by contacting their elected congresspeople, having their unions lobby (which MAGA wants to bust), voting, running for office, and organizing locally. Just like the rest of us.

But, what about Trump? Did he outline a plan at his SOTU? That's when most presidents talk about their policies. Trump is a master at social media, yet he hasn't talked about his plan for workers or what happens when we don't have immigrants. It's a lot of hyperbole and bluster.

Are you thinking about the unintended consequences of dramatically decreasing immigrants? It doesn't sound like solution is just hire all these willing Americans, as wonderful as that might be--it's not proving to be realistic.

I don't "have immigrants".

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Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

we know republicans are evil.

but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!

show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?

meanwhile. the evil party is ...

Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.

Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.

DP. It's silly to look at this in a vacuum. To say that Dems don't want to help workers because they've only called for restrictions on the plan, not elimination.

What's missing is a robust debate? What is the MAGA plan for healthcare if we do this? Dems have called on limitations on healthcare visas because rural healthcare is already suffering. You have to balance US workforce versus other issues -- there's lobbyists on both sides. Take solar, do we want green energy or US jobs and how to best balance the two interests.

So far, MAGA has given us no plan for what happens when all these immigrants go away. What's the PLAN? They haven't increased schooling (and in fact, are trying to curb college funding if colleges aren't loyal), nor have they talked about who is going to care for GenX in 20 years with a population falling off the cliff?

I'm willing to support policies that are well thought out, not just a boogeyman vote getter, which is all this is. If you think MAGA wants to hurt the billionaire class, there is no debating with you.

Whose fault is it there is no debate? We asked Biden what his policy plans were, "Trust me I'm not Trump".

I don't know what to tell you. If you're upset about the lack debate, why are you screaming at Republicans?

Oh, I know you just want a debate to delay and obfuscate.

When are American worker's voices going to be heard, what role do they have in the debate, and when is the mainstream media going to shut their traps.

If you think my post was "screaming" then we stop here. Dems talk policy all the time but it backfires on them. People like sound bites.

American workers have their voices heard by contacting their elected congresspeople, having their unions lobby (which MAGA wants to bust), voting, running for office, and organizing locally. Just like the rest of us.

But, what about Trump? Did he outline a plan at his SOTU? That's when most presidents talk about their policies. Trump is a master at social media, yet he hasn't talked about his plan for workers or what happens when we don't have immigrants. It's a lot of hyperbole and bluster.

Are you thinking about the unintended consequences of dramatically decreasing immigrants? It doesn't sound like solution is just hire all these willing Americans, as wonderful as that might be--it's not proving to be realistic.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

we know republicans are evil.

but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!

show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?

meanwhile. the evil party is ...

Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.

Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.

DP. It's silly to look at this in a vacuum. To say that Dems don't want to help workers because they've only called for restrictions on the plan, not elimination.

What's missing is a robust debate? What is the MAGA plan for healthcare if we do this? Dems have called on limitations on healthcare visas because rural healthcare is already suffering. You have to balance US workforce versus other issues -- there's lobbyists on both sides. Take solar, do we want green energy or US jobs and how to best balance the two interests.

So far, MAGA has given us no plan for what happens when all these immigrants go away. What's the PLAN? They haven't increased schooling (and in fact, are trying to curb college funding if colleges aren't loyal), nor have they talked about who is going to care for GenX in 20 years with a population falling off the cliff?

I'm willing to support policies that are well thought out, not just a boogeyman vote getter, which is all this is. If you think MAGA wants to hurt the billionaire class, there is no debating with you.

Whose fault is it there is no debate? We asked Biden what his policy plans were, "Trust me I'm not Trump".

I don't know what to tell you. If you're upset about the lack debate, why are you screaming at Republicans?

Oh, I know you just want a debate to delay and obfuscate.

When are American worker's voices going to be heard, what role do they have in the debate, and when is the mainstream media going to shut their traps.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

we know republicans are evil.

but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!

show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?

meanwhile. the evil party is ...

Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.

Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.

Dems do want to help workers by..

1. offering parental leave
2. helping with childcare costs
3. providing affordable health insurance
4. increasing minimum wage
5. investing in renewable energy to create jobs, not to mention reduce reliance on dirty fuel and foreign energy, which leads us to...
6. not starting a stupid foreign war that increases gas and food prices
7. not starting a stupid trade war that increases prices overall.

They are indeed stupid, though, for listening to tech execs, but what's truly evil is that Trump knows that it hurts American workers yet still imports these foreign workers over American workers and will do the bidding of corporations as long as they enrich him.

Stupid is stupid, but hypocrisy, greed and evil is just that. Stupid people can learn; greedy evil people like Trump don't change their ways. He's had 60 years to do that. He's not changing now, especially now that he has dementia.

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show a list of Democrats advocating for reforming H1B or OPT or L1

name a few, sounds like in your world, Democrats are all for supporting US workers first. i dont see it , so help me.

come on

you are so fast

please list the Democrats advocating for repeal or limiting H1B or Optional Practical Training or L1 visas????

please

Anonymous wrote:Apologies for grammar ^^ on phone and typing fast.

show a list of Democrats advocating for reforming H1B or OPT or L1

name a few, sounds like in your world, Democrats are all for supporting US workers first. i dont see it , so help me.

Apologies for grammar ^^ on phone and typing fast.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

we know republicans are evil.

but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!

show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?

meanwhile. the evil party is ...

Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.

Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.

DP. It's silly to look at this in a vacuum. To say that Dems don't want to help workers because they've only called for restrictions on the plan, not elimination.

What's missing is a robust debate? What is the MAGA plan for healthcare if we do this? Dems have called on limitations on healthcare visas because rural healthcare is already suffering. You have to balance US workforce versus other issues -- there's lobbyists on both sides. Take solar, do we want green energy or US jobs and how to best balance the two interests.

So far, MAGA has given us no plan for what happens when all these immigrants go away. What's the PLAN? They haven't increased schooling (and in fact, are trying to curb college funding if colleges aren't loyal), nor have they talked about who is going to care for GenX in 20 years with a population falling off the cliff?

I'm willing to support policies that are well thought out, not just a boogeyman vote getter, which is all this is. If you think MAGA wants to hurt the billionaire class, there is no debating with you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

we know republicans are evil.

but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!

show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?

meanwhile. the evil party is ...

Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.

Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 5 US university H-1B filers over the past decade

1. University of Michigan
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Penn
4. Columbia
5. Emory

Median wages: $68-$77k

Tech median H-1B wage is $97.6k

Academia pays H-1B workers a deep discount for jobs that could easily be done by Americans.

This is a good thing, there should be visas for top researchers. This doesn't depress wages, these are temporary positions regardless.

factually wrong but you already know that.

1. if you a recent immigrant and want to keep the pipeline open , it makes sense to bring over the entire village.

2. Of if you are an administrator at a hospital or medical center, it also makes sense to import as many cheap workers as possible.

3. but if you are a regular US worker or consumer you are either naive or just plain dumb.

They Passed Over American Doctors

The biggest lie in the U.S. healthcare debate is that we do not have enough American doctors. The truth is simple. We produce them. We just refuse to train them.

In 2024 nearly 20 percent of U.S. medical school seniors failed to match into a residency. That is 8,869 qualified graduates who spent years in school, passed their boards, took on massive debt, and still never got the one thing they need to practice medicine.

At the same time more than 9,700 foreign trained doctors matched into U.S. residencies in 2025. Many hospitals prefer them because they accept lower pay, longer hours, and have no leverage to complain. You cannot practice medicine in the United States without residency. So if Americans are locked out, someone else will fill the spot.

The choke point is not medical school. It is the federally funded residency cap. Congress has not increased these slots fast enough while medical school enrollment has exploded. The result is a rigged bottleneck that leaves American doctors unmatched while taxpayer dollars train replacements from overseas.

