There is no concession for which he's negotiating. Trump thoroughly believes that tariffs are paid to the US Treasury - that's it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to artificially pump up Q4 numbers and get the stock market humming and get concessions from all of these countries. I take it no one in here has ever negotiated anything.

Sure. Trade wars always are predictable. Imposing tariffs on Mexico and Canada means leave USMCA. You can look up what that is.

He is bluffing. SMH. People on here are a special kind of dumb.

Let's see what the markets say tomorrow. I'm already so tired of this policy by "truth."

Futures are currently red.

Stock market is soaring today as I predicted. Dems wrong about yet another thing.

It’s not soaring. The Dow is down 200 points, and the Nasdaq and S&P 500 are slightly up but on the same trajectory they’ve been on for a year plus.

Oh so the markets know more than you bozos in this thread and aren’t phased at all and know it’s a negotiating tactic? Got it. Thanks for playing.

Just to confirm, you agree the market is not “soaring”? Correct?

Just to confirm. The S&P went above 6,000 this morning and the markets seem not care at all about these tariff negotiation tactics like everyone on this thread because hedge fund managers are high IQ, rational people and not easily frazzled Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers.

Trump spent the last 6 months of his campaign extolling the virtue of tariffs. He has announced on his social media platform the imposition of tariffs on day one. YOU are the only one calling it a "negotiation tactic"

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Anonymous wrote:Given that these tariffs are a massive new Federal tax, has Trump given any indication what he wants this revenue for?

To offset major tax cuts in the next Republican tax bills.

Trump is basically levying a backdoor VAT.

Which will CRUSH his voters. But since there won't be anymore elections, they will just have to live with it.

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Anonymous wrote:The markets are naively thinking his Treasury secretary will talk him out of it. Lol

When you bid on a house that’s been on the market for a year do you bid exactly the ask or do you bid 10-20% down because you have the advantage as the buyer in that situation? America can afford to play hardball with all these countries because at the end of the day they’re in a lot worse situation than us if we put tariffs on their goods and limit access to our consumers, not the other way around. I thought this was common sense…

You have to remind yourself that you’re arguing with people who have never closed a deal in their lives, who have no idea they’re getting swindled when they gladly pay a GC $75,000 for a full bath reno. Having a discussion about negotiation tactics with them is a fool’s errand.

Ok genius. The point of hardball negotiation is to get a concession. What, exactly, are we trying to get from Canada? His Majesty’s tweet mentioned stemming the flow of drugs and immigrants from Canada. Neither is remotely a front line issue for the US. In fact, by most accounts the flow of drugs is the other direction, from the US into Canada. So again… what strategic concession (trade or otherwise) are we trying to wrangle from Canada? If there isn’t one, then it’s just a petulant old man throwing bricks at our allies because he can.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to artificially pump up Q4 numbers and get the stock market humming and get concessions from all of these countries. I take it no one in here has ever negotiated anything.

Sure. Trade wars always are predictable. Imposing tariffs on Mexico and Canada means leave USMCA. You can look up what that is.

He is bluffing. SMH. People on here are a special kind of dumb.

Let's see what the markets say tomorrow. I'm already so tired of this policy by "truth."

Futures are currently red.

Stock market is soaring today as I predicted. Dems wrong about yet another thing.

It’s not soaring. The Dow is down 200 points, and the Nasdaq and S&P 500 are slightly up but on the same trajectory they’ve been on for a year plus.

Oh so the markets know more than you bozos in this thread and aren’t phased at all and know it’s a negotiating tactic? Got it. Thanks for playing.

Right, the business genius who went bankrupt running casinos and basically kills everything he touches is playing 12-dimensional chess and we're all just idiots because we don't see his "vision". GMAFB

Is this the same business genius who got elected to a second term after everyone in the MSM called him a Nazi, he fought multiple court cases, and dealt with smears that he was a Russian agent for 8 years?

Maybe the Dems should try to unironically play 12-dimensional chess and win a national election next time?!

What does anything you listed have to do with business acumen?

