It gets worse and worse...

Heat, storms, mosquitos the big threats at Alligator Alcatraz, experts say
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/07/05/alligator-alcatraz-immigrants-detention-florida/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F4378254%2F686949dad2a65e78271294d8%2F596bd588ae7e8a44e7deee5c%2F16%2F58%2F686949dad2a65e78271294d8

Mosquitoes and hurricanes are more likely to harm the expected 3,000-plus detainees and 100-member staff than are alligators and Burmese pythons. “The risk of mosquito-borne disease at this site is significant,” said Durland Fish, a professor emeritus of epidemiology at the Yale University School of Public Health. And the viruses detected during a mosquitos study he conducted in the Everglades — including at Big Cypress Swamp, where the detention center is located — can cause neurological damage, including encephalitis, or inflammation of the brain. “There’s no treatment for these,” Fish said.

According to the state’s emergency management director, Kevin Guthrie, the 158,000 square feet of housing is “a fully aluminum frame structure rated for winds of 110 miles an hour,” the top-end equivalent of a Category 2 hurricane. However, some building experts note that the site is in a High-Velocity Hurricane Zone, where local code requires that a building’s entire envelope — including windows, doors and eaves — incorporates lab-tested, wind-resistant design. “The 110 mile an hour wind design hasn’t existed in Florida since Hurricane Andrew in 1992,” said Anthony Abbate, a professor and director of the MetroLAB in the School of Architecture at Florida Atlantic University. “Nowhere in the state of Florida is 110 acceptable, according to the Florida building code.” [In other words, the facility may not be safe or compliant with state regulations since a 110 mph wind resistance standard is outdated.]

Federal law says illegal immigrants, anyone applying for asylum are to be detained.

Anonymous wrote:From a post by jayjaylegal on Threads:

“The Trump-backed “Alligator Alcatraz” migrant jail is facing shutdown. Why? It broke local, state & federal law by skipping the required environmental impact review. Tribes + environmental groups sued, & a judge may issue an injunction this week. Meanwhile, Trump denies involvement in court—but brags about funding it in public.”

Well, if jayjaylegal says it, it must be true!!!

Hispanics love Trump. Let more in

From a post by jayjaylegal on Threads:

“The Trump-backed “Alligator Alcatraz” migrant jail is facing shutdown. Why? It broke local, state & federal law by skipping the required environmental impact review. Tribes + environmental groups sued, & a judge may issue an injunction this week. Meanwhile, Trump denies involvement in court—but brags about funding it in public.”

Wow

Anonymous wrote:Apparently some feel that people from other countries can take advantage of immigration law and get to stay here by having their home country refuse to take them back.

Speaking of "taking advantage of immigration law"... Elon Musk entered the US on a student visa and never studied--instead he started a business and worked for years without permission to do so. Melania Trump first entered on a tourist visa and worked as a model without work permission. Apparently if you're rich, they let you. Oh, and one of Ted Cruz's grandfathers entered the US illegally from Cuba. And Ivana Trump was under observation by the FBI.

Apparently some feel that people from other countries can take advantage of immigration law and get to stay here by having their home country refuse to take them back.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact remains that they are being forcibly removed.

Yeah, and? Just because a person makes it across our border, doesn’t mean they automatically get to stay.

So let’s spend hundreds of billions of dollars - more than Israel’s entire defense budget - to lock them in cages in a humid, malaria-infested, hurricane-prone swamp and make it into a big joke and sell T shirts on Amazon?

This is a manufactured crisis.

Yep. People could just be put on flights and deported to their home country.

As long as established law if followed.

Sure. Either way, it's better than the Trump admin sending them to El Salvador or down to the alligator concentration camp.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact remains that they are being forcibly removed.

Yeah, and? Just because a person makes it across our border, doesn’t mean they automatically get to stay.

So let’s spend hundreds of billions of dollars - more than Israel’s entire defense budget - to lock them in cages in a humid, malaria-infested, hurricane-prone swamp and make it into a big joke and sell T shirts on Amazon?

This is a manufactured crisis.

No, this is the correction to actual crisis that Biden/Harris created.

No, it’s a crisis created to distract from the real problems in this country. We have aging infrastructure, growing income inequality, drug addiction in rural communities, unaffordable health care, not enough housing stock, increasingly deadly storms. No money to address any of that, but endless money for war and military equipment and prisons. Once your dream comes true and all the bad brown people are gone, do you actually think they’re going dismantle the camps? Or are they going to follow the standard M.O. of autocratic regimes and keep going? Historians will tell you it’s the latter. Once you’ve dehumanized and rounded up one group, it gets easier and easier to do it to others.

