Anonymous wrote:Are some of the loudest critics denying that some people truly have medical diagnoses that makes weight loss nearly impossible, even when on a low calorie diet with a regular exercise plan in place?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: no

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The defensiveness in this thread is insane. I have never seen a person lose weight via diet an exercise be so angry and bothered as some of the people here.

Because they don't get accused of doing it the wrong and lazy way. So why would they be defensive when not attacked?

You are doubting the fact that diet and exercise is the better, and more challenging way?

Better? No it’s not better. Are you doubting the fact that people taking these meds are doing diet and excerxise? Because I worked out 6 days a week and made a hell of a lot of changes to my diet.

Yes, I absolutely doubt that all or even a significant majority of the people taking these drugs exercise 6 days a week and eat healthfully.

That’s because you choose to stay ignorant. That’s totally on you.

I eagerly await your support for the claim that all or a significant majority of people on this drug are *actually* exercising 6 days a week and eating healthfully. You know, so I don’t stay ignorant.

I told you what I did. You are the one making a claim that majority of the people do not. So the burden of proof is on you, moron.

So you don’t have any. Thanks that’s what I thought.

You’re an even bigger idiot than I thought.

I know men on the drug as well, and their reaction is so different. Many tell everyone and they don’t have the same shame. I can’t imagine any of them getting upset with anyone calling it the easy or lazy way out. Most I know would say: damn straight.

Instead, here, we have posters who are so sensitive that they just swear at other posters.

Why do you care if it’s anything? You’re thin and happy right? This is none of your business!!!!

This is a discussion board. Why are you here if you don’t want to discuss? Just to stomp out view points you are too sensitive to hear? The topic is in the title of the thread, no surprises here.

As I stated repeatedly, I take these drugs. I know how they work first hand. You are not on these drugs. You have no idea how they impact people. You aren’t here to learn or discuss. You are here to shit on people for sport. Why do you feel the need to do that?

Look at your language. No one is sh*tting on you. That is your own sensitivity speaking. There is only one side swearing at the other.

Your gaslighting is not working on me. I see you for who you truly are. A miserable, bitter person who needs to lash out at people to make herself feel better.

No gaslighting and lashing out. You folks are the ones swearing at posters.

Calling us lazy and telling us we took the easy way out is lashing out in my book. It is totally unprovoked. I am still baffled as to why you need to say something like that. You aren't "discussing" anything as you claimed.

Do you see the topic of this thread? This is not a general thread on the use of GLP1s and poster called someone lazy. It’s a thread about reasons for gossiping and shaming people. It’s not unprovoked, That’s the topic. I’m still baffled why you are here if don’t want to read these comments.

Oh I've read all of the comments. Even the ones Jeff deleted. You clearly haven't though. The ones I'm referring to simply said, "Those who take the drugs are lazy." So are you saying that the gossiping in such a way are right? Are you saying you disagree with them? This is personal to me since I take the drugs. What bearing does this have on your life?

Are you reporting comments here? Did you report even one with insults and swears at the “anti” people. I’m guessing no.

You are free to report yourself. I'm assuming the button works the same way for you as it does for me.

Oh no, I want it to be clear who is doing the swearing and flying off the handle. But please don’t pretend you are into civil discourse when you selectively report.

This. The lack of self reflection on part of the PP who continually hurls ad hominems, is pretty telling.

No need to sockpuppet dear.

Sweetheart, ask Jeff - I'm a different poster. Or just report it, since truth is hard for you. It's the easy way out

Anonymous wrote:Well ... this afternoon was horrific.

I have been on Wegovy about a year, and have lost a little over 50 lbs (SW: 227 CW about 170). My weight gain was due to medication. It is frustrating to add another med to lose the weight caused by the first med, but I want to live, so, here we are.

For those of you who call GLP-1 meds "the easy way" ... I $h!t my pants today. Literally. I had a one hour drive. From FFX to home in the historic Occoquan area. About 20 mins from my destination, the gas and horrible stomach pain started. I was literally crying in my car and yelling "It's ok, it's ok" at myself, trying to hold it. It was the windy roads of Prince William and nowhere to stop. I got all the way home, in tears, stood up out of my car, and it all rushed out of my body. All over my new shorts and down my legs into my shoes.

