Anonymous
03/04/2025 03:28
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Are these people collecting social security checks or just those with social security numbers? I think it's the latter. He needs to look at social security disability fraud.
Is he going to be checking each case for fraud himself now that he fired bureaucrats who investigate fraud?
Musk is not a real American and will never understand how our government works. Trump’s no scholar either. Musk is a scamming grifter. Read about how he had nothing to do with developing the electric car. He came in later using tactics of lies, deception, fraud, and came out the other side with Tesla.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 01:08
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Cancel social security and keep collecting taxes and use them to pay down the debt.
Why don't you announce this to the general public and see how that goes.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 01:07
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Cancel social security and keep collecting taxes and use them to pay down the debt.
You mean just kill off all the elderly who survive only off SS? Or deny those who already worked 3 decades and are nearing retirement whatever they paid into, like legit *confiscating* the money these people paid into the system for a very long time and telling them that they now have to get a high paying job in their 50s to try to "save" and "invest" enough for their retirement or work till they drop dead given employers won't kick them out? Are you sure, comrade? I know you must love confiscation of property for the "greater good"
Anonymous
03/04/2025 00:53
Subject: Re:Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Johnson is repeating Elon's claim that most SS payments are fraudulent. Big cuts are coming, but they're just going to claim they were actually "fraud."
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljfyyh4kvd2y
My guess it they will start a "freeze" social security disability payments while they conduct a "review" to determine which ones are "fraud." That would be in line with how they've done the USAID and NIH cuts. They will go after SSDI first because that's not as politically popular.
SSDI is retirement for a huge percentage of blue collar workers. It's going to become real popular pretty quickly once it stops
That shouldn't be the case. Those benefits should be carefully scrutinized.
They are. But, if you are 60 with a high school education or less and have spent 40+ years doing manual labor, your body has probably broken down enough that you legit can’t stand and walk for 6 hours and lift and carry 20 pound s at least 3 hours a day and Qp pounds another 3, with various bending, stooping, etc.
If you have no transferrable skills or skilled work, it’s progressively y easier to qualify at 55 and 60. You’re a DMV lawyer who has more education, some skills and can sit at a desk with stretch breaks? That’s not so easy. But hardcore manual labor over decades takes a toll.
Yep, if "scrutinized" means sending all the "useless eaters" to pasture. They don't want to talk about changing workplace to allow people who are unable to toil full time in current environment to keep making a living. If your body is broken off you go.. over the rainbow. Soylent Green.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 00:49
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves
I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.
The average American is not rich or know about investing like you. The average American makes 60k a year, would lose their nest egg, and would be on government assistance in old age anyway. You might not want to hear this because you’re a sophisticated rich educated person but most people aren’t you.
Great, make a pool for them and don't make it mandatory for everyone else. Let people choose what's right for them.
And where do you think the money for that pool would come from?
Self fund it for those that chose to participate if no company would back it then it's not a viable program
Company backing it up means what? Pensions? Make pensions great again? You know it's not how the modern workplace is structured anymore, right? Nobody will be able to stay employed in one place for decades to earn any sizeable pension. And employers don't want extra tax for every employee. Now what?
Anonymous
03/04/2025 00:33
Subject: Re:Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Johnson is repeating Elon's claim that most SS payments are fraudulent. Big cuts are coming, but they're just going to claim they were actually "fraud."
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljfyyh4kvd2y
My guess it they will start a "freeze" social security disability payments while they conduct a "review" to determine which ones are "fraud." That would be in line with how they've done the USAID and NIH cuts. They will go after SSDI first because that's not as politically popular.
SSDI is retirement for a huge percentage of blue collar workers. It's going to become real popular pretty quickly once it stops
That shouldn't be the case. Those benefits should be carefully scrutinized.
They are. But, if you are 60 with a high school education or less and have spent 40+ years doing manual labor, your body has probably broken down enough that you legit can’t stand and walk for 6 hours and lift and carry 20 pound s at least 3 hours a day and Qp pounds another 3, with various bending, stooping, etc.
If you have no transferrable skills or skilled work, it’s progressively y easier to qualify at 55 and 60. You’re a DMV lawyer who has more education, some skills and can sit at a desk with stretch breaks? That’s not so easy. But hardcore manual labor over decades takes a toll.
Anonymous
03/03/2025 21:22
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Cancel social security and keep collecting taxes and use them to pay down the debt.
Anonymous
03/03/2025 21:21
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves
I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.
The average American is not rich or know about investing like you. The average American makes 60k a year, would lose their nest egg, and would be on government assistance in old age anyway. You might not want to hear this because you’re a sophisticated rich educated person but most people aren’t you.
Great, make a pool for them and don't make it mandatory for everyone else. Let people choose what's right for them.
And where do you think the money for that pool would come from?
I have an idea. We could create a government funded social safety net for the elderly. Oh wait..
Anonymous
03/03/2025 09:46
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only way people are going to wake up from their apathy is if it starts affecting the boomers’ SSA payments. So bring it on.
Except Boomers aren’t the problem so much as GenZ males. And abolishing SS fits right in with that world view.
There are a lot of people, across generations, who either are not paying attention to what is going on right now or simply don’t care because it hasn’t personally affected them yet.
Anonymous
03/03/2025 06:33
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only way people are going to wake up from their apathy is if it starts affecting the boomers’ SSA payments. So bring it on.
Except Boomers aren’t the problem so much as GenZ males. And abolishing SS fits right in with that world view.
Not anymore.
"They are not so close, and in fact have shown a startlingly swing when it comes to Gen Z voters.
"With that group, folks aged 18-29, Trump started with a plus-19 favorable rating back in November and is now at minus-18 points, per The Economist/YouGov poll.
"That is a nearly 40-point swing to the negative"
https://www.pennlive.com/politics/2025/02/donald-trumps-approval-rating-has-plummetted-dramatically-with-one-group.html
Anonymous
03/03/2025 05:08
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:The only way people are going to wake up from their apathy is if it starts affecting the boomers’ SSA payments. So bring it on.
Except Boomers aren’t the problem so much as GenZ males. And abolishing SS fits right in with that world view.
Anonymous
03/03/2025 04:25
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
The only way people are going to wake up from their apathy is if it starts affecting the boomers’ SSA payments. So bring it on.
Anonymous
03/03/2025 03:19
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Yes I'd like a buyout and then opt out of ss even if it's half of what I put in I would benefit much more from it. My retirement plans do not include ss as part or my income I plan to use it 5 houses I bought and rent them out when I retire in 20 year.
Because it’s all about you, right? No interest in a baseline to support your fellow citizens who don’t have the resources to buy a bunch of real estate.
Anonymous
03/02/2025 20:43
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Yes I'd like a buyout and then opt out of ss even if it's half of what I put in I would benefit much more from it. My retirement plans do not include ss as part or my income I plan to use it 5 houses I bought and rent them out when I retire in 20 year.
Anonymous
03/02/2025 20:42
Subject: Elon is coming for social security
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves
I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.
The average American is not rich or know about investing like you. The average American makes 60k a year, would lose their nest egg, and would be on government assistance in old age anyway. You might not want to hear this because you’re a sophisticated rich educated person but most people aren’t you.
Great, make a pool for them and don't make it mandatory for everyone else. Let people choose what's right for them.
And where do you think the money for that pool would come from?
Self fund it for those that chose to participate if no company would back it then it's not a viable program