Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 22:13     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who started the term 'trapped' and why? Once again trapped by WHAT? Lack of talent? Size? Maturity? I don't get how a birthday traps anyone


Trapped because they don't get a full club season in 8th grade while their BY peers are playing HS soccer. And trapped because junior year all the BY peers have already been recruited and stopped going to events. The major recruitment happens sophomore year when the trapped kids can't be recruited as they are freshman. College coaches are on record saying they don't bother with junior and senior teams in a showcase when the 10th graders are the next wave and need to be picked. That's why they are "trapped" not because of their size, maturity or skills.


Im trying to understand how this would play out for aug and sept players who would play down a grade. I dont know much about college recruiting at all. What would happen to a 10th grader playing on a team with 9th graders? Or 11th with 10th, etc? Would they also lose out? Or is it not the same if playing with the grade younger somehow?

They wouldn't be playing down. They'd be playing the correct school age. If your kid is September, they've currently been playing kids up to 8 months older and a grade up. With the change your kid probably repeats what ever age group they've been playing and goes from being one of the younger players to one of the older players and playing with their school age group. It's just a change of perspective. If they're good enough to then be asked to play up then they're being asked to play with kids a full year older and a full grade older.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 22:06     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:WhY cAnT mY OcToBeR cHiLd ChEaT tHe SysTyM?!?!?!

WhY CaNt My FeBrUaRy ChIlD CoNtInUe To BeAt Up On LoWeR GrAdEs. It's not cheating it's reorganizing the system
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2024 11:27     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:You can't find a more dysfunctional sport on the planet than anything to do with US soccer.

In this instance it’s not US Soccer that’s caused the issue is Pay to Play and college soccer. If these two things didn’t exist there would be no issues.

Pay to play makes clubs break out as many teams into as many tiers as possible. This allows clubs to maximize the amount of money they can charge parents.

College Soccer creates a limbo league that’s not quite pro but somehow players still get paid in scholarships and nil.

These things don’t exist in other parts of the world. Take them away and SY makes no sense.

It will be interesting to see what happens when NCAA finally blows up.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2024 09:12     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
You can't find a more dysfunctional sport on the planet than anything to do with US soccer.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 16:24     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From CST…”Stay Tuned”…….


Announcement coming any minute now


Or maybe tomorrow! Definitely hold your breath.

Or maybe the day after tomorrow.

Are people so desperate for news that they’re relaying rumors about future to happen rumors?


Sad
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 16:03     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:From CST…”Stay Tuned”…….


Announcement coming any minute now


Or maybe tomorrow! Definitely hold your breath.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 15:14     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
From CST…”Stay Tuned”…….


Announcement coming any minute now
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 14:20     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Announcement coming from US Club soccer today


What is the source for this statement?


College Soccer truth tweet.
"News" coming out later today...

https://x.com/ImCollegeSoccer/status/1850152691248320915
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 14:10     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:Announcement coming from US Club soccer today


What is the source for this statement?
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 13:45     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So US Soccer is going to align to school year instead of birth year for the purposes of college recruiting...

As college sports is imploding and undergoing a massive re-shift under NIL, roster limits, athletes eventually becoming employees.

As college teams rely more on international players and taking older players from the portal.

And to move the system further away from alignment with the international system as the USA struggles with development compared to other nations.

Smh. What idiots...


England seems to do pretty well with development and they aren't on a birth year system............

If you want facts, international players still make up a very small percentage of D1 roster spots, college sports for everything but football and hoops is basically staying the same. You act like Michigan is going to start paying their players pro salaries.

We all get it, you have a Q1/Q2 average kid and they may get dropped from the top team. It sucks for him/her but what a great time to teach him/her that life is not always fair vs teaching him/her to call everyone that disagrees with your biased opinion idiots.

Just a thought.