Utterly humiliating. And it hurt. A lot.

So why am I taking the med if this happens? Well, this exact thing had not happened before. These really bad GI side effects only happen about once a month for me, and every time thus far they have happened at night at home when I was right next to a bathroom. It hadn't happened at work, and hadn't happened anywhere else but home. When it is as infrequent as once a month, you put up with it to deal with the obesity (and obesity related health issues -- no vanity here, I have severe obstructive sleep apnea, high cholesterol, arthritis in my knees, and am on the edge of pre-diabetes).

I have lost the weight twice on WW, counting points, and the weight came back each time. My doctor insisted I try the GLP-1. Do I feel better this much lighter? Of course. Will I stick with it? Probably. But I'm not sure, this was pretty bad and the thought of it happening again is traumatizing.

So ... is this the "easy way?" Hell no. Hell, hell, hell no.

If you haven't been through this, then you have no idea what your are talking about.

Anonymous wrote:I started GLP-1 at 5’7 and 145 lbs. Now down to 124 lbs and getting a lot of comments and questions about what I did. I don’t confess. I just say I resolved to eat healthier this year and doubled my gym attendance, both of which are true. My long time gym did a spotlight on me. I do feel a sense of shame and guilt for not telling people the whole story, especially those who could really benefit from these miraculous drugs. But women are awful, as evidenced here. I’m keeping my secret!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well ... this afternoon was horrific.

I have been on Wegovy about a year, and have lost a little over 50 lbs (SW: 227 CW about 170). My weight gain was due to medication. It is frustrating to add another med to lose the weight caused by the first med, but I want to live, so, here we are.

For those of you who call GLP-1 meds "the easy way" ... I $h!t my pants today. Literally. I had a one hour drive. From FFX to home in the historic Occoquan area. About 20 mins from my destination, the gas and horrible stomach pain started. I was literally crying in my car and yelling "It's ok, it's ok" at myself, trying to hold it. It was the windy roads of Prince William and nowhere to stop. I got all the way home, in tears, stood up out of my car, and it all rushed out of my body. All over my new shorts and down my legs into my shoes.

Utterly humiliating. And it hurt. A lot.

So why am I taking the med if this happens? Well, this exact thing had not happened before. These really bad GI side effects only happen about once a month for me, and every time thus far they have happened at night at home when I was right next to a bathroom. It hadn't happened at work, and hadn't happened anywhere else but home. When it is as infrequent as once a month, you put up with it to deal with the obesity (and obesity related health issues -- no vanity here, I have severe obstructive sleep apnea, high cholesterol, arthritis in my knees, and am on the edge of pre-diabetes).

I have lost the weight twice on WW, counting points, and the weight came back each time. My doctor insisted I try the GLP-1. Do I feel better this much lighter? Of course. Will I stick with it? Probably. But I'm not sure, this was pretty bad and the thought of it happening again is traumatizing.

So ... is this the "easy way?" Hell no. Hell, hell, hell no.

If you haven't been through this, then you have no idea what your are talking about.

This only happens once, and then you learn not to eat crap and be really careful when you’re traveling. It’s much healthier to never ever eat junk food and to not overeat. These drugs ensure you do that. Eat a few carrots for breakfast and a small salad for dinner and you’ll never crap your pants again.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well ... this afternoon was horrific.

I have been on Wegovy about a year, and have lost a little over 50 lbs (SW: 227 CW about 170). My weight gain was due to medication. It is frustrating to add another med to lose the weight caused by the first med, but I want to live, so, here we are.

For those of you who call GLP-1 meds "the easy way" ... I $h!t my pants today. Literally. I had a one hour drive. From FFX to home in the historic Occoquan area. About 20 mins from my destination, the gas and horrible stomach pain started. I was literally crying in my car and yelling "It's ok, it's ok" at myself, trying to hold it. It was the windy roads of Prince William and nowhere to stop. I got all the way home, in tears, stood up out of my car, and it all rushed out of my body. All over my new shorts and down my legs into my shoes.

