Hopefully if the DOE is disbanded schools can go back to enforcing discipline. So many teachers are quitting because they are tired of being attacked, tired of witnessing out of control students facing no discipline, tired of watching two or three students completely ruin the classroom environment so no one can learn.

One student shouldn't hold a class hostage so that 20 to 30 kids don't learn that day because one student has a tantrum and is allowed to destroy a classroom and assault their teacher and classmates.

Right now ALL public schools are REQUIRED to report information to the Civil Rights Data Collection (CRDC). The CRDC measures student access to courses, programs, Internet and devices, instructional and other staff, and resources – as well as school climate factors such as student discipline, use of restraint and seclusion, harassment or bullying, and offenses occurring at schools.

In theory this seems like it is a good idea but it is out of control. They report things like more boys are suspended from school and that shouldn't be happening. Well, that is who causes the majority of the issues that result in suspension.

If any one race has lower or higher stats, that gets flagged so there are ridiculous statements like, "American Indian or Alaska Native students, Black students, White students, and students of two or more races were overrepresented in referrals to law enforcement and school-related arrests in public schools. (Figure 5)". So schools then worry about reporting anyone even though the statistics are not so out of whack.

There are pages and pages of information on every category. For example, the report goes on to say in this area "Black students represented 15% of total K-12 student enrollment, but 18% of students who were referred to law enforcement, and 22% of students subjected to school-related arrests.
• White students represented 46% of total K-12 student enrollment, but 55% of students who were referred to law enforcement, and 47% of students subjected to school-related arrests."

Here is another stat: "Black boys and girls, White boys, and boys of two or more races attending public schools were overrepresented in suspensions and expulsions".

So schools in response don't want to get flagged so there is no discipline. If there are zero suspensions then a school can't be found to have any category of student overrepresented.

Somehow the Trump administration thinks we will lead the world in AI having non-college educated kids graduating from MAGA schools who learned that slavery wasn't bad and that the earth is only 6,000 years old and that the civil war was the "War of Northern Aggression" but they don't know how to code in python and don't know statistics or linear algebra.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the state you live in dictates your education and available health care now, We are just the States of America, no longer United. Go SA?

are you suggesting states will start focusing public university spots for their own residents as opposed to out of state ones?

I would fully support VA pulling a UT Austin and auto accepting the best students in the state.

Anonymous wrote:When people want everything sent back to the states, I don’t think they understand how incompetent a lot of state agencies really are.

When people want to keep everything at the federal level, I don’t think they understand how incompetent a lot of federal agencies really are.

Anonymous wrote:So, the state you live in dictates your education and available health care now, We are just the States of America, no longer United. Go SA?

are you suggesting states will start focusing public university spots for their own residents as opposed to out of state ones?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

That is the point.

I pre-paid both kids’ educations in a one-income family (my spouse stayed at home until the kids were in late high school) by living frugally and putting money into a 529 fund. We kept driving old cars that were paid off, and only did a couple vacations during the kids’ entire upbringing. Then they both got a lot of scholarships, so most of the 529 money is going to carry forward for grandchildren. I also don’t spend money on tobacco, cable TV or other streaming services, alcohol, or tattoos and piercings. For entertainment the kids had library cards instead of expensive gaming consoles — which probably explains the large number of scholarships.

Life is mostly about choices like that, but it’s also important to keep in mind that a college degree is not the only path to financial success. Hard work and emotional intelligence are the main drivers. My kids’ friends who got CDL licenses or who work on HVAC systems are making fantastic money right now.

I volunteer at school recruitment tables for one of our high school sports teams, and I am often approached by parents who are literally covered from head to toe in tattoos, who ask it there is funding available to help pay for equipment. I tell them that they already blew the thousands of dollars on tattoos that could have been used for their kids’ proper upbringing, so our sports team may not be the right fit for them; it’s unwise to throw good money after bad.

That’s a good, national public policy too. As the saying goes, “stupid should hurt”.

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Your stupid is going to hurt when someone slaps you for not staying in your lane. Keep some of those savings liquid for medical bills.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with a kid with an IEP better be good at keeping records and adjusting your expectations. If you move from state to state the rules will be different. If the state budget changes, your kid's services may decrease. Fun times.

