Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:06     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Either they weren’t wearing their seat belts or he was going really really fast. Bmws are very well made and they should have survived if they were wearing belts unless he was just flying.


Driver smashed into a concrete wall.


at 100 mph. I don't care how many safety features you have, or how sturdy your car is-- Do you know what happens to your brain when it slams against your skull at even 70-80mph crashes?

100mph, let's just say it might be better to have died on impact.


Not only the forces working on the brain in a high speed collision, but it is also very possible that a person can suffer atlanto-occipital dislocation - in laymen's terms internal decapitation - which can quickly lead to death because the brain stem is often damaged and that is what controls breathing and heart function.

Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 07:59     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Nobody can predict when it will be our last day on earth.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 13:18     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:Again and again.

HS students die in car crashes during this time of the year.

In summer - kids drown in pools and infants and dogs roast in closed cars.

Why are we letting this happen?


It is tragic, and my nightmare. My son went to prom with friends last night and did pics at the Lincoln Memorial and had dinner in DC, then drove back up to Gaithersburg. He got in around 3am. And of course I worried. And of course we've had conversations about sober driving, designated driver, and more.

But it is still a very rare thing to happen. Low incidence/high consequence. We won't be able to prevent them all.

And it's not nasty to mention the type of car. My son's friends all wanted to rent high performance vehicles for prom, to show off. That's one place parents can easily say no. Definitely something to be aware of.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 23:30     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Either they weren’t wearing their seat belts or he was going really really fast. Bmws are very well made and they should have survived if they were wearing belts unless he was just flying.


Driver smashed into a concrete wall.


We need to ban walls.


Ban concrete walls. Do it for the children.

Especially the really stupid ones who drive too fast in sport sedans their parents gave them.

We must save these kids. They’re our best and brightest.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 15:47     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

People, put a Vyncs in your kid’s car and let them know you can see their speed. Take their keys of they’re being reckless. Driving is a privilege. You are the adult.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 14:01     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am amazed people feel so comfortable passing judgement on an accident they don't have all the data about, and also gleefully judge people who have lost their children and have a child in serious condition. What is the goal? Feeling like a better parent? If anything we can discuss that boys AND men, grown men included, are much more at risk when it comes to road safety: 3/4th of fatal crashes are caused by men. That extends to bike safety, motorcycle safety and pedestrian safety as well. I doubt this is caused by parenting in every instance. There are other factors at play. There is zero value in passing judgement on this specific tragic situation.


I disagree. Show your sons this story and tell them yet another “good kid” killed two friends with “one time” reckless behavior. It only takes once. Hit it home, over and over and over again.


I still remember the middle school shop videos that were were shown in order to encourage our paying attention when using the power tools... nail through the eye, hand impaled by drill press. To this day I exercise caution. I'm almost certain we did the same with drivers ed, video's of traffic fatalities, back in HS in the 80s. I'm all for showing grim pictures of the aftermath and consequences to my kids when they get ready to drive.

It worked for me, but then again I was a teen girl, and not a boy so maybe I just had a natural instinct to drive cautiously and think things through even as a teen.


Virginia still requires kids and a parent watch the scary video before allowing them to get a license. Had to do it with my teen.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 11:28     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Either they weren’t wearing their seat belts or he was going really really fast. Bmws are very well made and they should have survived if they were wearing belts unless he was just flying.


Driver smashed into a concrete wall.


at 100 mph. I don't care how many safety features you have, or how sturdy your car is-- Do you know what happens to your brain when it slams against your skull at even 70-80mph crashes?

100mph, let's just say it might be better to have died on impact.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 11:14     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am amazed people feel so comfortable passing judgement on an accident they don't have all the data about, and also gleefully judge people who have lost their children and have a child in serious condition. What is the goal? Feeling like a better parent? If anything we can discuss that boys AND men, grown men included, are much more at risk when it comes to road safety: 3/4th of fatal crashes are caused by men. That extends to bike safety, motorcycle safety and pedestrian safety as well. I doubt this is caused by parenting in every instance. There are other factors at play. There is zero value in passing judgement on this specific tragic situation.


I disagree. Show your sons this story and tell them yet another “good kid” killed two friends with “one time” reckless behavior. It only takes once. Hit it home, over and over and over again.


I still remember the middle school shop videos that were were shown in order to encourage our paying attention when using the power tools... nail through the eye, hand impaled by drill press. To this day I exercise caution. I'm almost certain we did the same with drivers ed, video's of traffic fatalities, back in HS in the 80s. I'm all for showing grim pictures of the aftermath and consequences to my kids when they get ready to drive.

It worked for me, but then again I was a teen girl, and not a boy so maybe I just had a natural instinct to drive cautiously and think things through even as a teen.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 11:11     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 11:10     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:I am amazed people feel so comfortable passing judgement on an accident they don't have all the data about, and also gleefully judge people who have lost their children and have a child in serious condition. What is the goal? Feeling like a better parent? If anything we can discuss that boys AND men, grown men included, are much more at risk when it comes to road safety: 3/4th of fatal crashes are caused by men. That extends to bike safety, motorcycle safety and pedestrian safety as well. I doubt this is caused by parenting in every instance. There are other factors at play. There is zero value in passing judgement on this specific tragic situation.


The parents who bought their son the BMW, had access to the same information that you have access to, boys and young men are dimwits who shouldn't have access to such things. As to the dead kids, that sucks, I feel bad for their families 100%. Glad it wasn't my kid. But the parents and the young man who chose to speed and kill his friends have a lot to feel guilty about for the rest of their lives.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 11:10     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Sounds like the driver is also in critical condition?
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 10:30     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Either they weren’t wearing their seat belts or he was going really really fast. Bmws are very well made and they should have survived if they were wearing belts unless he was just flying.


Driver smashed into a concrete wall.


We need to ban walls.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 09:56     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Either they weren’t wearing their seat belts or he was going really really fast. Bmws are very well made and they should have survived if they were wearing belts unless he was just flying.


Driver smashed into a concrete wall.


And reports are that speed was 100 mph. Since BMWs record that data, it won't be difficult to confirm that.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 09:32     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:Either they weren’t wearing their seat belts or he was going really really fast. Bmws are very well made and they should have survived if they were wearing belts unless he was just flying.


Driver smashed into a concrete wall.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2025 09:20     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Either they weren’t wearing their seat belts or he was going really really fast. Bmws are very well made and they should have survived if they were wearing belts unless he was just flying.