Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd grade
NNAT: 148
CoGAT: 139
In Pool (Yes/No): Yes
iReady Math Percentile: 99
iReady Reading Percentile: 86
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 1 almost always, 4 often, 4 sometimes, 2 rarely. and 5 exceptional subjects - 2e (anxious) student
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not In
Submitting an appeal and getting WISC done. would appreciate any suggestions and thoughts on what additional info to include with appeal?
Don't appeal. Your child is definitely smart and qualified. The issue is the HOPE rating. Anything in the sometimes and rarely will automatically DQ him/her.
The WISC would need to be 150+
Most of these schools are looking for the 'MODEL' student.
While your child is smart, his/her current teacher did not give him/her a great hope rating and that really is the key. The grades is just a filter to see who is eligible and the real deciding factor is whether your child is going to be problematic for the school/teacher.
I rather you not get your hopes up and go through all these efforts and spend $400 at GMU to do the WISC test to end up only in disappointment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd grade
NNAT: 148
CoGAT: 139
In Pool (Yes/No): Yes
iReady Math Percentile: 99
iReady Reading Percentile: 86
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 1 almost always, 4 often, 4 sometimes, 2 rarely. and 5 exceptional subjects - 2e (anxious) student
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not In
Submitting an appeal and getting WISC done. would appreciate any suggestions and thoughts on what additional info to include with appeal?
Don't appeal. Your child is definitely smart and qualified. The issue is the HOPE rating. Anything in the sometimes and rarely will automatically DQ him/her.
The WISC would need to be 150+
Most of these schools are looking for the 'MODEL' student.
While your child is smart, his/her current teacher did not give him/her a great hope rating and that really is the key. The grades is just a filter to see who is eligible and the real deciding factor is whether your child is going to be problematic for the school/teacher.
I rather you not get your hopes up and go through all these efforts and spend $400 at GMU to do the WISC test to end up only in disappointment.
Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd grade
NNAT: 148
CoGAT: 139
In Pool (Yes/No): Yes
iReady Math Percentile: 99
iReady Reading Percentile: 86
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 1 almost always, 4 often, 4 sometimes, 2 rarely. and 5 exceptional subjects - 2e (anxious) student
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not In
Submitting an appeal and getting WISC done. would appreciate any suggestions and thoughts on what additional info to include with appeal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, i'm sorry, i'm new to this - what is "in-pool"??
It means your kid was the top 10% of their school on an average (we think, some combination) of NNAT and CogAT scores, and would have been screened for AAP whether or not your kid was parent (or teacher) referred. About 2/3rds of kids who are in-pool get in during a typical year.
THANK YOU! How do we know if this is the case?? Is this another data point, like HOPE, that we can request?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd
NNAT: 137
CoGAT: 131
In Pool (Yes/No): No
iReady Math Percentile: 96th
iReady Reading Percentile: 93rd
VALLS: 712 of 720
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 5 always for acadmic related questions/6 almost always for social questions for HOPE with Maths and Reading/Writing marked as exceptional subjects.
Since it changed from GBRS to HOPE(which I find GBRS much more helpul getting to know what/how actually my child does in school)so I have no idea if this is strong rating to appeal.
Somehow he messed up some online tests, but otherswise he is a strong student. Our AART has never been very helpful, so just want to get some thoughts about appealing with these specs. Don’t want to hassle around if low chance.
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not in
I would guess that your child was borderline based on all of the test scores. The CoGAT was 131 and the iReadys were in the low to mid 90th percentile. I would guess that your kid is seen as being a better fit for Advanced Math then AAP because the iReady was in the 93rd percentile while the math was 96th percentile. The ES feeding into Chantilly have strong ES where kids are likely to have higher test scores, iReady scores, and the like.
Thank you for your feedback! I agree, it would probably have been his test scores that have put him borderline. I was thinking to appeal though with better samples and wisc to supplement as he got strong HOPE. If he didn’t get good HOPE, I would never bother to appeal.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd
NNAT: 137
CoGAT: 131
In Pool (Yes/No): No
iReady Math Percentile: 96th
iReady Reading Percentile: 93rd
VALLS: 712 of 720
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 5 always for acadmic related questions/6 almost always for social questions for HOPE with Maths and Reading/Writing marked as exceptional subjects.