Marketing is probably the biggest component of creating a strong brand / business. Trump is a great marketer, which is why people around the world knew who he was before he was president. Duh.

How will marketing make tariffs lower prices?

Imports from Mexico (2023): $480.05 billion

Imports from Canada (2023): $429.60 billion

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there were approximately 128.6 million households in the United States in 2023.

Additional taxes per U.S. household due to a 25% tariff on imports from Mexico and Canada is estimated at approximately $1,769.80.

So they'll be paying nearly $2k more in taxes per household.

Income Group: Bottom 50% Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) Range: Up to $46,637 Average AGI: $19,192 Average Tax Rate: 3.3% Average Tax Paid: $633

Income Group: 50th to 90th Percentile AGI Range: $46,637 to $174,000 Average AGI: $85,853 Average Tax Rate: 8.1% Average Tax Paid: $6,954

So, about 80% of all tax-paying households should see a significant tax increase.

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Anonymous wrote:The markets are naively thinking his Treasury secretary will talk him out of it. Lol

When you bid on a house that’s been on the market for a year do you bid exactly the ask or do you bid 10-20% down because you have the advantage as the buyer in that situation? America can afford to play hardball with all these countries because at the end of the day they’re in a lot worse situation than us if we put tariffs on their goods and limit access to our consumers, not the other way around. I thought this was common sense…

You have to remind yourself that you’re arguing with people who have never closed a deal in their lives, who have no idea they’re getting swindled when they gladly pay a GC $75,000 for a full bath reno. Having a discussion about negotiation tactics with them is a fool’s errand.

Since you’re so smart, can you explain how this will lower prices? Thx.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to artificially pump up Q4 numbers and get the stock market humming and get concessions from all of these countries. I take it no one in here has ever negotiated anything.

Sure. Trade wars always are predictable. Imposing tariffs on Mexico and Canada means leave USMCA. You can look up what that is.

He is bluffing. SMH. People on here are a special kind of dumb.

Let's see what the markets say tomorrow. I'm already so tired of this policy by "truth."

Futures are currently red.

Stock market is soaring today as I predicted. Dems wrong about yet another thing.

It’s not soaring. The Dow is down 200 points, and the Nasdaq and S&P 500 are slightly up but on the same trajectory they’ve been on for a year plus.

Oh so the markets know more than you bozos in this thread and aren’t phased at all and know it’s a negotiating tactic? Got it. Thanks for playing.

Right, the business genius who went bankrupt running casinos and basically kills everything he touches is playing 12-dimensional chess and we're all just idiots because we don't see his "vision". GMAFB

Is this the same business genius who got elected to a second term after everyone in the MSM called him a Nazi, he fought multiple court cases, and dealt with smears that he was a Russian agent for 8 years?

Maybe the Dems should try to unironically play 12-dimensional chess and win a national election next time?!

What does anything you listed have to do with business acumen?

Marketing is probably the biggest component of creating a strong brand / business. Trump is a great marketer, which is why people around the world knew who he was before he was president. Duh.

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Anonymous wrote:The markets are naively thinking his Treasury secretary will talk him out of it. Lol

When you bid on a house that’s been on the market for a year do you bid exactly the ask or do you bid 10-20% down because you have the advantage as the buyer in that situation? America can afford to play hardball with all these countries because at the end of the day they’re in a lot worse situation than us if we put tariffs on their goods and limit access to our consumers, not the other way around. I thought this was common sense…

You have to remind yourself that you’re arguing with people who have never closed a deal in their lives, who have no idea they’re getting swindled when they gladly pay a GC $75,000 for a full bath reno. Having a discussion about negotiation tactics with them is a fool’s errand.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to artificially pump up Q4 numbers and get the stock market humming and get concessions from all of these countries. I take it no one in here has ever negotiated anything.

Sure. Trade wars always are predictable. Imposing tariffs on Mexico and Canada means leave USMCA. You can look up what that is.

He is bluffing. SMH. People on here are a special kind of dumb.

Let's see what the markets say tomorrow. I'm already so tired of this policy by "truth."

Futures are currently red.

