Doesn't pan out in the real world. The youngest of an age group is much more likely to quit than the oldest. Do your research. Case by case to play up based mainly on talent and skill.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Theres only 2 ways what you wrote can be true.
1st is if you kid was biobanded has a Junior or Senior in HS which isnt very likely.
2nd is if your kid is a young august birthday for their age and when BY switches to SY chooses to play on a grade down team. This is also very unlikely for a Junior or Senior in HS
99% chance that you are a liar and making things up.
It's #2 in a state with a 9/1 cutoff if you care. So three more years of playing with the players in the grade below him.
You need to speak with your DOC and explain that your kid and you want to be playing on the correct grade team. If they ignore you or your request take your business elsewhere.
Theres an entire thread about the issue with young Aug birthdays playing down a grade. The net is if you do this as an older your kid will have no chance at being recruited to play in college. Also as you've highlighted your kid would rather play with kids in their grade not a grade down.
You're in a unique/ weird situation which is easily addressed in SY by playing up.
BTW these are some of the many reasons there should be a league rule or recommendation that younger than the SY eligibility window of 8/1-7/31 but a grade up in school play on a team thats their grade.
I sounds like some clubs haven't figured out that forcing grade up players to play at a grade below them level isn't an asset or way to win. It frustrates and embarrasses players who will ultimately quit if not grouped with players their grade.
Playing MLSN2 as a boy. No real chance for college ball.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Theres only 2 ways what you wrote can be true.
1st is if you kid was biobanded has a Junior or Senior in HS which isnt very likely.
2nd is if your kid is a young august birthday for their age and when BY switches to SY chooses to play on a grade down team. This is also very unlikely for a Junior or Senior in HS
99% chance that you are a liar and making things up.
It's #2 in a state with a 9/1 cutoff if you care. So three more years of playing with the players in the grade below him.
You need to speak with your DOC and explain that your kid and you want to be playing on the correct grade team. If they ignore you or your request take your business elsewhere.
Theres an entire thread about the issue with young Aug birthdays playing down a grade. The net is if you do this as an older your kid will have no chance at being recruited to play in college. Also as you've highlighted your kid would rather play with kids in their grade not a grade down.
You're in a unique/ weird situation which is easily addressed in SY by playing up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Theres only 2 ways what you wrote can be true.
1st is if you kid was biobanded has a Junior or Senior in HS which isnt very likely.
2nd is if your kid is a young august birthday for their age and when BY switches to SY chooses to play on a grade down team. This is also very unlikely for a Junior or Senior in HS
99% chance that you are a liar and making things up.
It's #2 in a state with a 9/1 cutoff if you care. So three more years of playing with the players in the grade below him.
You need to speak with your DOC and explain that your kid and you want to be playing on the correct grade team. If they ignore you or your request take your business elsewhere.
Theres an entire thread about the issue with young Aug birthdays playing down a grade. The net is if you do this as an older your kid will have no chance at being recruited to play in college. Also as you've highlighted your kid would rather play with kids in their grade not a grade down.
You're in a unique/ weird situation which is easily addressed in SY by playing up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Theres only 2 ways what you wrote can be true.
1st is if you kid was biobanded has a Junior or Senior in HS which isnt very likely.
2nd is if your kid is a young august birthday for their age and when BY switches to SY chooses to play on a grade down team. This is also very unlikely for a Junior or Senior in HS
99% chance that you are a liar and making things up.
It's #2 in a state with a 9/1 cutoff if you care. So three more years of playing with the players in the grade below him.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
Try out in the older age group and make the team.
A small rural state making agglomeration of talent difficult. Rule changes can't help this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Theres only 2 ways what you wrote can be true.
1st is if you kid was biobanded has a Junior or Senior in HS which isnt very likely.
2nd is if your kid is a young august birthday for their age and when BY switches to SY chooses to play on a grade down team. This is also very unlikely for a Junior or Senior in HS
99% chance that you are a liar and making things up.
It's #2 in a state with a 9/1 cutoff if you care. So three more years of playing with the players in the grade below him.
Anonymous wrote:When their is a change, there will be winners and losers. Don't feel entitled to be on the winning side for every change in life and you will be happier and a nicer person.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Theres only 2 ways what you wrote can be true.
1st is if you kid was biobanded has a Junior or Senior in HS which isnt very likely.
2nd is if your kid is a young august birthday for their age and when BY switches to SY chooses to play on a grade down team. This is also very unlikely for a Junior or Senior in HS
99% chance that you are a liar and making things up.
When their is a change, there will be winners and losers. Don't feel entitled to be on the winning side for every change in life and you will be happier and a nicer person.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Anonymous wrote:In what world do ECNL bench warmers make MLS 1 teams in the age group they are already bench warmers in? Make that make sense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
Yes dominating in MLSN2 will get you nowhere. Plus MLSN1 will be stacked more than ever with Jan through July kids when the bench warmers come over from ECNL. MLSN2 kids wanting more exposure, better competition and coaching should consider ECNL.
Agree, that’s what many families are planning to do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
There is no MLS1 option at our current club. Closests ECNL team is 2.5 hours away. My DS already doesn't play with his school friends because most of the HS team are rec players or EDP level. Now he won't be playing with his longtime club friends either and will be finishing out his club career with kids an entire grade below him from completely different school districts. I would love for all the experts in here to explain what supposed benefits this change is supposed to have, because I don't see it.
Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So my August birthday U15, 9th grade son will spend next season as a 10th grader playing with a team of 9th graders and, essentially repeating his U15 season? How does that make sense.
If fact, on an MLS2 team of 18 players my son in the only one with an August or later birthday.
And before anyone asks, the enrollment cutoff in our state is 9/1.
There are 50 states and at least 54 soccer associations under USYS plus the District. Someone will always get shafted. If we begin to understand that the USA does not evolve around our little house, city, county or even our state, we will all be better for it.
My kid is a Q4 and left behind this summer as he was not eligible for middle school camps with his teammates. It was the first time we ever noticed we were behind the rest of the team in grade levels as they are not in the same school. Big whoop.
You folks are making this waaaaay harder than it has to be. Everybody will be in one-year brackets just like it has always been. While the reference is SY, don't confuse the fact that it is a 365-day age bracket just like it has always been. There was always trapped players and there will always be trapped players as long as we have state and county autonomy over school districts. If you are dominating MLS NEXT II, do you really think your club or another club in MLS NEXT I won't notice? If a club is dominating MLS NEXT II and sending players to academies, do you really think they won't have the opportunity to be promoted to MLS NEXT I?
This change is as overrated at the Y2K bug that did not blow up my clock at 12:00am on 1/1/2000.
Yes dominating in MLSN2 will get you nowhere. Plus MLSN1 will be stacked more than ever with Jan through July kids when the bench warmers come over from ECNL. MLSN2 kids wanting more exposure, better competition and coaching should consider ECNL.
Agree, that’s what many families are planning to do.