Since it changed from GBRS to HOPE(which I find GBRS much more helpul getting to know what/how actually my child does in school)so I have no idea if this is strong rating to appeal.
Somehow he messed up some online tests, but otherswise he is a strong student. Our AART has never been very helpful, so just want to get some thoughts about appealing with these specs. Don’t want to hassle around if low chance.
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not in
I would guess that your child was borderline based on all of the test scores. The CoGAT was 131 and the iReadys were in the low to mid 90th percentile. I would guess that your kid is seen as being a better fit for Advanced Math then AAP because the iReady was in the 93rd percentile while the math was 96th percentile. The ES feeding into Chantilly have strong ES where kids are likely to have higher test scores, iReady scores, and the like.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd
NNAT: 137
CoGAT: 131
In Pool (Yes/No): No
iReady Math Percentile: 96th
iReady Reading Percentile: 93rd
VALLS: 712 of 720
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 5 always for acadmic related questions/6 almost always for social questions for HOPE with Maths and Reading/Writing marked as exceptional subjects.
Since it changed from GBRS to HOPE(which I find GBRS much more helpul getting to know what/how actually my child does in school)so I have no idea if this is strong rating to appeal.
Somehow he messed up some online tests, but otherswise he is a strong student. Our AART has never been very helpful, so just want to get some thoughts about appealing with these specs. Don’t want to hassle around if low chance.
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not in
This is a very strong HOPE. I would definitely appeal. Can you get a WISC?
That does seem like a great HOPE. Is there anything you can do in the cover letter to talk about the social areas that are "almost always?" If I were a committee member I'd be weighting the academics more (they do emphasize, after all, how AAP is an academic program when they tell you not to submit Legos and artwork as a work sample without compelling explanations to go with), but maybe you got people who took the social really seriously?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd
NNAT: 137
CoGAT: 131
In Pool (Yes/No): No
iReady Math Percentile: 96th
iReady Reading Percentile: 93rd
VALLS: 712 of 720
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 5 always for acadmic related questions/6 almost always for social questions for HOPE with Maths and Reading/Writing marked as exceptional subjects.
Since it changed from GBRS to HOPE(which I find GBRS much more helpul getting to know what/how actually my child does in school)so I have no idea if this is strong rating to appeal.
Somehow he messed up some online tests, but otherswise he is a strong student. Our AART has never been very helpful, so just want to get some thoughts about appealing with these specs. Don’t want to hassle around if low chance.
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not in
This is a very strong HOPE. I would definitely appeal. Can you get a WISC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, i'm sorry, i'm new to this - what is "in-pool"??
It means your kid was the top 10% of their school on an average (we think, some combination) of NNAT and CogAT scores, and would have been screened for AAP whether or not your kid was parent (or teacher) referred. About 2/3rds of kids who are in-pool get in during a typical year.
Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd
NNAT: 137
CoGAT: 131
In Pool (Yes/No): No
iReady Math Percentile: 96th
iReady Reading Percentile: 93rd
VALLS: 712 of 720
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 5 always for acadmic related questions/6 almost always for social questions for HOPE with Maths and Reading/Writing marked as exceptional subjects.
Since it changed from GBRS to HOPE(which I find GBRS much more helpul getting to know what/how actually my child does in school)so I have no idea if this is strong rating to appeal.
Somehow he messed up some online tests, but otherswise he is a strong student. Our AART has never been very helpful, so just want to get some thoughts about appealing with these specs. Don’t want to hassle around if low chance.
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not in
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Current Grade: 2nd
NNAT: 137
CoGAT: 131
In Pool (Yes/No): No
iReady Math Percentile: 96th
iReady Reading Percentile: 93rd
VALLS: 712 of 720
HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 5 always for acadmic related questions/6 almost always for social questions for HOPE with Maths and Reading/Writing marked as exceptional subjects.
Since it changed from GBRS to HOPE(which I find GBRS much more helpul getting to know what/how actually my child does in school)so I have no idea if this is strong rating to appeal.
Somehow he messed up some online tests, but otherswise he is a strong student. Our AART has never been very helpful, so just want to get some thoughts about appealing with these specs. Don’t want to hassle around if low chance.
Pyramid: Chantilly
In/not in: Not in
This is a very strong HOPE. I would definitely appeal. Can you get a WISC?
Anonymous wrote:Ok, i'm sorry, i'm new to this - what is "in-pool"??