Stock market is soaring today as I predicted. Dems wrong about yet another thing.

It’s not soaring. The Dow is down 200 points, and the Nasdaq and S&P 500 are slightly up but on the same trajectory they’ve been on for a year plus.

Oh so the markets know more than you bozos in this thread and aren’t phased at all and know it’s a negotiating tactic? Got it. Thanks for playing.

Right, the business genius who went bankrupt running casinos and basically kills everything he touches is playing 12-dimensional chess and we're all just idiots because we don't see his "vision". GMAFB

Is this the same business genius who got elected to a second term after everyone in the MSM called him a Nazi, he fought multiple court cases, and dealt with smears that he was a Russian agent for 8 years?

Maybe the Dems should try to unironically play 12-dimensional chess and win a national election next time?!

What does anything you listed have to do with business acumen?

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to artificially pump up Q4 numbers and get the stock market humming and get concessions from all of these countries. I take it no one in here has ever negotiated anything.

Sure. Trade wars always are predictable. Imposing tariffs on Mexico and Canada means leave USMCA. You can look up what that is.

He is bluffing. SMH. People on here are a special kind of dumb.

Let's see what the markets say tomorrow. I'm already so tired of this policy by "truth."

Futures are currently red.

Stock market is soaring today as I predicted. Dems wrong about yet another thing.

It’s not soaring. The Dow is down 200 points, and the Nasdaq and S&P 500 are slightly up but on the same trajectory they’ve been on for a year plus.

Oh so the markets know more than you bozos in this thread and aren’t phased at all and know it’s a negotiating tactic? Got it. Thanks for playing.

Just to confirm, you agree the market is not “soaring”? Correct?

Just to confirm. The S&P went above 6,000 this morning and the markets seem not care at all about these tariff negotiation tactics like everyone on this thread because hedge fund managers are high IQ, rational people and not easily frazzled Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers.

The S&P is up a mere 10 points. Is that “soaring”? Yes or no.

Anonymous wrote:The markets are naively thinking his Treasury secretary will talk him out of it. Lol

When you bid on a house that’s been on the market for a year do you bid exactly the ask or do you bid 10-20% down because you have the advantage as the buyer in that situation? America can afford to play hardball with all these countries because at the end of the day they’re in a lot worse situation than us if we put tariffs on their goods and limit access to our consumers, not the other way around. I thought this was common sense…

The markets are naively thinking his Treasury secretary will talk him out of it. Lol

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to artificially pump up Q4 numbers and get the stock market humming and get concessions from all of these countries. I take it no one in here has ever negotiated anything.

Sure. Trade wars always are predictable. Imposing tariffs on Mexico and Canada means leave USMCA. You can look up what that is.

He is bluffing. SMH. People on here are a special kind of dumb.

Let's see what the markets say tomorrow. I'm already so tired of this policy by "truth."

Futures are currently red.

Stock market is soaring today as I predicted. Dems wrong about yet another thing.

It’s not soaring. The Dow is down 200 points, and the Nasdaq and S&P 500 are slightly up but on the same trajectory they’ve been on for a year plus.

Oh so the markets know more than you bozos in this thread and aren’t phased at all and know it’s a negotiating tactic? Got it. Thanks for playing.

Just to confirm, you agree the market is not “soaring”? Correct?

Just to confirm. The S&P went above 6,000 this morning and the markets seem not care at all about these tariff negotiation tactics like everyone on this thread because hedge fund managers are high IQ, rational people and not easily frazzled Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers.

It;s not soaring. Please pay attention, and maybe save that $20 in your pocket instead of buying Dear Leadrs fake dollar bills.

No, I pulled out a $100,000 HELOC and shorted the market with triggers at 10:30 am. Please help me, I trusted you people!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Given that these tariffs are a massive new Federal tax, has Trump given any indication what he wants this revenue for?

To offset major tax cuts in the next Republican tax bills.

Trump is basically levying a backdoor VAT.

Bingo. I hope the poors who voted for him enjoy it.

They are spending their money on his 2 dollar bills