Utterly humiliating. And it hurt. A lot.

So why am I taking the med if this happens? Well, this exact thing had not happened before. These really bad GI side effects only happen about once a month for me, and every time thus far they have happened at night at home when I was right next to a bathroom. It hadn't happened at work, and hadn't happened anywhere else but home. When it is as infrequent as once a month, you put up with it to deal with the obesity (and obesity related health issues -- no vanity here, I have severe obstructive sleep apnea, high cholesterol, arthritis in my knees, and am on the edge of pre-diabetes).

I have lost the weight twice on WW, counting points, and the weight came back each time. My doctor insisted I try the GLP-1. Do I feel better this much lighter? Of course. Will I stick with it? Probably. But I'm not sure, this was pretty bad and the thought of it happening again is traumatizing.

So ... is this the "easy way?" Hell no. Hell, hell, hell no.

If you haven't been through this, then you have no idea what your are talking about.

This only happens once, and then you learn not to eat crap and be really careful when you’re traveling. It’s much healthier to never ever eat junk food and to not overeat. These drugs ensure you do that. Eat a few carrots for breakfast and a small salad for dinner and you’ll never crap your pants again.

Anonymous wrote:Well ... this afternoon was horrific.

I have been on Wegovy about a year, and have lost a little over 50 lbs (SW: 227 CW about 170). My weight gain was due to medication. It is frustrating to add another med to lose the weight caused by the first med, but I want to live, so, here we are.

For those of you who call GLP-1 meds "the easy way" ... I $h!t my pants today. Literally. I had a one hour drive. From FFX to home in the historic Occoquan area. About 20 mins from my destination, the gas and horrible stomach pain started. I was literally crying in my car and yelling "It's ok, it's ok" at myself, trying to hold it. It was the windy roads of Prince William and nowhere to stop. I got all the way home, in tears, stood up out of my car, and it all rushed out of my body. All over my new shorts and down my legs into my shoes.

Utterly humiliating. And it hurt. A lot.

So why am I taking the med if this happens? Well, this exact thing had not happened before. These really bad GI side effects only happen about once a month for me, and every time thus far they have happened at night at home when I was right next to a bathroom. It hadn't happened at work, and hadn't happened anywhere else but home. When it is as infrequent as once a month, you put up with it to deal with the obesity (and obesity related health issues -- no vanity here, I have severe obstructive sleep apnea, high cholesterol, arthritis in my knees, and am on the edge of pre-diabetes).

I have lost the weight twice on WW, counting points, and the weight came back each time. My doctor insisted I try the GLP-1. Do I feel better this much lighter? Of course. Will I stick with it? Probably. But I'm not sure, this was pretty bad and the thought of it happening again is traumatizing.

So ... is this the "easy way?" Hell no. Hell, hell, hell no.

If you haven't been through this, then you have no idea what your are talking about.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started GLP-1 at 5’7 and 145 lbs. Now down to 124 lbs and getting a lot of comments and questions about what I did. I don’t confess. I just say I resolved to eat healthier this year and doubled my gym attendance, both of which are true. My long time gym did a spotlight on me. I do feel a sense of shame and guilt for not telling people the whole story, especially those who could really benefit from these miraculous drugs. But women are awful, as evidenced here. I’m keeping my secret!

So you are not one of the people who have a true medical need to lose weight. I think the vanity users trigger the gossipers then the medical users are all lumped into that same vanity category.

As an athlete an inch shorter- 145 has been my set weight as a size 2-4, xs since my early 20s. I’m 55. Muscular. I look anorexic if I drop below 140.

Yeah. My spouse gets angry when I talk about “weight” since muscle mass and less fat/more muscle is most important. I “weigh” heavy. People (even doctors) think I’m 125-130 and I’m 145. Athlete. Big wrist bones/ribcage, visible abs in my 50s.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I started GLP-1 at 5’7 and 145 lbs. Now down to 124 lbs and getting a lot of comments and questions about what I did. I don’t confess. I just say I resolved to eat healthier this year and doubled my gym attendance, both of which are true. My long time gym did a spotlight on me. I do feel a sense of shame and guilt for not telling people the whole story, especially those who could really benefit from these miraculous drugs. But women are awful, as evidenced here. I’m keeping my secret!

