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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

The DC Metro has the highest concentration of Black Americans getting 1400 + higher on Sat

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w12078/w12078.pdf

I don't see that in the paper. Do you have a page number?

Here are some Numbers

2025 - Virginia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-virginia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - Maryland https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-maryland-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - DC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-district-of-columbia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - California https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-california-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - Texas https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-texas-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2025 - Florida https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-florida-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - Georgia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-georgia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-north-carolina-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NY https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-new-york-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - MAss https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-massachusetts-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

If you look at the numbers the White admission rates to elite schools should be much lower... WTF is going on

Yeah it wasn't minorities taking the spot of Asians

It was anti-asian discrimination in race conscious college admissions

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

Since almost all schools superscore, you are grossly underestimating the numbers of kids with higher scores…the discrepancy, while undoubtedly large, also would be smaller because, on average, Asians take the test more times, even than whites - and blacks the least.

If this data is correct , The ivy league would be

Asian - 50%

White - 46%

Hispanic - 3%

Black - 1%

If they went purely on academics, yes

White people want enough academics to eliminate blacks and Hispanics but not so much academics as to eliminate them. So it’s kind of like merit-lite.

Pretty sure that isn't the case. SFFA had to recruit Asians for SFFA v Harvard because they could not get any white candidates to sign on.

They tried with white plaintiffs in the Texas case. SFFA was entirely about discrimination against asians. They didn't use white plaintiffs because they couldn't show discrimination against white plaintiffs compared to asians. They could show discrimination against asians compared to whites.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

Since almost all schools superscore, you are grossly underestimating the numbers of kids with higher scores…the discrepancy, while undoubtedly large, also would be smaller because, on average, Asians take the test more times, even than whites - and blacks the least.

If this data is correct , The ivy league would be

Asian - 50%

White - 46%

Hispanic - 3%

Black - 1%

If they went purely on academics, yes

THE Asian success story in the United States is truly inspiring

Being previously rich or highly educated in your past country, residing only in remarkably expensive coastal areas for the rich, and then being rich are now success stories?


Most of the Asian demographics who are from actually poor/war torn backgrounds are struggling and doing terribly in the US. You’re just focused on the East Asian people wealthy crowd.

Asian Americans are the race with the largest inequality gap.

Large numbers of rich asian immigrants is a VERY recent phenomenon.
Large numbers of highly educated H1B asians are a fairly recent phenomenon.
Asians have been academically successful in America for a very long time.

Asians don't go to expensive coastal cities because they are rich, they go there because that is where the opportunity is. I mean a lot of black and hispanic immigrants also immigrate to expensive coastal cities.
Asians in the wealthy coastal city of New York have the highest poverty rate among all ethnic groups.
Asians at Stuyvesant in NYC have a higher incidence of free lunch than the average stuy student.

Most second generations asians are the children of de facto economic refugees.
The Koreans were mostly fleeing a brutal military dictatorship. You really think the dry cleaner and grocery store stereotype comes form thin air?
The Chinese were fleeing communism. You think all the waiter and waitresses at the chinese restaurants are related to the owner or something?
The Indians and Pakistanis were also economic immigrants. You really think the stereotype of driving taxicabs and running convenience stores comes from thin air?

Until recently asian immigrants came here with little to nothing. The success we see in America is not based on the recent influx of rich asians. Calling out the anti-asian discrimination might be driven by rich asians that are not used to being treated poorly but they are not the reason asians are perceived as successful.

This is complete revisionist history. Asian American immigrants were successful members of their past societies. We don't just let anyone into the country. Asians have the largest divide in income equality of any race, because the war torn asians (of which there are much fewer) make a lot less than the rich Korean, Chinese, Indians, and Japanese immigrants. The "taxicab" stereotype is racism by white people who couldn't tell you the difference between a Cambodian and Indian, and it's embarrassing that this is where you base your opinions from.

You are ignoring history before the dot com boom.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

Since almost all schools superscore, you are grossly underestimating the numbers of kids with higher scores…the discrepancy, while undoubtedly large, also would be smaller because, on average, Asians take the test more times, even than whites - and blacks the least.

If this data is correct , The ivy league would be

Asian - 50%

White - 46%

Hispanic - 3%

Black - 1%

If they went purely on academics, yes

THE Asian success story in the United States is truly inspiring

Being previously rich or highly educated in your past country, residing only in remarkably expensive coastal areas for the rich, and then being rich are now success stories?


Most of the Asian demographics who are from actually poor/war torn backgrounds are struggling and doing terribly in the US. You’re just focused on the East Asian people wealthy crowd.

Asian Americans are the race with the largest inequality gap.

Large numbers of rich asian immigrants is a VERY recent phenomenon.
Large numbers of highly educated H1B asians are a fairly recent phenomenon.
Asians have been academically successful in America for a very long time.