This is already the case!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

That is the point.

I pre-paid both kids’ educations in a one-income family (my spouse stayed at home until the kids were in late high school) by living frugally and putting money into a 529 fund. We kept driving old cars that were paid off, and only did a couple vacations during the kids’ entire upbringing. Then they both got a lot of scholarships, so most of the 529 money is going to carry forward for grandchildren. I also don’t spend money on tobacco, cable TV or other streaming services, alcohol, or tattoos and piercings. For entertainment the kids had library cards instead of expensive gaming consoles — which probably explains the large number of scholarships.

Life is mostly about choices like that, but it’s also important to keep in mind that a college degree is not the only path to financial success. Hard work and emotional intelligence are the main drivers. My kids’ friends who got CDL licenses or who work on HVAC systems are making fantastic money right now.

I volunteer at school recruitment tables for one of our high school sports teams, and I am often approached by parents who are literally covered from head to toe in tattoos, who ask it there is funding available to help pay for equipment. I tell them that they already blew the thousands of dollars on tattoos that could have been used for their kids’ proper upbringing, so our sports team may not be the right fit for them; it’s unwise to throw good money after bad.

That’s a good, national public policy too. As the saying goes, “stupid should hurt”.

Are we supposed to believe a robot didn’t write this? You’re telling me a real human chastises tattooed people and tells them their kid shouldn’t play high school sports simply because they asked about funding for equipment?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

That is the point.

I pre-paid both kids’ educations in a one-income family (my spouse stayed at home until the kids were in late high school) by living frugally and putting money into a 529 fund. We kept driving old cars that were paid off, and only did a couple vacations during the kids’ entire upbringing. Then they both got a lot of scholarships, so most of the 529 money is going to carry forward for grandchildren. I also don’t spend money on tobacco, cable TV or other streaming services, alcohol, or tattoos and piercings. For entertainment the kids had library cards instead of expensive gaming consoles — which probably explains the large number of scholarships.

Life is mostly about choices like that, but it’s also important to keep in mind that a college degree is not the only path to financial success. Hard work and emotional intelligence are the main drivers. My kids’ friends who got CDL licenses or who work on HVAC systems are making fantastic money right now.

I volunteer at school recruitment tables for one of our high school sports teams, and I am often approached by parents who are literally covered from head to toe in tattoos, who ask it there is funding available to help pay for equipment. I tell them that they already blew the thousands of dollars on tattoos that could have been used for their kids’ proper upbringing, so our sports team may not be the right fit for them; it’s unwise to throw good money after bad.

That’s a good, national public policy too. As the saying goes, “stupid should hurt”.

Then you must have a pretty good one income. The cost for me to prepay my kids’ education for public universities is more than $2000 a month. We live modestly and still can’t swing that. Imagine most people can’t either. Maybe don’t be so judgmental. You sound privileged.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will very soon learn that the only thing needed for education is a good teacher, chalk and a black board. Our education system isn't failing because it's not well funded enough. It's failing because these kids have way too many corporate backed distractions.

No, it's failing because 50% of a class has an ADHD or autism diagnosis with accommodations that require many resources and the other 50% are ESOL kids with parents at home who don't care if their kids learn English as long as they are in school and not needing daycare for 8 hours a day.

If I still had kids at home, there's no way I'd allow them in public school. The minority of kids, those kids without accommodations, are severely disadvantaged and cannot fairly compete with the kids with accommodations, like extra test time.

Exactly. They should be graded separately because they have accommodations. The existence of a 540 or IEP is an acknowledgement that they are not the same as other students, and there's been no study to decide how much extra time or which tool is considered "fair."

That’s just not true. Most kids getting IEPs and 504s have had extensive testing done by Doctors, both at the District’s expense and often the parent’s. The Doctors/PhDs are well aware of recent studies and give pages of explanation, reasoning, and testing in thick documents to the IEP/504 school committees. Many times these professionals will come to the IEP/504 meetings.

