Anonymous
07/18/2025 15:54
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).
I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.
Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.
Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.
Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.
Can you give us an update? Did you ask and did they pay?
They did pay and I don’t have any reasoning to think that their reason for not paying was anything like the reasoning or the poster who thinks I should maybe let them sleep in my room. I think it is more likely that forgot, or mom and dad each thought the other paid or
something like that.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 12:35
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).
I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.
Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.
Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.
Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.
Can you give us an update? Did you ask and did they pay?
Anonymous
07/18/2025 12:21
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t read the last five pages to catch up on what’s happening. Did OP ask the parents for the money or not?
Since your post, there have been 7 posts on the last 2 pages with the phrase “choosy beggar.” That is the only real update.
But why did the parent want to put 4 teens in the same room against their wishes so she doesn’t pay the OP back? It’s a little harsh, but choosy beggar is appropriate.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 12:19
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!
Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.
What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!
No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.
It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol
I don’t think there are many parents that will agree with these terms, but if you’re so bizarre about your expectations for the trip you should be upfront about it. They probably didn’t say anything because they wanted to mooch off the other parents.
My kid would not be ok with sharing a bed with another teen, and I wouldn’t be either.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 12:09
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
If I’m the parent that paid for his kids room, I’m ok with my son bringing another friend to sleep in the other bed, but I’d be furious if two more kids stay in the room uninvited, inflatable mattress or not. I paid for the room, my son can do whatever he wants there, it’s not a common sleeping area. If he doesn’t know the other kids well or doesn’t want to invite any of them, then respect his choice. The poster suggesting to put two more kids in the room, trying to get a free ride at the expense of OP.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 10:45
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
A lot of people (or one person over and over, who knows) are saying that getting two rooms instead of one is some kind of egregious error that justifies not paying. That someone who would do something so ridiculous doesn't deserve to be paid. (I think that's the logic, correct me if I'm wrong).
I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.
Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.
Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.
Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.
I thought I'd come in an explain my thinking.
Families who sign their kids up for these camps, have already invested a lot of money. There are years of club fees, and the cost of travel. Many have done skill development camps, and had private coaching. These families had also paid the registration fee for this camp which was hundreds of dollars. And part of the motivation to do that is college admissions.
Once you've invested that much, an extra $100 to increase the likelihood that your kid is well rested, and thereby increase the likelihood that they'll do well at the camp that you have paid thousands of dollars to get him to, made sense to me. And if it made sense to me, on my budget, then my guess was that it would make sense to other parents with more generous budgets, who had spent more than I had, especially given that they'd presumably originally budgeted for a whole room, plus gas and tolls. So, when I sent my original text, that's what I proposed.
Now, could one or all have suggested something different? Sure. But they didn't. And maybe they overlooked that I was booking two rooms, or they felt it was awkward to say anything.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 08:54
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!
Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.
These are prospect camps for kids looking to get recruited by a college. If you want to go and play at that college, you do not "pick a closer camp."
Anonymous
07/18/2025 08:50
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:I can’t read the last five pages to catch up on what’s happening. Did OP ask the parents for the money or not?
Since your post, there have been 7 posts on the last 2 pages with the phrase “choosy beggar.” That is the only real update.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 08:09
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!
Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.
Most people pick ID camps based on the school(s) represented there. If your kid wants to go to Notre Dame, he isn’t going to choose the American camp because it’s closer. An ID camp is like an interview or audition in that way.
Having said that, these parents and kids could have picked any camp they wanted. It isn’t reasonable to pick a camp, sign up, ask for a ride and then blame the person who offered because the camp you chose was far away.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 01:36
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!
Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.
What a sneaky choosy beggar! Don’t you think for a second we don’t see right through your little games. You don’t just send your kid to the camp and in the end you’re like “I’m not paying, that’s too much, I wasn’t expecting that!” Trying to come up with whatever pretense to evade paying!
No, before you send your kid, you contact your parent and say, “This is my budget, I’ll pay only for a quarter of a hotel room because at least three other kids must share the room with mine, two in each bed. If they don’t want to share a bed, I packed an inflatable mattress for my kid. I won’t help with the gas and tolls, cause you’d pay for it anyways. If other family pays more than their exact share, let me know and I’ll deduct it from what I owe you.” I bet most other parents will be very receptive to this approach because it’s very transparent about your expectations.
It’s really easy to set up the terms beforehand, but you won’t do it because you want a free ride, you choosy beggar. lol
Anonymous
07/18/2025 00:52
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!
And, no, I’m not talking ice cream, I’m talking sit down restaurants for a meal and drink.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 00:51
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!
Op was not paying for everything. Another family fully paid one hotel room. The three boys or four could have shared that room or her son be in her room. She said the boys all had money for food. Op already had to pay for gas and tolls. She choose to not share a room, and put two kids to a room. Very strange when she says she’s not rich and got financial aid for her kid. Most of us would have pick a closer camp or one with housing.
Anonymous
07/18/2025 00:38
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
There’s one thing to take a couple of kids for a $5 ice cream and a whole another thing to expect everything paid for an overnight sports camp. Not the same thing at all choosy beggar!
Anonymous
07/17/2025 22:54
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
Let me entertain you, Karen. Would you like some choosing with that begging? lol.
Please tell us more about the time you took other kids and paid all expenses.
Did they share an ice cream with you? No? What inconsiderate brats!
I take kids out all the time especially after sports and school stuff. I pay for it all. It’s odd to me to have a kid with you and not pay.
Anonymous
07/17/2025 22:53
Subject: Can I ask for payment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else want to know if it’s the same poster using the phrase choosy beggar? They can’t stop. I keep checking back just to see if it’s posted again now.
I am curious too. I just know it's not me, although I do think it's an apt description of the person who would be horrified if someone didn't let their teenage son sleep on the floor of the mom's room.
-- OP
Sleeping on the floor is the default when going to an athletic overnight camp. Or kids share a bed, in which case the mom will sleep in between the teens to make sure there’s no hanky panky going on. Choosy beggars also have their mind in the gutter, oh my!
When kids go on band and other school trips it’s four to a room, two to a bed. I sent mine with an air mattress if they did not want to share. Our overnight sports camos have housing.
I’d rather mine be in a room with an adult.