Asians don't go to expensive coastal cities because they are rich, they go there because that is where the opportunity is. I mean a lot of black and hispanic immigrants also immigrate to expensive coastal cities.
Asians in the wealthy coastal city of New York have the highest poverty rate among all ethnic groups.
Asians at Stuyvesant in NYC have a higher incidence of free lunch than the average stuy student.

Most second generations asians are the children of de facto economic refugees.
The Koreans were mostly fleeing a brutal military dictatorship. You really think the dry cleaner and grocery store stereotype comes form thin air?
The Chinese were fleeing communism. You think all the waiter and waitresses at the chinese restaurants are related to the owner or something?
The Indians and Pakistanis were also economic immigrants. You really think the stereotype of driving taxicabs and running convenience stores comes from thin air?

Until recently asian immigrants came here with little to nothing. The success we see in America is not based on the recent influx of rich asians. Calling out the anti-asian discrimination might be driven by rich asians that are not used to being treated poorly but they are not the reason asians are perceived as successful.

This is complete revisionist history. Asian American immigrants were successful members of their past societies. We don't just let anyone into the country. Asians have the largest divide in income equality of any race, because the war torn asians (of which there are much fewer) make a lot less than the rich Korean, Chinese, Indians, and Japanese immigrants. The "taxicab" stereotype is racism by white people who couldn't tell you the difference between a Cambodian and Indian, and it's embarrassing that this is where you base your opinions from.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

Either way it is a compliment, not Jim Crow because someone thinks you’re intelligent.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

The DC Metro has the highest concentration of Black Americans getting 1400 + higher on Sat

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w12078/w12078.pdf

I don't see that in the paper. Do you have a page number?

Here are some Numbers

2025 - Virginia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-virginia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - Maryland https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-maryland-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - DC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-district-of-columbia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - California https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-california-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - Texas https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-texas-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2025 - Florida https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-florida-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - Georgia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-georgia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-north-carolina-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NY https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-new-york-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - MAss https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-massachusetts-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

If you look at the numbers the White admission rates to elite schools should be much lower... WTF is going on

Yeah it wasn't minorities taking the spot of Asians

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Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Uh no. Top colleges will always matter

Maybe to the poor who don’t pay a dime but ROI matters and the ROI just isn’t there anymore for full pay students.

You sound stupid trying to argue that full pay students are passing on ivy league credential based on ROI

Well not just that but people don't want to consider it for several reasons including ROI. Sorry that bursts your bubble that's it's just so elite and everyone is dying to go. Smart rich kids are taking their wealth and connections elsewhere.

This just isn’t true.

Of course it is. If you’re already connected what do you need it for?

Because that's not how connections work.

If you don't need to even go to college then you really want college for the social connections and the social connections at a place like Alabama are all new money of provincial southern society folks.

That’s not true at all. The truly wealthy go to college wherever they want to socialize with each other. Which they can do anywhere. Thinking your poor kids are going to get to know them and land internships through their new connections is laughable.

I never said any of those things and the truly wealthy aren't getting driven out of Yale and Harvard because some middle class kids around them are studying hard. They are still going to Yale and Harvard to socialize. I don't know who you think is going to believe that they have decided to go to Alabama. Alabama is mostly new money UMC.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

The DC Metro has the highest concentration of Black Americans getting 1400 + higher on Sat

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w12078/w12078.pdf

I don't see that in the paper. Do you have a page number?

Here are some Numbers

2025 - Virginia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-virginia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - Maryland https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-maryland-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - DC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-district-of-columbia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - California https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-california-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - Texas https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-texas-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2025 - Florida https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-florida-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - Georgia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-georgia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-north-carolina-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NY https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-new-york-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - MAss https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-massachusetts-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

If you look at the numbers the White admission rates to elite schools should be much lower... WTF is going on

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Because some asian people really hate being asian and reject everything about it except when they are around their white friends. When they are with their white friends, they really play it up.

So whites can look down on them for being uppity?

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Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Uh no. Top colleges will always matter

Maybe to the poor who don’t pay a dime but ROI matters and the ROI just isn’t there anymore for full pay students.

You sound stupid trying to argue that full pay students are passing on ivy league credential based on ROI

Well not just that but people don't want to consider it for several reasons including ROI. Sorry that bursts your bubble that's it's just so elite and everyone is dying to go. Smart rich kids are taking their wealth and connections elsewhere.

This just isn’t true.

Of course it is. If you’re already connected what do you need it for?

Because that's not how connections work.

If you don't need to even go to college then you really want college for the social connections and the social connections at a place like Alabama are all new money of provincial southern society folks.

That’s not true at all. The truly wealthy go to college wherever they want to socialize with each other. Which they can do anywhere. Thinking your poor kids are going to get to know them and land internships through their new connections is laughable.