My child has a disability and graduated from TJHSST. They were admitted under the old system using the EXACT same requirements as others admitted, and they did very well.
It’s incredibly entitled that you think disabled students are somehow not as intelligent and must be “getting” extra as to why your kid isn’t doing as well. Be glad your kid doesn’t have a disability. If anything, disabled students face a whole host discrimination from teachers and administrators that some how feel entitled to put up road blocks and/or be more difficult to the disabled student to “teach them a lesson” as they don’t feel the student looks “disabled” enough to them. If a parent or student won’t go into a deep personal medical explanation with Ms. Nosy, Ms. Nosy feels it’s ok to be an utter A$$ to the student.

A student with a disability might need extra time on a test because they can’t write as fast due to a serious hand shaking problem, hearing difficulty, vision problem, or a whole host of legitimate reasons. Besides, in many upper level stem classes, either you can answer the question or you can’t….extra time won’t help other than with the physical act of reading & writing the answer down.

However, I do recognize there are parents that magically discover ADHD in their child’s junior year of High school just to get extra time on the SAT so kiddo can go to Harvard. But then again, there are parents that pay $1Million for 4 years of “guidance” for college acceptances. There was whole host of parents paying $15K+ for their kid to get SATs taken for them in the admission scandal.
It seems the same parents screaming “unfair” for disabled students getting accommodations are the same parents that have no problem cheating to get their own kid into T-10 universities…..

This is a sneaky way to fix military recruitment. Without Pell Grants and FAFSA, you’re damn skippy kids of low SES and working poor families will need to join the military in order to go to college

When people want everything sent back to the states, I don’t think they understand how incompetent a lot of state agencies really are.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

That is the point.

I pre-paid both kids’ educations in a one-income family (my spouse stayed at home until the kids were in late high school) by living frugally and putting money into a 529 fund. We kept driving old cars that were paid off, and only did a couple vacations during the kids’ entire upbringing. Then they both got a lot of scholarships, so most of the 529 money is going to carry forward for grandchildren. I also don’t spend money on tobacco, cable TV or other streaming services, alcohol, or tattoos and piercings. For entertainment the kids had library cards instead of expensive gaming consoles — which probably explains the large number of scholarships.

Life is mostly about choices like that, but it’s also important to keep in mind that a college degree is not the only path to financial success. Hard work and emotional intelligence are the main drivers. My kids’ friends who got CDL licenses or who work on HVAC systems are making fantastic money right now.

I volunteer at school recruitment tables for one of our high school sports teams, and I am often approached by parents who are literally covered from head to toe in tattoos, who ask it there is funding available to help pay for equipment. I tell them that they already blew the thousands of dollars on tattoos that could have been used for their kids’ proper upbringing, so our sports team may not be the right fit for them; it’s unwise to throw good money after bad.

That’s a good, national public policy too. As the saying goes, “stupid should hurt”.

The amount of credit card debt people take on for dumb stuff blows my mind.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So no more special education, no more FAFSA, no more Pell Grants.

I guess the goal is to keep everyone stupid and poor.

Don't worry, the rich kids can still go to college.

That is the point.

I pre-paid both kids’ educations in a one-income family (my spouse stayed at home until the kids were in late high school) by living frugally and putting money into a 529 fund. We kept driving old cars that were paid off, and only did a couple vacations during the kids’ entire upbringing. Then they both got a lot of scholarships, so most of the 529 money is going to carry forward for grandchildren. I also don’t spend money on tobacco, cable TV or other streaming services, alcohol, or tattoos and piercings. For entertainment the kids had library cards instead of expensive gaming consoles — which probably explains the large number of scholarships.

Life is mostly about choices like that, but it’s also important to keep in mind that a college degree is not the only path to financial success. Hard work and emotional intelligence are the main drivers. My kids’ friends who got CDL licenses or who work on HVAC systems are making fantastic money right now.

I volunteer at school recruitment tables for one of our high school sports teams, and I am often approached by parents who are literally covered from head to toe in tattoos, who ask it there is funding available to help pay for equipment. I tell them that they already blew the thousands of dollars on tattoos that could have been used for their kids’ proper upbringing, so our sports team may not be the right fit for them; it’s unwise to throw good money after bad.

That’s a good, national public policy too. As the saying goes, “stupid should hurt”.