Is anyone still waiting for Cogat scores (like me)? I was hoping tomorrow they'd go out but not seeming like it. Still nothing on Parentvue.

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Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't a kid who has a 156 cogat be discussing skipping multiple grades rather than just attending AAP?

I think so too. AAP is not going to be challenging for kids with that high cogat score. I would consider private school or home school.

Grade skipping has a lot of social implications, and one test score is not enough to base that on. IIRC, this child had a good but not extremely high NNAT score. Classroom performance and other factors may weigh in as well. While I'm not a fan of the subjective factors that go into FCPS's AAP process, I'd want to consider other data and observe how the child interacts with her peers before skipping a grade. AAP is a different issue. If 20% of the second grade ends up there, ant kid scoring in the 95th percentile or above on two tests should be admitted. That allows for variability in test scores, "prepping,"and some room for social engineering to allow for a "holistic" approach without shutting out kids who should be there based on proven aptitude.

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't a kid who has a 156 cogat be discussing skipping multiple grades rather than just attending AAP?

I think so too. AAP is not going to be challenging for kids with that high cogat score. I would consider private school or home school.

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't a kid who has a 156 cogat be discussing skipping multiple grades rather than just attending AAP?

No. The child may still have other skills that are not at the level of an older child, e.g. writing, social skills and/or executive function skills. The discussion and decision to skip is usually based on more than raw test scores.

Shouldn't a kid who has a 156 cogat be discussing skipping multiple grades rather than just attending AAP?

We get a standard-based report card which is more or less meaningless. Scores between 1-4. Based on anecdotal evidence, all “smart” kids got the same breakdown of numbers for the first quarter.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

It will show as 99th percentile on the official report because the "tails" get hard to put a number on, but if you look at the actual stats (or check ChatGPT), it's really up there. How was the NNAT score, iReady, report card grades?

Unfortunately we’re in APS and there seems to be zero emphasis on educational talent/achievement (but a ton on whether your kid does travel soccer). No report card, no iReady. She did take NNAT in first grade and got a 136 (was told by the school it wasn’t really used). Every time I raise any questions about appropriate challenge with teachers or the gifted resource, I’m told to “not worry.” Apologies for popping into the FCPS thread but was looking for cogat info and seems to be the best source.

And we actually didn’t prep at all — we forgot about the testing days (again, APS, so basically zero emphasis) and had scheduled her annual physical and dentist appointments on test days and had to last minute reschedule!!

no report card for second graders in APS?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

It will show as 99th percentile on the official report because the "tails" get hard to put a number on, but if you look at the actual stats (or check ChatGPT), it's really up there. How was the NNAT score, iReady, report card grades?

Unfortunately we’re in APS and there seems to be zero emphasis on educational talent/achievement (but a ton on whether your kid does travel soccer). No report card, no iReady. She did take NNAT in first grade and got a 136 (was told by the school it wasn’t really used). Every time I raise any questions about appropriate challenge with teachers or the gifted resource, I’m told to “not worry.” Apologies for popping into the FCPS thread but was looking for cogat info and seems to be the best source.

And we actually didn’t prep at all — we forgot about the testing days (again, APS, so basically zero emphasis) and had scheduled her annual physical and dentist appointments on test days and had to last minute reschedule!!

I wonder if this is an APS problem or a problem with your specific elementary school and/or pyramid. I am in FCPS and DC was in one elementary school where the attitude was similar and now is in another elementary school in the same pyramid that is much more responsive and proactive about articulating that they strive to provide every child with appropriate challenge (whether they are successful at this or not is another matter...).

Are you considering moving to a new school/county? Sounds like your DC really needs more. Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

It will show as 99th percentile on the official report because the "tails" get hard to put a number on, but if you look at the actual stats (or check ChatGPT), it's really up there. How was the NNAT score, iReady, report card grades?

Unfortunately we’re in APS and there seems to be zero emphasis on educational talent/achievement (but a ton on whether your kid does travel soccer). No report card, no iReady. She did take NNAT in first grade and got a 136 (was told by the school it wasn’t really used). Every time I raise any questions about appropriate challenge with teachers or the gifted resource, I’m told to “not worry.” Apologies for popping into the FCPS thread but was looking for cogat info and seems to be the best source.

And we actually didn’t prep at all — we forgot about the testing days (again, APS, so basically zero emphasis) and had scheduled her annual physical and dentist appointments on test days and had to last minute reschedule!!

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

You obviously already know it is a good score. The max is 160 and I think ~135 is 99th. My kid’s 140 is also super high. It is unlikely your kid got that high taking test cold so you probably practiced.

As did you.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

For an equal number of correct answers, the youngest child in the class tends to get a higher VQN score compared to the oldest child.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

It will show as 99th percentile on the official report because the "tails" get hard to put a number on, but if you look at the actual stats (or check ChatGPT), it's really up there. How was the NNAT score, iReady, report card grades?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

You obviously already know it is a good score. The max is 160 and I think ~135 is 99th. My kid’s 140 is also super high. It is unlikely your kid got that high taking test cold so you probably practiced.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.

I actually couldn’t find anything beyond the 99th percentile number, which seems to be a huge range in raw scores. Before starting to do reading here, I actually wasn’t sure whether 156 was uncommon or not — in other words, in this area, do a number of kids have similar scores?

Anonymous wrote:Sorry in advance for what might be a silly question. My DD had a composite 156, which seems like an outlier in an otherwise high achieving pool. Is it? Just curious if a good number of her peers are similar.

With such a high-scoring child, surely you know the answer to your question or can easily find it. 156 on the CogAT is ~ 99.977 Percentile. Hopefully her other "holistic" factors don't hamper her.