I thought Biden's infrastructure bill was supposed to correct most of that.
Just a few points...... drugs coming across the border is at an all time low. Thanks, Trump!
Airport infrastructure, which Mayor Pete did nothing about - is addressed and funded in the Big Beautiful Bill. Thank you, Trump!
Unaffordable health care? I thought Obamacare was going to correct that... the "Affordable Care Act." He lied too.

And, "brown people gone?" You are ridiculous. It is hard to take anything you say seriously.

And yet you just did

Given all the fallacies and hyperbole in pp's post, it was imperative to correct the record.
Lies and hyperbole seems to be the only "weapons" that the Democrats have right now.
Oh, and there's the singing too. Very effective. /s

Except you didn’t correct anything, and there were no lies, other than you lying that they were lies (MAGA projection “logic” at its finest). Also, you misused the word “fallacies”.

But, thank you for pointing out that the ACA and infrastructure bill were introduced by Democrats. At least Democrats are trying to address some of these problems.

As for drugs coming across the border, Trump pulled one third of the National Guard counterdrug forces to aid in his illegal LA militarization scheme, and now there are MORE drugs coming across the California border. Thanks, Trump!

Interesting that the "Affordable Care Act" actually INCREASED the cost of health insurance.
Also interesting that the infrastructure bill has done virtually nothing for our infrastructure.
And, add to that the "Inflation Reduction Act" which actually INCREASED inflation.

Democrats are good at one thing.... naming bills that do the exact opposite of the name.

If you look at the cost trend for employer paid health insurance premiums 2000--present it is almost a straight line, so that is false.

One thing that did happen was plenty of people without employer coverage had "policies" that were barely health insurance at all. When I was applying for work through a temp agency in 2009 I was offered a "policy" that seemed really cheap, but it covered up to 3 days inpatient care and had a cape on ER care of around $5000. And if you had pre-existing conditions, you could not get private individual health insurance, you would have to go through the insurance pool in your state, pay higher premium, and (depending on the state) be excluded from your existing conditions for 6 months to a year, have a much smaller cap on coverage (before ACA most policies did have a lifetime cap). Yes, it was a shock when they could no longer buy those "policies." But I had worked in insurance before and had met many people who faced a grim surprise when they were diagnosed with cancer and discovered what their "insurance" actually paid for.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact remains that they are being forcibly removed.

Yeah, and? Just because a person makes it across our border, doesn’t mean they automatically get to stay.

So let’s spend hundreds of billions of dollars - more than Israel’s entire defense budget - to lock them in cages in a humid, malaria-infested, hurricane-prone swamp and make it into a big joke and sell T shirts on Amazon?

This is a manufactured crisis.

No, this is the correction to actual crisis that Biden/Harris created.

No, it’s a crisis created to distract from the real problems in this country. We have aging infrastructure, growing income inequality, drug addiction in rural communities, unaffordable health care, not enough housing stock, increasingly deadly storms. No money to address any of that, but endless money for war and military equipment and prisons. Once your dream comes true and all the bad brown people are gone, do you actually think they’re going dismantle the camps? Or are they going to follow the standard M.O. of autocratic regimes and keep going? Historians will tell you it’s the latter. Once you’ve dehumanized and rounded up one group, it gets easier and easier to do it to others.

I thought Biden's infrastructure bill was supposed to correct most of that.
Just a few points...... drugs coming across the border is at an all time low. Thanks, Trump!
Airport infrastructure, which Mayor Pete did nothing about - is addressed and funded in the Big Beautiful Bill. Thank you, Trump!
Unaffordable health care? I thought Obamacare was going to correct that... the "Affordable Care Act." He lied too.

And, "brown people gone?" You are ridiculous. It is hard to take anything you say seriously.

And yet you just did

Given all the fallacies and hyperbole in pp's post, it was imperative to correct the record.
Lies and hyperbole seems to be the only "weapons" that the Democrats have right now.
Oh, and there's the singing too. Very effective. /s

Except you didn’t correct anything, and there were no lies, other than you lying that they were lies (MAGA projection “logic” at its finest). Also, you misused the word “fallacies”.

But, thank you for pointing out that the ACA and infrastructure bill were introduced by Democrats. At least Democrats are trying to address some of these problems.

As for drugs coming across the border, Trump pulled one third of the National Guard counterdrug forces to aid in his illegal LA militarization scheme, and now there are MORE drugs coming across the California border. Thanks, Trump!

