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Anonymous wrote:So no one got in ED? Because almost no stats were posted here.

Can someone link the correct Reddit thread? I can’t seem to find the right one with actual stats.

My son was deferred for ED at UVA. He's remaining hopeful because according to the scattergram, he only had a 10% chance of getting in.

People got in (my kid did) but this thread is such a disaster that I think most people don't want to post. It is a shame the thread went off the rails. It was helpful in the past when ours was figuring out where to apply.

I will post just in case the information is useful to others.

FCPS
3.9/4.3 GPA
1570 SAT
13 APs (6 senior year) in all core subjects and 5 years of language
Average ECs

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

This is like the most 1970s view of professors and how the world works that I could possibly imagine.

It literally worked that way for me twice, much more recently than the 1970s. I sat in the room while the professor called his connection and recommended that I get the job. If you don't think that still happens you are very naive.

And you surely have proof that professor at "non-elite" colleges are not able to do that? Yeah, I didn't think so.

I'm sorry the profs at your crappy alma mater couldn't do that for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is in in WITHOUT 3-4 years of language?

Not even three?

My DC got in with only two years of foreign language.

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

This is like the most 1970s view of professors and how the world works that I could possibly imagine.

It literally worked that way for me twice, much more recently than the 1970s. I sat in the room while the professor called his connection and recommended that I get the job. If you don't think that still happens you are very naive.

And you surely have proof that professor at "non-elite" colleges are not able to do that? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Anonymous wrote:If your counselor doesn't check the most rigorous box, your chances are nil.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is in in WITHOUT 3-4 years of language?

Not even three?

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

Ummmm, my professors didn't help me at all get a job. I did it myself and life turned out pretty great. Not their job to get your kid a job.

I found that the professors in my SLAC knew nothing about how the real world worked. No wonder so many of my classmates are living hand to mouth 35 years later. Many of them thought I was evil for going to law school.

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

This is like the most 1970s view of professors and how the world works that I could possibly imagine.

It literally worked that way for me twice, much more recently than the 1970s. I sat in the room while the professor called his connection and recommended that I get the job. If you don't think that still happens you are very naive.

Nope, just well aware of how kids get hired in the 21st century and how the most desired companies and industries do their hiring. I guarantee that fewer than 1 percent of kids are getting their jobs due to professors making “a single phone call.”

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

This is like the most 1970s view of professors and how the world works that I could possibly imagine.

It literally worked that way for me twice, much more recently than the 1970s. I sat in the room while the professor called his connection and recommended that I get the job. If you don't think that still happens you are very naive.

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Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering,

This would be good. Every young woman I know from TJ who went off to UVA ... did not end up in STEM. It's like UVA sucked all the ambition out of them.

I read something by Malcolm Gladwell about this idea. Hard to do STEM at an academic powerhouse.

The video of his lecture about this is online, search:
Malcolm Gladwell on why you should never study at an elite college, but should rather choose a college where you are sure you can be the top student in your program.

I think there’s a lot of truth to this. Go where your talents and academic strengths will stand out. Find mentors in your department who will use their connections to help you get ahead. I firmly believe it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond vs just one of many stellar students.

Professors at non-elite colleges do not have as good a set of connections to help you get ahead as do the professors at elite colleges. Professors at an elite school can get you an internship, a fellowship, or a job with a single phone call. Professors at Podunk State simply can't.

This is like the most 1970s view of professors and how the world works that I could possibly imagine.

It literally worked that way for me twice, much more recently than the 1970s. I sat in the room while the professor called his connection and recommended that I get the job. If you don't think that still happens you are very naive.

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Anonymous wrote:That is a crazy take football creates so many life lessons and I am so glad my DS played all four years. It taught him so many leadership skills and made him in a better person.

+1 playing football is good for the country

Great. But why is it important that they take spots at college over other kids? Why not just play pro then or play for fun and get into a college based on academic merit?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please tell me they got in without 4 years of a foreign language in high school? Signed, a person waiting for EA on 2/15

My son got in, he only took 2 years of a foreign language in high school in MCPS.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please tell me they got in without 4 years of a foreign language in high school? Signed, a person waiting for EA on 2/15