So you are not one of the people who have a true medical need to lose weight. I think the vanity users trigger the gossipers then the medical users are all lumped into that same vanity category.

As an athlete an inch shorter- 145 has been my set weight as a size 2-4, xs since my early 20s. I’m 55. Muscular. I look anorexic if I drop below 140.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fine if a GLP1 helped you lose weight. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you. We all need help sometimes, but there's also nothing wrong with admitting you needed assistance. If you're going to enjoy someone commenting on your weightloss or how thin you look, then you also need to accept that people are going to wonder how you did it. These 2 things go together. If you feel shame about how you lost the weight, then that's your issue to reconcile.

Lol, I'm on it and it doesn't "bother" me to hear that, it just sounds ridiculous.

No one would call what I've been through -- for over a year now -- on Wegovy "the easy way." The side effects can be hellish. But the long term effects of obesity are as well.

It's the easy way compared to consistent diet and exercise. Again, if you need some help... great. But the reason why people are taking these meds in the first place is because making the right dietary and exercise choices to lose weight (and keep it off) is incredibly challenging to stick with.

A size 12 to a 4??? Come on- that is just a lack of discipline. That’s not even who the drugs were designed for. Uneeded costly pharmaceuticals, yeah, I’m against. But- for the truly obese and diabetics sure- not the Real Housewives.

The women that are in their 50s and did it in my neighborhood aged 15 years in a few months time. That brittle boned old lady look. A few look like they are wearing an 8-year old boy’s jeans.

Oh - and I say this as a 55-year old perimenopausal woman that gained 10 pounds overnight — but slapped on the weighted vest, added protein cut out garbage food - and lost it in 3 months. Was it easy? No. I still did my regular workout and walked at night. I cut out the wine. I stopped sighting snacking even when the food noise was loud as hell. I felt so much better each passing day.

Are they on these things for life now? The vanity Ozempic users or will they yo-yo with them?

I guess I am a vanity user. I went from a size 8/10 to a size 2 by losing 30 pounds over a year on these drugs (and only after trying to lose the weight on my own through diet and exercise). I plan to be on these drugs for life. Call it what you will, the easy way, the lazy way, etc. These comments don’t bother me. I think anyone who is struggling to lose weight on their own should give them a go. And good for you for doing it your way! I’m genuinely glad it worked out for you. For many others it’s too damn hard (it was for me)!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fine if a GLP1 helped you lose weight. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you. We all need help sometimes, but there's also nothing wrong with admitting you needed assistance. If you're going to enjoy someone commenting on your weightloss or how thin you look, then you also need to accept that people are going to wonder how you did it. These 2 things go together. If you feel shame about how you lost the weight, then that's your issue to reconcile.

Lol, I'm on it and it doesn't "bother" me to hear that, it just sounds ridiculous.

No one would call what I've been through -- for over a year now -- on Wegovy "the easy way." The side effects can be hellish. But the long term effects of obesity are as well.

It's the easy way compared to consistent diet and exercise. Again, if you need some help... great. But the reason why people are taking these meds in the first place is because making the right dietary and exercise choices to lose weight (and keep it off) is incredibly challenging to stick with.

A size 12 to a 4??? Come on- that is just a lack of discipline. That’s not even who the drugs were designed for. Uneeded costly pharmaceuticals, yeah, I’m against. But- for the truly obese and diabetics sure- not the Real Housewives.

The women that are in their 50s and did it in my neighborhood aged 15 years in a few months time. That brittle boned old lady look. A few look like they are wearing an 8-year old boy’s jeans.

Oh - and I say this as a 55-year old perimenopausal woman that gained 10 pounds overnight — but slapped on the weighted vest, added protein cut out garbage food - and lost it in 3 months. Was it easy? No. I still did my regular workout and walked at night. I cut out the wine. I stopped sighting snacking even when the food noise was loud as hell. I felt so much better each passing day.

Are they on these things for life now? The vanity Ozempic users or will they yo-yo with them?