Isn’t Batman a rich white guy?

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Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Yes, and having “safe spaces” for POC, in my view, is not a bad thing. For many of these students, going to college might be their first time attending school that is majority White (and / or Asian). Self-segrating, gives these students a path into integrating into the bigger society. I am a POC, but I grew up in mostly white middle class town. Most of my friends in college were white, because we shared common experiences growing up.

Self segregating helps one integrate? How exactly? That's the exact opposite of integration.

holy clueless privilege batman

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Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Yes, and having “safe spaces” for POC, in my view, is not a bad thing. For many of these students, going to college might be their first time attending school that is majority White (and / or Asian). Self-segrating, gives these students a path into integrating into the bigger society. I am a POC, but I grew up in mostly white middle class town. Most of my friends in college were white, because we shared common experiences growing up.

Have you considered/toured any HBCU s ?

Major consideration for my black child. She has mostly applied to HBCUs but as they don’t offer a ton of aid had to apply to PWI too. I hope the HBCUs come through.

If you are and URM, I think it makes sense to want to hang out with students with similar backgrounds at a PWI. I do agree, however that the socioeconomic background probably “sorts” kids out more so than race nowadays. A wealthy Black or Latino student probably has more in common with other wealthy white students, as opossed to lower income URMs.

Expats who are abroad for work aren’t truly integrated. They’re there for work only, their home base is still their home country and their kids go to international schools. It’s not the same as immigration. That being said, the thing about “parallel experiences” on many college campuses is unfortunately true. At LAC’s, even at those that have a reputation for being dominated by athletes, all students usually spend all four years on campus in small classes, so they end up having to interact at least superficially. Many of my kid’s friends are at a state flagship and the “parallel experience” starts early on, with rush. My nonwhite kid is at a mid-sized private. I’ve been encouraging them to be open to different people on campus and not be so locked in with a particular group early on…will see…

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Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Yes, and having “safe spaces” for POC, in my view, is not a bad thing. For many of these students, going to college might be their first time attending school that is majority White (and / or Asian). Self-segrating, gives these students a path into integrating into the bigger society. I am a POC, but I grew up in mostly white middle class town. Most of my friends in college were white, because we shared common experiences growing up.

Self segregating helps one integrate? How exactly? That's the exact opposite of integration.

I think what pp means is that sometimes BIOPIC have to create their own sub environment of others like them to adapt to that broader college environment. Sort of like finding people that already are like you and have a lot in common with you. That’s why some girls may have an all girls table, or blacks may sit at an all black table. It’s the familiarity from time to time that is sought. Nothing wrong with it. But from the outside, it might look like non integration.

This. Very much how English speaking “ex-pats”, aka immigrants, tend to band together when working abroad.

It’s still not integration. It’s more like parallel play.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Yes, and having “safe spaces” for POC, in my view, is not a bad thing. For many of these students, going to college might be their first time attending school that is majority White (and / or Asian). Self-segrating, gives these students a path into integrating into the bigger society. I am a POC, but I grew up in mostly white middle class town. Most of my friends in college were white, because we shared common experiences growing up.

Self segregating helps one integrate? How exactly? That's the exact opposite of integration.

I think what pp means is that sometimes BIOPIC have to create their own sub environment of others like them to adapt to that broader college environment. Sort of like finding people that already are like you and have a lot in common with you. That’s why some girls may have an all girls table, or blacks may sit at an all black table. It’s the familiarity from time to time that is sought. Nothing wrong with it. But from the outside, it might look like non integration.

This. Very much how English speaking “ex-pats”, aka immigrants, tend to band together when working abroad.

One of the best things I heard when I went to a Williams admitted students previews weekend decades ago is something like no matter what color we are, it’s embarrassing for all to be a purple cow.

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Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Yes, and having “safe spaces” for POC, in my view, is not a bad thing. For many of these students, going to college might be their first time attending school that is majority White (and / or Asian). Self-segrating, gives these students a path into integrating into the bigger society. I am a POC, but I grew up in mostly white middle class town. Most of my friends in college were white, because we shared common experiences growing up.

Self segregating helps one integrate? How exactly? That's the exact opposite of integration.

I think what pp means is that sometimes BIOPIC have to create their own sub environment of others like them to adapt to that broader college environment. Sort of like finding people that already are like you and have a lot in common with you. That’s why some girls may have an all girls table, or blacks may sit at an all black table. It’s the familiarity from time to time that is sought. Nothing wrong with it. But from the outside, it might look like non integration.

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Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Yes, and having “safe spaces” for POC, in my view, is not a bad thing. For many of these students, going to college might be their first time attending school that is majority White (and / or Asian). Self-segrating, gives these students a path into integrating into the bigger society. I am a POC, but I grew up in mostly white middle class town. Most of my friends in college were white, because we shared common experiences growing up.

Self segregating helps one integrate? How exactly? That's the exact opposite of integration.

Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Very true.

And don’t discount environments.

Anonymous wrote:A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

Yes, and having “safe spaces” for POC, in my view, is not a bad thing. For many of these students, going to college might be their first time attending school that is majority White (and / or Asian). Self-segrating, gives these students a path into integrating into the bigger society. I am a POC, but I grew up in mostly white middle class town. Most of my friends in college were white, because we shared common experiences growing up.

A college can look diverse on paper but the actual social life on campus can be very segregated by race, class, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most students are looking for economic diversity, rather than pure racial diversity. The rich GDS and Sidwell black students aren't bringing anything special to campus. Students value a diversity of experience rather than color, which is increasingly meaningless among 18 year olds in 2025.

I think as we have more multiracial kids, it will become less and less acceptable to categorize people on the basis of race.

They are all multi “racial”… you just don’t grasp it ..