This is inaccurate. The UK system splits on pathway at U14


Source? Mine is FA which clearly states 8/31 cut off through u18. But you may have a better source than the FA…….

https://www.thefa.com/~/media/Files/TheFAPortal/governance-docs/rules-of-the-association/standard-code-of-rules-for-youth-competitions.ashx

Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 12:49     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So US Soccer is going to align to school year instead of birth year for the purposes of college recruiting...

As college sports is imploding and undergoing a massive re-shift under NIL, roster limits, athletes eventually becoming employees.

As college teams rely more on international players and taking older players from the portal.

And to move the system further away from alignment with the international system as the USA struggles with development compared to other nations.

Smh. What idiots...


England seems to do pretty well with development and they aren't on a birth year system............

If you want facts, international players still make up a very small percentage of D1 roster spots, college sports for everything but football and hoops is basically staying the same. You act like Michigan is going to start paying their players pro salaries.

We all get it, you have a Q1/Q2 average kid and they may get dropped from the top team. It sucks for him/her but what a great time to teach him/her that life is not always fair vs teaching him/her to call everyone that disagrees with your biased opinion idiots.

Just a thought.


This is inaccurate. The UK system splits on pathway at U14
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 12:16     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So US Soccer is going to align to school year instead of birth year for the purposes of college recruiting...

As college sports is imploding and undergoing a massive re-shift under NIL, roster limits, athletes eventually becoming employees.

As college teams rely more on international players and taking older players from the portal.

And to move the system further away from alignment with the international system as the USA struggles with development compared to other nations.

Smh. What idiots...


England seems to do pretty well with development and they aren't on a birth year system............

If you want facts, international players still make up a very small percentage of D1 roster spots, college sports for everything but football and hoops is basically staying the same. You act like Michigan is going to start paying their players pro salaries.

We all get it, you have a Q1/Q2 average kid and they may get dropped from the top team. It sucks for him/her but what a great time to teach him/her that life is not always fair vs teaching him/her to call everyone that disagrees with your biased opinion idiots.

Just a thought.


Are you talking about the women's side? Because I've read that 30% of DI spots for soccer on the men's side are international players. And from my observation, many of them aren't your typical 18 year old freshman. Some have played professionally in Europe (without contracts) and are 21 year old or more freshman.


Higher percentage in mens vs women's for sure. But those numbers might be skewed a bit as they include kids that have been here going to school and not fresh off the plane. Additionally, women D1 soccer also has almost twice as many teams as men and, obviously, Internationals are not as many due to not putting an emphasis on the women's side.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 09:15     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So US Soccer is going to align to school year instead of birth year for the purposes of college recruiting...

As college sports is imploding and undergoing a massive re-shift under NIL, roster limits, athletes eventually becoming employees.

As college teams rely more on international players and taking older players from the portal.

And to move the system further away from alignment with the international system as the USA struggles with development compared to other nations.

Smh. What idiots...


England seems to do pretty well with development and they aren't on a birth year system............

If you want facts, international players still make up a very small percentage of D1 roster spots, college sports for everything but football and hoops is basically staying the same. You act like Michigan is going to start paying their players pro salaries.

We all get it, you have a Q1/Q2 average kid and they may get dropped from the top team. It sucks for him/her but what a great time to teach him/her that life is not always fair vs teaching him/her to call everyone that disagrees with your biased opinion idiots.

Just a thought.


Are you talking about the women's side? Because I've read that 30% of DI spots for soccer on the men's side are international players. And from my observation, many of them aren't your typical 18 year old freshman. Some have played professionally in Europe (without contracts) and are 21 year old or more freshman.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 08:50     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Announcement coming from US Club soccer today
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2024 08:43     Subject: Important Update: US Soccer Birth Year Change
Anonymous wrote:Not PP but what about making a greater impact on a team by getting more touches, more mins and/or ID opportunities, would one or more of those make a good argument?

Honest debate, not trolling feel like that needs to be stated, I’ve been on both sides of this with different kids and honestly my boring answer is- it depends on the kid, their gender and frankly, their individual long term soccer goals


Exactly, and the honest answer, even though it’s the boring one like you said, is it really does just depend on the kid.