Interesting that the "Affordable Care Act" actually INCREASED the cost of health insurance.
Also interesting that the infrastructure bill has done virtually nothing for our infrastructure.
And, add to that the "Inflation Reduction Act" which actually INCREASED inflation.

Democrats are good at one thing.... naming bills that do the exact opposite of the name.

Interesting that health care costs were already rising before the ACA…and then the rate slowed after the ACA. Interesting that under Biden, Medicare was able to negotiate lower drug prices, and insulin was capped at $35.

Also interesting that since it was passed, the bipartisan project has funded over 66,000 projects across the U.S., improving roads, bridges, and public transportation, while also investing in clean water, broadband access, and climate resilience. It has allocated approximately $568 billion, creating nearly 940,000 construction jobs and enhancing infrastructure nationwide. That’s not doing “virtually nothing”.

As for inflation, the rate under Biden was determined by factors entirely outside his control: spiking oil and gas prices, rising interest rates, and pandemic supply chain issues. Sorry, can’t pin that on the Democrats, much as you’d love to.

DJT, Swamp King lol

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/arts/downtown-phoenix-gets-new-swamp-king-trump-billboard-on-grand-avenue-22056888

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact remains that they are being forcibly removed.

Yeah, and? Just because a person makes it across our border, doesn’t mean they automatically get to stay.

So let’s spend hundreds of billions of dollars - more than Israel’s entire defense budget - to lock them in cages in a humid, malaria-infested, hurricane-prone swamp and make it into a big joke and sell T shirts on Amazon?

This is a manufactured crisis.

Yep. People could just be put on flights and deported to their home country.

As long as established law if followed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact remains that they are being forcibly removed.

Yeah, and? Just because a person makes it across our border, doesn’t mean they automatically get to stay.

So let’s spend hundreds of billions of dollars - more than Israel’s entire defense budget - to lock them in cages in a humid, malaria-infested, hurricane-prone swamp and make it into a big joke and sell T shirts on Amazon?

This is a manufactured crisis.

Yep. People could just be put on flights and deported to their home country.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact remains that they are being forcibly removed.

Yeah, and? Just because a person makes it across our border, doesn’t mean they automatically get to stay.

So let’s spend hundreds of billions of dollars - more than Israel’s entire defense budget - to lock them in cages in a humid, malaria-infested, hurricane-prone swamp and make it into a big joke and sell T shirts on Amazon?

This is a manufactured crisis.

No, this is the correction to actual crisis that Biden/Harris created.

No, it’s a crisis created to distract from the real problems in this country. We have aging infrastructure, growing income inequality, drug addiction in rural communities, unaffordable health care, not enough housing stock, increasingly deadly storms. No money to address any of that, but endless money for war and military equipment and prisons. Once your dream comes true and all the bad brown people are gone, do you actually think they’re going dismantle the camps? Or are they going to follow the standard M.O. of autocratic regimes and keep going? Historians will tell you it’s the latter. Once you’ve dehumanized and rounded up one group, it gets easier and easier to do it to others.

I thought Biden's infrastructure bill was supposed to correct most of that.
Just a few points...... drugs coming across the border is at an all time low. Thanks, Trump!
Airport infrastructure, which Mayor Pete did nothing about - is addressed and funded in the Big Beautiful Bill. Thank you, Trump!
Unaffordable health care? I thought Obamacare was going to correct that... the "Affordable Care Act." He lied too.

And, "brown people gone?" You are ridiculous. It is hard to take anything you say seriously.

And yet you just did

Given all the fallacies and hyperbole in pp's post, it was imperative to correct the record.
Lies and hyperbole seems to be the only "weapons" that the Democrats have right now.
Oh, and there's the singing too. Very effective. /s

Except you didn’t correct anything, and there were no lies, other than you lying that they were lies (MAGA projection “logic” at its finest). Also, you misused the word “fallacies”.

But, thank you for pointing out that the ACA and infrastructure bill were introduced by Democrats. At least Democrats are trying to address some of these problems.

As for drugs coming across the border, Trump pulled one third of the National Guard counterdrug forces to aid in his illegal LA militarization scheme, and now there are MORE drugs coming across the California border. Thanks, Trump!

Interesting that the "Affordable Care Act" actually INCREASED the cost of health insurance.
Also interesting that the infrastructure bill has done virtually nothing for our infrastructure.
And, add to that the "Inflation Reduction Act" which actually INCREASED inflation.

Democrats are good at one thing.... naming bills that do the exact opposite of the name.