The Resident Physician Shortage Reduction Act of 2025 would add 14,000 residency slots over seven years. Even that will not undo years of damage, but it is proof that Washington knows the system is broken.

Until Congress expands residency slots at the scale required, the United States will keep graduating qualified doctors who never get to practice. Then hospitals will turn around and say there is a physician shortage and use it as an excuse to import more foreign labor.

It is not a shortage. It is policy.

Citations
• AMA, Biggest Match Day Ever, 2025 data
• AAMC, Medical School Enrollment Growth vs Residency Bottleneck
• Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates, IMG Match Statistics 2025
• Norton Rose Fulbright, Congressional Inquiry into Residency Accreditation and Matching Practices
• People Magazine, U.S. Graduate Denied Residency, 2024

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Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:

Trump increases visa:

first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/

second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown

Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.

I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.

Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

Who's your saviour now?

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Anonymous wrote:
I've worked in the tech industry for 20+ years, and I've seen H1s flood the industry, and more and more jobs offshored, so I know a bit about this whole situation.

But, your attitude really scares me. It reminds me of how Germans tolerated the evil that his Hitler because at least they had jobs. Just how much evil are you willing to accept for your job? People like you are willing to sell their souls to the devil for a job. If there was an apocalypse, people like you would be the ones to eat a baby because you were starving.

Trump and people like you have shown me that our civilization is just a veneer, that underneath this "great America", it's full of racist, selfish aholes who would support someone like Hitler if it meant that they could have a job and nice things.

In a few more years Americans are going to be stating the government got bought and paid for by the South Asian scam pipeline replacing American high tech workers with South Asians.

Don't you get it, or are you stupid? These are not good people. They don't give a rat's ass Americans are losing their livelihoods due to a SCAM pipeline extending from India to the U.S. government to Human Resources personnel. It's not even about the company's saving money. It's all about greasing palms and corruption.

So.. let me understand... you acknowledge that the system and people are corrupt, greedy, people greasing palms, but then you go support a corrupt, greedy, evil leader (Trump) who is all about having people grease his palm? Because you like what he says even though not so behind the scene he is corrupt, greedy, evil and expecting to have his palm greased?

MAGA logic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.

Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.

ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant

ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants

ask Rubio - family were immigrants

ask Miller - family were refugees

Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?

It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor

It's not always cheaper labor.

In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.

I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.

show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?

a SINGLE democrat ???????

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I've worked in the tech industry for 20+ years, and I've seen H1s flood the industry, and more and more jobs offshored, so I know a bit about this whole situation.

But, your attitude really scares me. It reminds me of how Germans tolerated the evil that his Hitler because at least they had jobs. Just how much evil are you willing to accept for your job? People like you are willing to sell their souls to the devil for a job. If there was an apocalypse, people like you would be the ones to eat a baby because you were starving.

Trump and people like you have shown me that our civilization is just a veneer, that underneath this "great America", it's full of racist, selfish aholes who would support someone like Hitler if it meant that they could have a job and nice things.

In a few more years Americans are going to be stating the government got bought and paid for by the South Asian scam pipeline replacing American high tech workers with South Asians.

Don't you get it, or are you stupid? These are not good people. They don't give a rat's ass Americans are losing their livelihoods due to a SCAM pipeline extending from India to the U.S. government to Human Resources personnel. It's not even about the company's saving money. It's all about greasing palms and corruption.

hey dummy, I know what's going on but I am not going to blame a lowly paid H1 worker who is following the rules.

You are stupid. This is not a Dem problem. This is a corporate greed problem, where many of these corporate execs have been funneling money to the Trump family.

Has increasing the fees to $100K created more jobs for American IT workers? LOL There are layoff happening everywhere even as corporations are making record profits furthered by the huge tax cuts Trump gave them.

Open your eyes. This is about greed, and the politicians and rich families like the Trumps who make money by buying and selling favors.

As an example: Apple had to kiss Trump's a$$ to get favors. That's the problem with American capitalism.